Mexican man ‘kills himself minutes after being deported from US’
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Nobody arrived here, in the United States in 1492. People should be judged in the context of their own times. Most native Americans were unfortunately killed by disease, diseases from the new world were also spread to Europe at the same time. Christopher Columbus himself succumbed to syphilis. The lack of any scientific understanding of the diseases on both sides of the Atlantic unfortunately enable this suffering. Don't forget, the Europeans built their presence resistance to many of these diseases during the black plagues, when their population was decimated multiple times. The settlers who originally arrived in the United States were in territory claimed by the British crown and seeking greater freedoms and opportunities than they did at home. They did so with charters from the crown and legally (internationally during the time period) emigrated to the what became the colonies and later the United States.
"People should be judged in the context of their own times" is the biggest cop out EVER! Seriously? There was no atonement for the downright genocide and brutality committed by those savages who immorally came to this land and claimed it as their own. No atonement whatsoever. The descendants of that trash have no right to do what they are currently doing. This land is your land, right? You just don't know what Pandora's box has been opened in this country by electing that orange piece of crap as president and letting him put a white nationalist in charge of things in the White House. It's about to get very, very real here in terms of protesting and resistance. This has been a long time coming.
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"I'm really good at killing people." - Komrad Obama
He was referring to killing the leaders of terrorist groups using drones, do you like terrorists or something? Context matters…
The alternatives would be either do nothing, or send ground troops in. Do you disagree with the decision that was made?
Also, what does that even have to do with the thread? You do know that Obama isn't the president anymore right? You did catch that news I hope...
Edit: My "You Saw Stupid Memes on Facebook Radar" is going off. Tip: That's not a very good way to get your information...
Also, Trump tried a raid in Yemen, that went really well…
This has absolutely nothing to do with President Obama, but you gotta remember, they used their hatred of him to unify their base so they still think bringing him up will help them win an argument when in reality it just shows how weak they are. They will align themselves with al Qaeda, ISIS, Russians, North Koreans, etc. if it means they get to be against the one and only black president they hate so much.
Dislike of Obama can only be about his race. After all, he was completely perfect in every way, racists are just to evil to see that.
Then again, lot of blacks scream RACIST/RACISM at everything. They even hate blacks who don't see everything as racist. Even the absence of any evidence of racism means nothing to these people, they will make it up and scream it from the roof tops hoping others will latch on to it too.
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Why do liberals support illegals so fucking much?!
Why don't they support the people who went the legal route and got punished for it by being forced out because of another amnesty for illegals? This is why I now live in the UK.
Why are liberals silent on how Mexico treats illegals in their country?
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This has absolutely nothing to do with President Obama, but you gotta remember, they used their hatred of him to unify their base so they still think bringing him up will help them win an argument when in reality it just shows how weak they are. They will align themselves with al Qaeda, ISIS, Russians, North Koreans, etc. if it means they get to be against the one and only black president they hate so much.
You just said on another thread that you would rather have Grace Mugabe in the presidency than Trump. You just proved, by your own account, that liberals are the ones who tend to align themselves with the most evil people in the world to be against the president they hate so much.
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Why do liberals support illegals so fucking much?!
Why don't they support the people who went the legal route and got punished for it by being forced out because of another amnesty for illegals? This is why I now live in the UK.
Why are liberals silent on how Mexico treats illegals in their country?
Because they dismiss any fact that doesn't fit their narrative.
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What immigrants arrived in what became the United States in 1492????? I know about the Mayflower and Jamestown, but both were significantly later.
RE: The most dangerous immigrants arrived here in 1492.
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Who arrived in what became the United States in 1492????? I know about the Mayflower and Jamestown, but both were significantly later.
The Native Americans were obviously here before 1492 … How could anybody possibly know that a native American didn't travel from Canada or Mexico to what would become the United States in 1492… Reread what you wrote...
Are you Jesus? Were you there dude?
If that's not what you were trying to say, then what are you talking about?.
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Nobody arrived here, in the United States in 1492. People should be judged in the context of their own times. Most native Americans were unfortunately killed by disease, diseases from the new world were also spread to Europe at the same time. Christopher Columbus himself succumbed to syphilis. The lack of any scientific understanding of the diseases on both sides of the Atlantic unfortunately enable this suffering. Don't forget, the Europeans built their presence resistance to many of these diseases during the black plagues, when their population was decimated multiple times. The settlers who originally arrived in the United States were in territory claimed by the British crown and seeking greater freedoms and opportunities than they did at home. They did so with charters from the crown and legally (internationally during the time period) emigrated to the what became the colonies and later the United States.
"People should be judged in the context of their own times" is the biggest cop out EVER! Seriously? There was no atonement for the downright genocide and brutality committed by those savages who immorally came to this land and claimed it as their own. No atonement whatsoever. The descendants of that trash have no right to do what they are currently doing. This land is your land, right? You just don't know what Pandora's box has been opened in this country by electing that orange piece of crap as president and letting him put a white nationalist in charge of things in the White House. It's about to get very, very real here in terms of protesting and resistance. This has been a long time coming.
Absolutely an idiotic argument. The Americas would not have remained isolated for long. Any contact with outsiders, whether it be Europeans, Africans, Asians, etc would have caused the same number of people killed due to disease. The people who were born in this country have EVERY RIGHT TO BE HERE. The people who came before us settled and created the United States into the greatest country in modern times. We have absolutely made many mistakes, but I challenge you to name one country who has contributed as much to humanity as we have.
What the F does any of this have to do w/ the election, you're all over the place.
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Who arrived in what became the United States in 1492????? I know about the Mayflower and Jamestown, but both were significantly later.
The Native Americans were obviously here before 1492 … Reread what you wrote...
It was in response to this:
Quote from: : cocksukker on Today at 05:20:39 am
The most dangerous immigrants arrived here in 1492.Of course the Native Americans were here thousands of years before.
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Why do liberals support illegals so fucking much?!
Why don't they support the people who went the legal route and got punished for it by being forced out because of another amnesty for illegals? This is why I now live in the UK.
Why are liberals silent on how Mexico treats illegals in their country?
You live in the UK now. Okay, so you are a full blown hypocrite. I figured as much. So you're whining about things that don't even occur in the country you live in. So as the White House burns, you just fan the flames. Nice…
You still get US news/media? You know it's a fucking circus correct? We found out yesterday that Scott Pruitt is 100% completely owned by oil companies. Great Pick… Oh and Reince Priebus was trying to get James Comey to lie to the media, which got leaked to the media. Every day is leaks and Trump lies. The only one on Trump's team that has some how avoided a scandal is Pence. I had this false hope that Trump was just behaving the way he was behaving to appeal to the voters. Nope, he's a fucking idiot, who I guarantee will be remembered as being one of the worst presidents in US history.
He's been president for a month and he's spent more time golfing than reading intel reports. Dude, America is so fucking screwed it's not even funny…
Edit: Oh yeah and it's starting to look like were going to Syria. So Iraq War #3: Iraq's Neighbor Edition. Awesome…
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I challenge you to name one country who has contributed as much to humanity as we have.
I suggest you open an history book on medicine and more specifically on pharmacy….....
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The most dangerous immigrants arrived here in 1492.
Thank you! The real Native Americans who were slaughtered like cattle by those murderous white immigrants that immorally came here can attest to that fact. Soulless murderers, and now their descendants want to claim this land like it was rightfully and justly acquired. Sounds like I hear the chickens coming home to roost. How much longer do we have to put up with these soulless monsters?
Nobody arrived here, in the United States in 1492. People should be judged in the context of their own times. Most native Americans were unfortunately killed by disease, diseases from the new world were also spread to Europe at the same time. Christopher Columbus himself succumbed to syphilis. The lack of any scientific understanding of the diseases on both sides of the Atlantic unfortunately enable this suffering. Don't forget, the Europeans built their presence resistance to many of these diseases during the black plagues, when their population was decimated multiple times. The settlers who originally arrived in the United States were in territory claimed by the British crown and seeking greater freedoms and opportunities than they did at home. They did so with charters from the crown and legally (internationally during the time period) emigrated to the what became the colonies and later the United States.
"People should be judged in the context of their own times" is the biggest cop out EVER! Seriously? There was no atonement for the downright genocide and brutality committed by those savages who immorally came to this land and claimed it as their own. No atonement whatsoever. The descendants of that trash have no right to do what they are currently doing. This land is your land, right? You just don't know what Pandora's box has been opened in this country by electing that orange piece of crap as president and letting him put a white nationalist in charge of things in the White House. It's about to get very, very real here in terms of protesting and resistance. This has been a long time coming.
Absolutely an idiotic argument. The Americas would not have remained isolated for long. Any contact with outsiders, whether it be Europeans, Africans, Asians, etc would have caused the same number of people killed due to disease. The people who were born in this country have EVERY RIGHT TO BE HERE. The people who came before us settled and created the United States into the greatest country in modern times. We have absolutely made many mistakes, but I challenge you to name one country who has contributed as much to humanity as we have.
What the F does any of this have to do w/ the election, you're all over the place.
"i don't want to deal with these monsters"… well good job othering you hypocritical shit.
you know what, your great great grandfather probably stepped on an ant and raped a few babbies so i guess i can hold you guilty for that
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The most dangerous immigrants arrived here in 1492.
Thank you! The real Native Americans who were slaughtered like cattle by those murderous white immigrants that immorally came here can attest to that fact. Soulless murderers, and now their descendants want to claim this land like it was rightfully and justly acquired. Sounds like I hear the chickens coming home to roost. How much longer do we have to put up with these soulless monsters?
And what exactly have you done to stop the continued genocide of Natives? Blue-State Connecticut systematically used political clout in DC to erase one of the tribes that had survived DESPITE the best efforts of the state from the time before it was even a state, but then Indian Gaming became a thing, and they had to keep that from spreading, so they used clout in DC to destroy a couple of their tribes. What have you done to hold your elected officials accountable for such actions?
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Why do liberals support illegals so fucking much?!
Why don't they support the people who went the legal route and got punished for it by being forced out because of another amnesty for illegals? This is why I now live in the UK.
Why are liberals silent on how Mexico treats illegals in their country?
You live in the UK now. Okay, so you are a full blown hypocrite. I figured as much. So you're whining about things that don't even occur in the country you live in. So as the White House burns, you just fan the flames. Nice…
You still get US news/media? You know it's a fucking circus correct? We found out yesterday that Scott Pruitt is 100% completely owned by oil companies. Great Pick… Oh and Reince Priebus was trying to get James Comey to lie to the media, which got leaked to the media. Every day is leaks and Trump lies. The only one on Trump's team that has some how avoided a scandal is Pence. I had this false hope that Trump was just behaving the way he was behaving to appeal to the voters. Nope, he's a fucking idiot, who I guarantee will be remembered as being one of the worst presidents in US history.
He's been president for a month and he's spent more time golfing than reading intel reports. Dude, America is so fucking screwed it's not even funny…
Edit: Oh yeah and it's starting to look like were going to Syria. So Iraq War #3: Iraq's Neighbor Edition. Awesome…
DISREGARDED, off topic personal attack.
I am living in the UK because of illegals getting priority in the immigration queue over my now husband who went the legal route. I moved to the UK the legal way.
It seems you are pissy because we LEGALLY did our immigration.
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Anyone ranting about European immigrants taking land from the native Americans, need to show that not once did native Americans take lands from anyone else. I'll save them from wasting time lying to us and let everyone know that they routinely took land from each other. It wasn't all peace and harmony like the SJWs want us to believe.
It's funny how liberals only seem to know that white people took lands from others, but are totally clueless about non whites doing it. It's all just part of the self loathing cuckery.
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I am living in the UK because of illegals getting priority in the immigration queue over my now husband who went the legal route. I moved to the UK the legal way.
Everyone: I joined this site 10 years ago, and raphjd was living in the UK then, so I really wonder if this is some new problem. As Donald J. Trump would say, in defense of his non-payment of taxes, screwing his contractors and dodging the draft: "that's smart, because I got away with it." If raphjd and his husband didn't just come to the US illegally, doesn't that suggest he's not that bright??
But let's continue:
Anyone ranting about European immigrants taking land from the native Americans, need to show that not once did native Americans take lands from anyone else. (emphasis mine)
Here raphjd is fall-on-his-own-face-stupid, because we likewise we could say: "Anyone ranting about Germany taking land from France / Poland / Austria / etc. during WWII needs to show that not once did France, Poland, Austria, etc. take lands from anyone else." (Maybe raphjd considers WWII Germany justified in it's expansion, considering that whole Austro-Hungarian Empire thing…)
But, seriously, we need to be a little considerate of raphjd. I have it on very good authority (but I'm not supposed to say this) that raphjd is only posting crap like this because his dog thinks he's an imbecile. When we have a site where an admin is also a troll, perhaps we should just ignore all his posts? (And wish the best for his poor dog, of course).
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I am living in the UK because of illegals getting priority in the immigration queue over my now husband who went the legal route. I moved to the UK the legal way.
Everyone: I joined this site 10 years ago, and raphjd was living in the UK then, so I really wonder if this is some new problem. As Donald J. Trump would say, in defense of his non-payment of taxes, screwing his contractors and dodging the draft: "that's smart, because I got away with it." If raphjd and his husband didn't just come to the US illegally, doesn't that suggest he's not that bright??
But let's continue:
Anyone ranting about European immigrants taking land from the native Americans, need to show that not once did native Americans take lands from anyone else. (emphasis mine)
Here raphjd is fall-on-his-own-face-stupid, because we likewise we could say: "Anyone ranting about Germany taking land from France / Poland / Austria / etc. during WWII needs to show that not once did France, Poland, Austria, etc. take lands from anyone else." (Maybe raphjd considers WWII Germany justified in it's expansion, considering that whole Austro-Hungarian Empire thing…)
But, seriously, we need to be a little considerate of raphjd. I have it on very good authority (but I'm not supposed to say this) that raphjd is only posting crap like this because his dog thinks he's an imbecile. When we have a site where an admin is also a troll, perhaps we should just ignore all his posts? (And wish the best for his poor dog, of course).
Not sure what's going on here but I think I need some popcorn.
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Alright…
Here's an opinion from an actual mexican.
The man killed himself because he has NOTHING back in Mexico okay? It was his 3rd deportation and he decided to take his own life instead of returning to his native country.
Maybe you don't get it because USA recieves immigrants, rather than creating them so I'll explain some stuff, so you better pay fucking attention.
People emigrate to the USA because there are no chances for economic or social mobility here in Mexico. The agricultural sector is underdeveloped. As you can see, lots of farmhands cross the border to work at USA's fields.
Second, the cost of living in USA is less than in Mexico. You can buy more with 1 dollar there than with 1 peso here. This translates as easy living for migrants. You can wait tables or work as a domestic and still you can feed your family decently. It also explains why most of the migrants don't pursue higher education in the US, but their children do.
Now, Mexico actually benefits from the money sent back to their families. Wires and money transfers from USA to Mexico are an important part of the latter's GDP.
All the rallies here in favor of the deported migrants are hypocritical, since the reason they left in the first place was the lack of opportunities in the country, plus, there's really no reintegration programs for them. They couldn't live in the same level they did back in USA if they were to work in the same things here in Mexico.
So is no wonder the poor sod killed himself.
And raphjd is right regarding Mexico's own treatment to immigrants from Central America, they are treated really badly here. Is the old proverb: 'And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye'
(Don't let the bit of scripture ruffle your Democratic feathers, we have the saying in laic spanish but couldn't translate it into English)
I do feel you're hypocritical too...you don't really care about migrants, you care about your domestics, gardeners, your baristas and waiters, because they do jobs you wouldn't even dare to do anymore. USA has had an imperialistic approach towards Mexico from a long time now, continued by Democrats and Republicans alike.
A Day without Immigrants? Pfft...it only shows that immigrants are employed heavily in the services sector. What delusional mind thought that some closed restaurants and some hipsters unable to buy fresh produce equals to a 'paralyzed country'? You Liberals are the ones feeding the migrants your 'Kool-Aid' to keep them bowed down and compliant.
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I am living in the UK because of illegals getting priority in the immigration queue over my now husband who went the legal route. I moved to the UK the legal way.
Well, if the plan is that you both move to the US, he better hurry up or pray he gets through soon, some senators want to cut issued green cards by 50%. (Assuming I understand what you are saying correctly… Meaning; you have duel citizenship, he only has UK citizenship, and is trying to get a green card.)
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/318284-gop-senators-scale-back-legal-immigration-to-the-us
As far as the person attack comment, give me a break, you've been attacking me all over the place. I wouldn't be saying shit to you, if you weren't.
