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    • ManHandler
      ManHandler last edited by

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/florida-judges-declare-mask-mandate-unconstitutional/

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      • raphjd
        raphjd Forum Administrator @ManHandler last edited by

        @manhandler

        That's good news, i hope more cases happen.

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        • bi4smooth
          bi4smooth @raphjd last edited by

          @raphjd said in FL Judge declares masks unconstitutional.:

          @manhandler

          That's good news, i hope more cases happen.

          Dude - this is FLORIDA

          Have you not paid any attention to the past 40-years of lunacy coming from Florida? Have you never rolled your eyes when you heard a news story started with "A Florida Man"?

          I swear, we (I live here, in Florida) looked at California (at the time, known as "the land of fruits and nuts") and thought: we can be crazier than that!

          We even make fun of ourselves: in many local news stations here there is a regular segment called "What the Florida?" just for highlighting the twilight-zone-inspired stories from our wacked-out State.

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          • raphjd
            raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth last edited by

            @bi4smooth

            This is what your "conservative libertarianism" demands;

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            • ManHandler
              ManHandler @bi4smooth last edited by

              @bi4smooth When the N95 mask says on the label, "does not protect from Covid," why does that make people who don't want to wear it crazy?

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                bi4smooth @ManHandler last edited by

                @manhandler said in FL Judge declares masks unconstitutional.:

                @bi4smooth When the N95 mask says on the label, "does not protect from Covid," why does that make people who don't want to wear it crazy?

                This argument is now a moot-point. In most areas of the US, you can choose to ditch the mask. If you haven't been vaccinated, you just have to lie.

                No worries... it's mostly Trumpites who have declined to get the vaccine (the one Trump championed!).. so, you're the ones not protected.... thus, you'll be ones to die.

                You can lead a horse to water...

                Yes, that is a morbid thought - I've had a few of those this morning! 🙂 But, morbid or not, it's true!

                I'd rather be vaccinated (and improve upon my magnetic personality - literally) than be unvaccinated and dead. Truth is, there's no guarantee of either:

                • I have been vaccinated, and I didn't become magnetic (my disappointment is palpable)
                • You can stay unvaccinated and survive (I won't mention any disappointment there - that would be crude and cruel)

                It's all about "playing the odds" at this point... and, IMHO, the survival odds favor the vaccinated! 🙂

                BTW: This mRNA vaccine technology will soon be unleashed on other diseases - it was created in research for a potential HIV vaccine. That may come soon, but my reading suggests that the next mRNA vaccines may be a "permanent, unified" Flu vaccine (no more getting a yearly Flu shot that may, or may-not, be effective depending on what variant in China gets a better foothold each season!)

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                • raphjd
                  raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth last edited by

                  @bi4smooth

                  Are you referring to the vaccine that Trump pushed, but Honest Joe, Camel Toe, Pelosi, and countless of your liberal comrades said was bad for you and they would refuse to take it?!

                  Liberals spent months slagging off the vaccine, because of Trump, but now that Honest Joe is in office, they have done a complete 180 and are now raving fanatics about it.

                  Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, and many others have admitted that masks and vaccines are essentially a religion. Rachel Maddow said that she is gonna have to change her mindset because people not wearing masks are just evil Trump supporters, but fully vaccinated liberals. Joy Reid said that she still wears her mask because it's "tribal" and not about C-19.

                  C-19 is a corona virus, just like the common cold and flu. It has a low morbidity rate.

                  As the liberal that you are, it's no surprise that you fantasize about Trump supporters dying.

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                  • ManHandler
                    ManHandler @bi4smooth last edited by

                    @bi4smooth

                    And Covid Vaccines are now the deadliest vaccine in human history.

                    https://banned.video/watch?id=60d26d34ec813220f50e5ec7

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                    • bi4smooth
                      bi4smooth @ManHandler last edited by

                      @manhandler said in FL Judge declares masks unconstitutional.:

                      @bi4smooth

                      And Covid Vaccines are now the deadliest vaccine in human history.

                      https://banned.video/watch?id=60d26d34ec813220f50e5ec7

                      And the Chicken-Pox vaccine causes Autism...
                      You go boy!

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                        hubrys last edited by

                        I looked up the actual case cited by the linked article, Green v. Alachua Cty., 2021 Fla. App. LEXIS 8634, on LexisNexis.

                        First, the original thread headline is misleading. The court did not find that mask mandates are unconstitutional based on the United States' Constitution. It was analyzing the law under Florida's Constitution, which has a very broad "Right of Privacy" provision, Fla. Const. Art. I, Section 23.

                        Second, the case doesn't actual create the state of the law that the article assumes. The case was heard by a three panel appellate court. It had two justices agreeing to the result, but with different reasonings, and one dissenting justice. Of the two justices agreeing upon results, each agreed to the other's opinion as a concurrence. This means that the "opinion" of the court will (by the rules of stare decisis) mean the case will be interpreted based on whichever concurring opinion has the least effect on the already established law. Meaning, the crazy ass judge that wrote the portions quoted in the original article isn't going to be the opinion followed by the lower courts.

                        Interestingly, if we are to accept the crazy judge's legal theory, then he would see all public decency laws struck down as violative of Florida's Constitution. Forcing people to wear clothing in public would violate his interpretation of Article I of Florida's Constitution. I fully expect that this case will either be appealed en banc (making all of the justices on the appellate court hear the case again, not just the three justice panel) or will go up to a higher court since it has already been certified up since it conflicts with other Florida appellate districts' interpretation of the law.

                        I know that's a boring rundown, and most won't read it, so if you take nothing away, take away this: you anti-mask loonies still haven't scored a win here.

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                        • ManHandler
                          ManHandler @hubrys last edited by

                          @hubrys There is no evidence that masks work. In fact, there is evidence to the contrary. There are people who have gotten bacterial pneumonia and other infections from breathing in their own CO2 and the same germs that their body is trying to expel. And during the Spanish Flu, many people died from mask wearing. The problem is that it doesn't fit into your belief system.

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                          • raphjd
                            raphjd Forum Administrator @hubrys last edited by

                            @hubrys

                            You don't like the ruling, so it's a "crazy judge".

                            Also, judges routinely make law from the bench.

                            It's like how DACA, an executive order by Obama, was made LAW by a court ruling and not by lawmakers.

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