Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens
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RoyalCrown89
Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.
Read the bit I bolded.
Now go back and read my previous comment again.
Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.
He still to this day wants them dead, knowing now that they have been exonerated. Once again, where is the evidence showing him walking back his recent (2015-2016) statements? He wants innocent men dead; and once again, that's indefensible.
Not my argument.
Re-read what I said.
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Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.
I don't read every post. Never have, never will.
Unless, Joker wants to pay me. :cool2:
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Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.
I don't read every post. Never have, never will.
Unless, Joker wants to pay me. :cool2:
raphjd, thoughtful people read the posts around their own remarks, so they can make the most impactful contributions, and I believe you are thoughtful in this manner.
So, I find the claim that you didn't take initial note of the offensive post in this thread – right above yours, with objectionable content IN CAPS -- very hard to reconcile. Instead, the post was allowed to linger, although it was pointed out by others further down the page, as well.
(At least the very overdue Mute was finally, finally handed out, cheers.)
Imho, the ability to "not see" these offensive posts -- and the common, extended waiting periods for corrective actions -- put the Board in a bad light. These are ongoing issues that diminish the likelihood of a rebound in active posters here in Politics & Debate.
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GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.
I said earlier in this thread that we needed to pick our battles. This might be one worth fighting, as well as the statements that follow.
Looks like a win for those who want decency on this board :cheers:
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RoyalCrown89
Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.
Read the bit I bolded.
Now go back and read my previous comment again.
Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.
He still to this day wants them dead, knowing now that they have been exonerated. Once again, where is the evidence showing him walking back his recent (2015-2016) statements? He wants innocent men dead; and once again, that's indefensible.
Not my argument.
Re-read what I said.
I understand that you are defending his right to call for their deaths prior to them being exonerated. I never said EVERYONE should condemn him for holding that belief because the five did initially confess. I said that I personally hold him responsible for his words before AND after, but that I understood those who defend him for his words prior to the five men being exonerated. All I'm simply saying is that his words and actions AFTER the five were exonerated are indefensible. Thank you for at least remaining civil with me.
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I agree with you on AFTER, which is why I won't argue that point.
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I'm glad the Central Park Five were able to receive some compensation from NYC, however, it won't make up for their years of wrongful imprisonment.
#45, even after the men were exonerated, still presumes they are guilty even with no evidence, just assumptions. His supporters on this board are quick to come to his defense, yet provide no factual evidence, just their own assumptions (and possibly racial prejudices).
To deny their fact of exoneration is the same as denying Obama's birth certificate which, ironically, #45 accepts.
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I'm glad the Central Park Five were able to receive some compensation from NYC, however, it won't make up for their years of wrongful imprisonment.
#45, even after the men were exonerated, still presumes they are guilty even with no evidence, just assumptions. His supporters on this board are quick to come to his defense, yet provide no factual evidence, just their own assumptions (and possibly racial prejudices).
To deny their fact of exoneration is the same as denying Obama's birth certificate which, ironically, #45 accepts.
And that's one of the reasons why I made the thread, to show his pattern. He used the racist Obama birth certificate mess to help build his base of voters for years and now he's abandoned it because he doesn't need it anymore. Meanwhile, his supporters still believe–-without a shred of evidence---that President Obama was not born in America and that he is a Muslim. If #45 has some evidence to back up his statements about the Central Park Five AFTER they were exonerated, then he should provide it. Otherwise, he looks like a disgusting vile racist calling for the deaths of five exonerated black men who lost years of their lives for something they did not do.
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Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.
I don't read every post. Never have, never will.
Unless, Joker wants to pay me. :cool2:
;D
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This recent situation of our president endorsing the KKK and other white supremacist groups put this thread directly into context, now doesn't it? This is why our bigoted president still to this day calls for the deaths of 5 innocent black men who have been exonerated of any wrongdoing. It also proves that it's not just Steve Bannon and others who pushed the president towards embracing white supremacists; he's been a white supremacists and has argued for the deaths of innocent black men far before he ran for president.
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By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them. That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.
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By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them. That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.
"Also" my foot. He claimed there were good people on both sides. There are no good white supremacists or KKK members, never have been and never will be. He endorsed white supremacy on LIVE TV Tuesday and has been endorsing white nationalism since before he ran for president. It wasn't both sides that ran over and murdered a woman, only one side did that. And please, spare us all the deflection of bringing up BLM and other irrelevant topics to this discussion because BLM didn't run that woman over either. A white supremacist did. And he did it in the name of our president just like David Duke and the rest of the white supremacists marched in the name of this president. The time for deflection has run out and the reality is sinking in, which is why Bannon has now been kicked out of the White House.
This recent horrific situation and the president's approval of it directly ties in with him still to this day wanting five innocent black men DEAD.
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By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them. That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.
"Also" my foot. He claimed there were good people on both sides. There are no good white supremacists or KKK members, never have been and never will be.
Just keep on making up fake news.. you aren't fooling anybody that matters.
By the way.. there are plenty of good white supremacists and KKK members. Not for being white supremacists or KKK members, but for their other contributions.
Here's a short list:
Charles Lindbergh, George Washington, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Walt Disney, Henry Ford, Tiger Woods, etc. -
By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them. That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.
;D
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So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?
You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions. It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.
There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.
I hate racists, they suck. HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.
Watch Tucker Carlson. Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.
You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months. That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.
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So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?
You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions. It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.
There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.
I hate racists, they suck. HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.
Watch Tucker Carlson. Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.
You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months. That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.
I don't hate anyone based upon their race.. however.. I do hate them for their behavior. I have certain EXPECTATIONS of people based upon several factors such as gender, race, age, social standing, etc. A couple of examples.. I have not had problems with muslim MALES, but the females seem to think they are elite goddesses or something.. and quite rude. I don't get along with them. I've had several instances with hispanic males where they tried to intimidate me and threatened to kill me. They seemed to think that I would back down, and were infuriated when I did not. I've noticed that black males are fairly non-confrontational as compared to hispanic ones. They seem afraid to cross the violence line for fear of what punishment they will get. I don't hold back at all with white people, so confrontations with them never build up with me.. ALTHOUGH.. I have found that middle aged women think they can boss me around and get away with it. They are quite mistaken. I think a lot of this has to do with what people think they can get away with.
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Only leftists call me a racist, Nazi and whatnot.
People on the right, regardless of race, never do.
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So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?
You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions. It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.
There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.
I hate racists, they suck. HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.
Watch Tucker Carlson. Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.
You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months. That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.
You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.
Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.
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So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?
You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions. It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.
There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.
I hate racists, they suck. HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.
Watch Tucker Carlson. Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.
You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months. That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.
You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.
Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.
I'm not sure who you are referring to as the "five innocent black men". To begin with, it is impossible to prove someone to be innocent. They can be found "not guilty" or "acquitted" but not "innocent". I think you might be referring to the central park incident. Just because their DNA was not found in the woman's cooch doesn't mean they didn't rape her and certainly doesn't mean they didn't beat the shit out of her. If that is whom you are referring to, that is a very poor example.
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So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?
You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions. It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.
There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.
I hate racists, they suck. HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.
Watch Tucker Carlson. Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.
You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months. That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.
You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.
Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.
I'm not sure who you are referring to as the "five innocent black men". To begin with, it is impossible to prove someone to be innocent. They can be found "not guilty" or "acquitted" but not "innocent". I think you might be referring to the central park incident. Just because their DNA was not found in the woman's cooch doesn't mean they didn't rape her and certainly doesn't mean they didn't beat the shit out of her. If that is whom you are referring to, that is a very poor example.
You know I'm referencing the Central Park 5 because that's what this thread is about and has been about since I began it over a month ago. The murderer who confessed acted alone and that has been proven beyond a doubt now. The five who were charged and coerced into admitting guilt never came into contact with the woman, which was proven and why they were awarded the money following years of court hearings where it was proven that they never came into contact with her. Yes, they are innocent and they were exonerated. Our president is still calling for their deaths and has not walked it back and that is indefensible. It is disgusting and against how our justice system works.
