In fact, one could argue that Trump has done more in 1 month than Obama did in 8 years.
One could also argue that statements like this are a crock of shit…
As for Hillary.. you are the one that keeps bringing her up.. most of the rest of us are more concerned about right now
I was happy to forget about Hillary, but she then started contemplating running for mayor of NYC. That lasted a week or two and went nowhere… so she can go back in her cave.
I used to laugh at people who were deemed "SJW" but quickly realized that the entire anti-SJW movement was co-opted by racists and alt-righters. They claim to be against modern feminism and BLM, but really they are just against women and black people. It has got to the point were anyone who uses the term "cuck" and "SJW" is likely a terrible human being.
The same can be said for your side.
Your side set a building on fire to prevent "wrong think". You guys gloated that it was set on fire with people in it.
Your side says it's ok to beat the shit out of people even after they are laying, unconscious and bleeding in the street.
It's your side that says "just believe" and to throw men in prison for rape solely on a woman's say so.
It's your side that did $15,000 worth of damage to a frat house based on a complete lie and non of you said sorry or helped pay for the damage.
It's your side that thinks it's ok to set a girl's hair on fire because she doesn't agree with you.
It's ok to pour a bottle of piss on a reporter's head because she asked questions you didn't have answers for.
It's ok for a man to hit a woman for disagreeing with feminism.
It's ok to false flag at every turn to create "hate crimes" that never happened.
Yeah, who's really the bad side?
Before DNA testing was readily available and accurate, 10% of the men who pled guilty to rape were later found to be not-guilty when DNA testing was done years later. They pled guilty in plea bargains to avoid severe prison sentences. I wonder how many "rapes" were consensual sex at the time, but later resulted in a rape complaint out of revenge. Most people have the idea that law enforcement exists to punish the guilty.. That is not true. The purpose for law enforcement is to protect the innocent. Far too many cops take it upon themselves to mete out their own punishments. There is something else that needs to be said about that. Often, there will be a story posted on the internet about gross police brutality and abuse of their powers. If one dares criticize the police online, one takes a big risk of having their accounts terminated. I had TWO Facebook accounts nuked because I criticized the police. Because of that, people don't complain so much. The complainers are silenced. I feel hypocritical, but I no longer comment in public forums about wrongdoings. I also lost another facebook account and a youtube account for pointing out how corrupt and evil Slippery Hillary is.
As for domestic violence.. there is no justification for it EVER - and that's it. Thousands of people around the world are victims… but you want me to "research" stuff that then would justify your enabling of the domestic violence ? nah.. i'll pass.. i would rather be seen as a person who opposes it and wants to actually stop it, instead of not facing up to the fact that it occurs and and justifying with skewed research that makes the perpetrators feel justified in their actions
I wouldn't go that far. I knew a child many years ago that picked a tiny dog up by one leg, breaking it, and laughed for several minutes. The same child had a passion for breaking all sorts of things, and knocking things off the shelves in stores. She was a hellion, and still is but in a different way. When someone is being destructive, a swat on the ass works wonders… but should be a last resort. I see many children getting smacked around for no reason other than for the parent to show whose boss.
I will dig up my comments from months ago.. and have new ones. In fact, I rarely offer my OPINIONS, I stick to facts, which drives people NUTS.
facts tend to have a liberal bias.
The most recent travesty affected me personally. I commented on Democratic Representative Adam Shiff's Facebook page. I chastised him for attacking Trump constantly. I reminded him that during a CAMPAIGN it is fair to attack a CANDIDATE.. but after an election, it is a crime called SEDITION to attack the president of the United States. After the election, politics need to end, so that the process of actual governing can begin.
So, you are saying the entire eight years of the Obama administration, where the entire GOP was attacking Obama, they were guilty of sedition?
And Donald Trump himself, who for eight years attacked the legitimacy of the Obama administration by perpetuating the lie that he was not born in Hawaii is guilty as well?
In other countries, attacking the leader would get one put in prison, or even shot. Even in England which has "freedom of the press" there is an exception.. the press are forbidden from attacking the Queen (and to some degree the other Royals). To do so is a crime. It is ironic that decades ago, there were fairly credible news programs. In fact, believe it or not, CNN used to be the most credible news outlet in the world!
It still is, to people who do not read the fake news of the alt-right.
The term "fake news", by the way, means reporting completely made up propaganda, like that the Clintons are behind a child sex slave ring.
The alt-right, and Trump, misuse the term "Fake News" to mean anyone that criticizes the dictator-in-chief.
Does my comment sound reasonable?
NO, not in the least bit reasonable. You complain about mainstream news, who report the unvarnished truth, because that truth makes Trump look bad. You think the mainstream media should put truth aside and only sing the praises of Trump.
And you do that, while applauding alt-right media that attacked Obama for eight years with pure propaganda.
Talk about censorship!
Private businesses can do whatever they want.
Are you against Capitalism?
I have been banned from numerous conservative websites for simply telling the truth, and I realize it is their right to do so.How did I do for my first political post? :crazy2:
It was a typical conservative parinoid rant.
You are wrong. To begin with, get a spell checker.. it's "paranoid" not "parinoid". As for that "born in Hawaii" topic. I have gone over this before, and liberals turn a blind eye to it. I will briefly re-cap it:
1. Obama did not produce any form of birth certificate until he was already in office 1.5 years - and was forced to.
2. The birth certificate had fields filled in which the checksums on the certificate indicated were not filled in.
3. One of the fields filled in at some recent time listed Obama's race as being African American. The term African American did not exist when Obama was born. That field should have said either "African" or "Black". African American is a politically correct term that was invented decades later.
4. The woman in Hawaii that certified that birth certificate mysteriously died a year later in a plane crash. She was the ONLY person on that plane that died.. the other 20 survived.
5. Regardless of the birth certificate. Obama was not raised in the USA. He never stepped foot into the USA until he was a teenager. He was raised in Indonesia by a devout muslim. Obama's name for all those years was Barry Soetoro. In fact, looking at photos of Barry and the father that adopted him leads some people to speculate that Barry is the biological son of Soetoro.
All of the above are what are known as FACTS.. not opinions. Good day!
Are you triggered because your president is a failure? Either way we win. He gets impeached for being a traitor and colluding with Russia = win. He sticks around loses a war in Syria and North Korea and Iran and causes the economy to collapse = win.
I love being right something deplorables have never and will never experience in their life.
You must live in some parallel universe where everything is opposite.
Trump is doing great. He sent the world a message with that attack on Syria. The attack itself was no big deal. FYI, the Cold War with the Soviet Union ended 25 years ago.. as did communism in that region. Russia is not the enemy anymore.. but is a rival. Frankly, Russia is less of an enemy to the government in power in the USA than the liberals in the USA are! It boggles my mind that you imply that Trump is a traitor.. and yet Obama got a free pass for doing things such as bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia and secretly giving $8 billion to Arab states in his final year in office.. including a blatant payoff to Iran of several hundred million dollars.
It also bothers me that you think that losing a war and having the economy collapse is a WIN. What country do you represent? North Korea? You are sick in the head.
Seth Meyers isn't a liberal show. It's just anti-Trump like all good Americans.
Seth Meyers isn't a liberal show? WOW! Just what DO you consider to be liberal?
Seth Meyers is so liberal that he wears a diaper and sleeps with a pacifier in his mouth. He also enjoys Play-Doh.
HAHAHAHA!!! What reality are you in? Wow.
Until October, we are still under President Obama's budget, any change to the deficit or debt are all thanks to Obama until then.Jobs always grow more in the spring and rapidly right before summer. trumpenfuhrer's policies haven't had time to do anything yet, let alone the fact that none of the numbers aren't all that different than those under Obama. Jobs were already on the rise for the last few years, it's on the same trend, THANKS OBAMA!
If you ever post anything that is correct, I think I will drop dead of a heart attack. I don't expect to be having a heart attack any time soon!
Even without a new BUDGET in place yet, the economy and job growth are already skyrocketing. In fact, the economy was taking a sharp dive in the last couple of days before the election, but when Trump won - the economy instantly started rising and has continued to rise. Just the promise of what Trump's plans to do is resulting in corporations hiring people, investing more, and the country is becoming revitalized. Obama accomplished virtually NOTHING in 8 years. In fact, one could argue that Trump has done more in 1 month than Obama did in 8 years.
I know you will continue to take a piss on Trump, and defend your heros Obama and Hillary. Go ahead and knock yourself out. You are only making a fool of yourself. As time goes on.. the memories of Hillary and Obama will fade away like a ripe fart in the wind.
Jimmy Carter loves Obama… for one reason.. now Jimmy is no longer the worst president ever.
@beep:
Face it, we thought 45 was crazy LONG before the 3rd debate.
Well that's the understatement of the century. Most people have known he's an unhinged nutjob since the last millennia.
It was further solidified after 9/11 when he gloated that he had the tallest tower in New York again.
For every faus pax that Trump has made.. Hillary has made 100.
Let's forget that the ad has Kendall Jenner (wish that whole lot would go away).
SJWs, especially BLM, lost their shit because they claim that the new Pepsi ad is too police friendly.
SJWs win.
Pepsi pulls the ad and apologizes to BLM.
Fucking hell, humanity deserves to be wiped out.
BTW, I'm surprised feminists aren't claiming they are the ones who actually won since feminism cures all ills.
SJW=Social Justice Warrior
BLM=Black Lives Matter
If that ad was realistic, the cop would think that can was a hand grenade, and blow her head off.
BLM is self-defeating, because by defining themselves by race, they are profiling and stereotyping themselves - which is contrary to their goals. So is the phrase "Black is Beautiful". They are the equivalent as saying "White Power" "White Supremacy" "White is Right", etc. White people can't say anything without being called out on being racist… yet black people get a free pass and can say anything they like.
Imagine if Trump ever said anything like this.... ! No longer available
By the way, the Kardashians are now going to have an ANIMATED cartoon show! EEEK!
Frankly, the job of being president is impossible. The way that government is set up, it is ineffective at governing. The only times that things get done are during periods of extreme crises, such as wars. That is terrible!
Anyway.. There seems to be no letup in the number of Trump haters, even though the election has been decided.
While one might not like Trump, he is worlds better than Hillary who would have gotten us into a war with Russia that both sides would lose.
Anybody who would vote for Hillary instead of Trump is just ignorant of the facts. Hillary is pretty much.. a monster.
Hate Trump all you want, but consider that someone has to be president. Hillary is a "no go".
I meant to reply to brianbozo's comment, but he got so off-topic that I started a new topic to keep things clear.
First of all, about General Flynn "resigning". It is unclear whether he resigned or was fired. If he had not resigned he would have been fired by Trump. The reason was not that Flynn did anything wrong regarding Russia, but Flynn lied to vice-president Pence. That is too much of a liability to worry about. So.. it was "bye Felicia" for Flynn. I'm not thrilled with Sessions nor Gorsuch either.
Regarding Hillary Clinton as being a criminal. Slippery Hillary is the most hated woman in the world. Yes, there are a lot of people who love her, but she is without a doubt the most hated woman. She's had a lifetime of corruption in which she has skillfully slipped through the cracks much like her husband "Slick Willie". However, if I ever committed a major crime, I would love to have Hillary as my lawyer because she is an expert at evading justice.
Anybody who blindly follows any party line faithfully is a fool.
While I tend to be "republican", I can point out one recent major departure from being conservative.
In Canada, they suffered through 9 years of the extremely corrupt, annoying, conservative Stephen Harper.
I am aware that people complain that liberal Justin Trudeau has done nothing but work for legalizing recreational marijuana and hinted at legalizing heroin as well. Justin can do anything he wants, or not do anything at all.. and he is STILL a massive improvement over conservative Stephen Harper.
In fact, there is something ironic about Stephen Harper being deposed as the prime minister of Canada. If Harper had won, the backlash to having that conservative piece of garbage in power probably would have resulted in Slippery Hillary winning the U.S. election. Instead, Canada got sexy, smiling Justin Trudeau who hasn't really done anything good and not lived up to expectations, but hasn't done anything terribly bad either. For those who don't know about how sleazy and corrupt the previous PM Harper was.. just months before the Canadian election, Harper passed legislation giving away a ton of money in monthly payments to families to buy their votes. There is no way in the world that Harper would have done that other than the fact that the election was approaching and he wanted votes. There is a chance that Harper may still wind up in jail about something I won't even get into here.
Interesting footnote.. the 3rd party candidate in the Canadian election was Thomas Mulcair of the New Democratic Party. He was a Canadian version of Bernie Sanders. It would have been interesting to see what Mulcair would have done. Mulcair would have won, but took a dive in popularity when he went overboard defending the rights of Muslims. Canada LIKES muslims.. but they don't LOVE them.
He is an embarrassment to his country. His debunked claims at wiretapping forced the US to apologize to the UK for dragging their agency into that mess.
His latest moves to undermine climate change controls in the US will not only FAIL to bring new jobs to the outdated coal industry- they will endanger the rest of the planet because his refusal to believe in scientific fact will not and does not change the outcome of his actions-which is to contribute to global warming.
Where do you get this garbage from? You must watch a lot of CNN.
His wiretapping claims have not been debunked, in fact, every few days - including today - more comes out to support Trump's claims. Also, nobody apologized to the UK.. nor do they need to. Every major country spies on every other major country.. even if they are allies. The problem is when one's OWN country spies on it's own citizens - which is illegal, and it what Trump complained about.
The "outdated" coal industry is far from being outdated.. and clean coal is now doing quite well. I can actually share something about that. Many years ago… while moving south from New York, and driving through New Jersey, there were massive chimneys from factories billowing clouds of black smoke. They have a lot of industry in that area, and it smelled so bad that one had to raise the windows, and hold their nose while driving past them. A few years ago, I went through the same areas, and the factories now spew out billowing white clouds which are steam vapor, and the windows can be opened.
Also.. Trump is reversing the obstruction of Obama - and completing the Keystone project which not only benefits the USA, but brings in $16 billion in annual revenue to Canada. Can you say "O Canada!"
With the addition of the Keystone oil pipeline, fracking, ethanol, and clean coal.. the USA is no longer a fossil fuel importer but an exporter. It's nice to stop financing terrorist countries with mega billions of dollars for their oil anymore. It's also nice to not endanger the oceans with tankers full of crude oil.
You can laugh all you like, but what you said is false. The liberal attacks didn't start yesterday, last week, nor last month. They started immediately after Trump won the election and have not let up. So that blows half your argument.
Presidential candidates are not required to produce their tax returns. Three modern presidents did not. Trump first said he would release his tax returns after his audit was over. Later he said he would release his tax returns IF Hillary produced the 30,000 emails that she illegally deleted AFTER being ordered to turn them over. She never did. Trump later said he would never release his tax returns. In fact, last week, when one year of his tax returns in which it was assumed that he paid no taxes was revealed on prime time TV… it turned out that he paid $35 million in taxes that year. That's a lot of tax! Also, Trump is the first modern president who made his money in business rather than political donations. It would be crazy for a business man to reveal his financial information to his competitors. So, there goes the other half of your argument.Oh, one other thing... while bickering about Trump not volunteering his tax returns.. how about Obama.. who didn't produce a birth certificate until 1.5 years AFTER being elected president? How is that possible? And the certificate he produced is questionable, but that is another topic.
What exactly did I say that was false? The fact that there's enough proof of questionable ties to Russia to warrant an investigation? The fact that even members of his own party recognize the need for independent investigation?
And yes, they started immediately after the election because there was already proof of Russian meddling- and why should it let up? The investigation isn't done yet. So nothing you said "blows half my argument" at all. :laugh:
And as for the tax returns- why does a segment of Trump supporters such as yourself keep holding up Clinton and Obama like human shields to use their supposed faults and failings to excuse Trump? SO WHAT if Hillary never released her emails or Obama took a year and a half to release his birth certificate? Why the heck do they need to be connected at all? It's like saying I refuse to eat apples because my brother isn't eating his vegetables. Ludicrous!
Nothing that Obama or Clinton may or may not have done changes the fact that Trump is the first candidate in 40 years to refuse to release his returns. Why? Maybe because it could expose his ties to Russia for one. Can you counter that? No you can't but you could if the tax returns were available.
Oh- and the businessman defense? Please- that went out the window once he decided to run for PUBLIC OFFICE. He's a CIVIL SERVANT now, NOT a businessman. He was required by law to give up all his ties to his businesses the minute he accepted the mantle of President. So again, nothing you have stated has done anything to change or answer the argument I made earlier. Try harder, and be more aware. :blind:
It's amazing that everything you say is wrong. It is asinine to start assuming things such as any ties to Russia. There are no signs of that, and even if there was.. so what? Communism in Russia and the USSR ended roughly 22 years ago. It's far better to have Russia as a friend than an enemy. Speaking of ties to Russia… as Secretary of State, Hillary sold 20% of the USA's stockpile of uranium to Russia for her own benefit. If Russia ever nukes some country, they can thank Hillary for that.
Not being a politician is a big part of why Trump was elected president. He's the first president in modern times that is not a political serpent. Even the republican party fought very hard to prevent Trump from becoming president. It's refreshing to have a president who is not a puppet of a political party.
I love how you throw out this talk of civil war. Clearly, the biggest civil war right now is WITHIN the Republican party itself.
Given that they are in control of ALL 3 branches of government, and Trump "The Closer" who promised to repeal and replace Obamacare as one of his big moves when in office, FAILED because of conflict and infighting within the party- it's clear where the civil war is happening. You want to know who his adversaries are who are undermining him- it's his own hubris, and his fellow Republicans.
Oh- and I think the correct statement is: screw party loyalty- our first duty is to our country, not to some egotistic narcissist who doesn't know how to pass legislation despite claiming to be an expert negotiator. Your loyalty, for better or worse, should be to your country and not to your party or president.
Once again, you are wrong.
While there are divisions in the republican party, it is the democrats who are flagrantly abusing party loyalty. Not one of them supported any changes to Osamacare. That is sad, because Obamacare is failing, and is doomed to end in about a year. It's already extremely expensive, and offers very little in the way of healthcare. Trump's idea is to reduce healthcare costs to make insurance affordable.. and allow people to purchase it if they want it. Obama's idea was to let the costs spin out of control, and FORCE everybody to purchase healthcare - and if they didn't suffer severe financial penalties. A healthy non-smoker in their 20's working for minimum wage might not want to pay for healthcare.. which subsidizes the healthcare of someone who has existing medical needs.
Trump will get his affordable care act passed, it will just take a bit longer than anticipated. He will have his plan in place in a shorter amount of time than it took Obama to ram Obamacare through Congress in a one-party vote.
Who cares about your backwards USA bullshit? I suggest you keep it to yourself or share it during your local bible bashers meeting.
You are just upset because when Angela Merkel tried kissing up to Trump, he refused to shake her hand or even look at her. Trump did tell her that Germany needs to stop being a deadbeat nation and pay their share for NATO. Before Merkel became dictator 15 years ago, Germany was a major NATO ally, now look at them.
Throughout history, by far the most brutal wars have been civil wars (within one's own country). In fact, almost all assassinations have been perpetrated by citizens of the victim's own country.
Right now, we have a virtual political civil war going on. Trump's adversaries are happy to undermine and cripple the USA just so they can attack Trump. It's sort of the opposite of wedding vows where one is supposed to be loyal for better or worse, etc. The attitude of Trump's foes is "screw the country, let's resist and attack Trump".
Also, Trump is not a conservative, and really not even a republican. The conservatives and some republicans have been bitterly complaining that Trump is not conservative enough for the past 2 years.
Imagine if the president was as conservative as Obama was liberal. THAT would shake things up.
@beep:
When the 'president' himself is undermining the country, I think it is one's patriotic duty to scream about it (at the very least). Then again, replying to this thread is little better than talking to a wall.
I agree.. and yet Obama got away with undermining the country for eight years!
So- you're saying that the calls to investigate him are because people refuse to accept the election results? I'm sorry but that's a non sequitur. Specially when even members of his party have begun to voice their own support for investigating his ties to Russia.
There's more than enough evidence to warrant investigating him without it just being politically motivated. If we followed your flawed line of reasoning- then no one would ever be able to legitimately investigate any of his suspicious activities and ties because he'd just hide behind the defense of it being politically motivated and a "refusal to accept election results". I'm sorry but no, it doesn't work like that.
Besides, a lot of the controversy also comes from his own actions- he promised to release his tax returns after the elections and yet he still refuses to be transparent about it. If he's really got nothing to hide, and all the other presidential candidates have shown their own tax returns, then at the very least he should do the same and shut down all the suspicion. In this sense, all the calls for resistance exist because he brought it on himself. :laugh:
You can laugh all you like, but what you said is false. The liberal attacks didn't start yesterday, last week, nor last month. They started immediately after Trump won the election and have not let up. So that blows half your argument.
Presidential candidates are not required to produce their tax returns. Three modern presidents did not. Trump first said he would release his tax returns after his audit was over. Later he said he would release his tax returns IF Hillary produced the 30,000 emails that she illegally deleted AFTER being ordered to turn them over. She never did. Trump later said he would never release his tax returns. In fact, last week, when one year of his tax returns in which it was assumed that he paid no taxes was revealed on prime time TV… it turned out that he paid $35 million in taxes that year. That's a lot of tax! Also, Trump is the first modern president who made his money in business rather than political donations. It would be crazy for a business man to reveal his financial information to his competitors. So, there goes the other half of your argument.
Oh, one other thing... while bickering about Trump not volunteering his tax returns.. how about Obama.. who didn't produce a birth certificate until 1.5 years AFTER being elected president? How is that possible? And the certificate he produced is questionable, but that is another topic.
@beep:
Face it, we thought 45 was crazy LONG before the 3rd debate. As it is, he just keeps proving (over and over and over) that we were correct. His 'administration' is now rife with nepotism and even Republicans want his Russia ties investigated (excluding Nunes who appears to be a WH flunkie). Trump is being investigated, not for political reasons, but for reasons so fucking obvious that his own party wants them looked into. He is dragging the GOP into a, dare I say it, swamp.
Well, first of all, to become president requires someone to be crazy.
But while people typically liked or disliked Trump.. they either loved or hated Hillary. Hillary's obsession with power and pandering to whomever will benefit her spans her lifetime.
It's not so much that Trump won the election.. but rather Hillary LOST the election. Many people who would normally vote democrat such as blacks decided to stay home and not vote because of such things as Hillary's deep devotion to former KKK leader Senator Robert Byrd. Many other people who would have stayed home decided to vote for Trump because they hated Hillary so much.
I would even suggest that Hillary is the ONLY democrat that Trump could have defeated. Sanders would have been the democratic candidate had the head of the DNC Wasserman not worked with Hillary's campaign to steal the candidacy from him.
