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@eobox91103 said in illegal file:
As the discussion above shows, this is a complex topic. I'll add a few of my own thoughts here.
As for underage material, as @bi4smooth points out, you can't simply look at a "model" and determine their age. While a pre-pubescent 10 year old would not be mistaken for an adult, someone who's 15 can look 20, and vice versa. It would be nice to be able to rely on a producer's certification of age-compliance, but this is not infallible. Some get it wrong, and some purposely misrepresent the facts.
I did a porn movie (actually 2) when I was 19... it was shot in NYC, and ... Blah blah blah... I was 19 and in need of money for college! 6 months later, I was asked to come BACK to re-shoot the scene... seems my co-star was only 17 and used a fake ID. (I declined, but that's not the point. The point is: fake IDs are nothing new, though they ARE harder to make (believably) today than back in the 1980s!)
Then, there's the issue of amateur material--anybody with a smartphone can make and post a video. There's no way to determine the age of the performers, and thus some sites will not host (or share) material that isn't from a commercial producer. There is amateur material on GR.ru, and it's possible that there are some underage performers. The moderators can't look at everything that's uploaded.
This site, like most media in this category, is wholly dependent on users reporting illegal material. That's why there is a report feature!
Part of amateur material is voyeur content--filmed in a locker room, shower, or over the divider of a toilet stall without the consent of the subject. These subjects could pursue both the person taking the photos and anyone possessing that material for an invasion of privacy--the usual norm being that photos or videos taken where a person has a "legitimate expectation of privacy" constitute such invasion. This gets further complicated given that there's no way to verify the age of a person being recorded in such circumstances. I have seen some toilet stall videos where I am less than convinced that the subject was 18 or over.
Anything non-professional and with non-well-known actors is possibly age inappropriate (I know a 16 y/o with a chest hairy enough to make any 40 y/o envious!)
And finally, we need to distinguish age of consent from age of majority: In Canada, and most of the United States, it is legal to engage in sexual activity with someone 16 or 17 years old--but possessing a photo of that person's genitalia would be a crime.
An example among many potential ones where juggling between the varying ages that boys and girls become men and women - and recognizing that the sexual urges that come with that transformation are biologically programmed to be difficult to suppress - is problematic in our society.
The "18+" rules for porn aren't perfect - there are some 18 y/o actors who are NOT mature enough (mentally, physically, or emotionally) to make the decision to do porn, and there are 15 y/o actors who DO have all the necessary faculties... and there is no reasonable way to balance those, except to draw an artificial line in the sand and say "18 is it - under 18 and you can't make those decisions, over 18 and you can" and accept that there will be examples where that is a bad age - on both sides.
One conclusion from all this is that each of us needs to use caution about what material we download and/or keep on our computer. Ultimately, it doesn't matter that you believe it's "legal" or can make an argument for that being the case, but rather it's what the legal system would think if you come under scrutiny. There have been cases where a person's computer or download records were seized for one reason or another, and when an investigator had reason to believe that there was banned material present, criminal charges were made. These might be later dismissed or acquitted, but only after considerable inconvenience and/or embarrassment. I don't say this to frighten people, but only to recommend that all of us be careful in what we do. Unless one is really into child (i.e., pre-pubescent) material, there's an abundance of clearly legal content available on this site that will be more than satisfying.
Agreed: I personally prefer the "amateur" content of models that have appeared in "studio porn" - examples are Aiden Garcia (my boy-crush) & his current beau, Seth Peterson; as well as the "twinkzz101" boys (Jacob & Harley). Unlike the studio content, they often cum where they want to, and their "enjoyment" is never under scrutiny! (I love it when they "accidentally" cum too early - much of their content is for Chatturbate, where they WANT to move into a "pay" chat space for the cum shots) - but keep right on going after!
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You're right that nothing is absolute. There are, unfortunately, unscrupulous people out there who will flat out lie about the age of the people involved. On other websites, I've seen people upload known underage videos and magazines while claiming the subjects are adults, and if I didn't know what they were, I'd have easily assumed they were telling the truth. (I've also seen people flat-out upload videos and photos of little kids, which is its own problem, but thankfully doesn't seem to be an issue here.) This isn't even touching the issue of fake IDs.
I think the only thing you can really do is report it if you see something that looks wrong and exercise caution as best you can.
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@adonismix said in illegal file:
You're right that nothing is absolute. There are, unfortunately, unscrupulous people out there who will flat out lie about the age of the people involved. On other websites, I've seen people upload known underage videos and magazines while claiming the subjects are adults, and if I didn't know what they were, I'd have easily assumed they were telling the truth. (I've also seen people flat-out upload videos and photos of little kids, which is its own problem, but thankfully doesn't seem to be an issue here.) This isn't even touching the issue of fake IDs.
I think the only thing you can really do is report it if you see something that looks wrong and exercise caution as best you can.
That's the system here: see underage? report it, and it will be removed. People who consistently upload under-age content will be removed, too! LOL
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Oh absolutely, I don't mean to imply otherwise! The mods are very good about that. Most of my posts here are intended to speak in a general sense in regards to gay porn piracy.
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only way be sure is no allow ameater content
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@corbyn4life said in illegal file:
only way be sure is no allow ameater content
I'm sorry - but the only way to be sure you're not watching under-age porn is to not watch porn at all, and if that's your take, then kindly turn-in your membership to this site at the desk...
IMHO, efforts DO NEED to be taken - and they are here - but you don't slaughter the herd to avoid one black sheep!
