Where are the Biden supporters?!
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While Trump was President, the TDS crowd repeatedly posted here demanding that Trump supporters defend everything Trump did/said.
Now that Honest Joe is in office, his supporters no longer post here.
My guess is that they are terrified that they will be grilled and treated like they did to their enemies.
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Even before #senilejoe stole the election, Joe was given a free pass in that he barely ever went on the campaign trail, and when you did see him, it was typically in the basement of his home reading off of a teleprompter.
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@lololulu19 said in Where are the Biden supporters?!:
Even before #senilejoe stole the election, Joe was given a free pass in that he barely ever went on the campaign trail, and when you did see him, it was typically in the basement of his home reading off of a teleprompter.
That sound like sour-grapes, if you ask me... especially the snide remark about "stole the election"... you need to find a pair of big-boy-pants and grow a pair! Whether Trump woulda, shoulda, or coulda won the 2020 election, its a historical fact now... and until the election cycle in 2024 occurs, the ONLY successor to Biden will be Harris... and if that's what you want, then you're not only childish and delusional, you're spiteful even to your own detriment! (e.g.: your "cure" - Harris as President instead of Biden - is far worse than the disease! You want a SCARY Dem in the Oval Office, you could scarcely find a MORE scary one than THAT lady!)
Plus, if you think that Joe Biden ever had (or could have) the kind of rabid support Donald Trump had (and still has), you're delusional. Trump is a polarizing politician, and an autocrat: he permits no dissension within his Republican Party!
It's comparatively easy for Dems to say they support one thing about Biden and not other things... Further, they have no compulsion to defend him (as evidenced by their complete willingness to call him out when his administration "steps on it's own dick" ala these latest border incidents: HORSES? Really?)
I've said it before... Biden did not WIN the US Presidency because he had more supporters... Trump LOST the US Presidency because he had more detractors!
Trumps domestic policy (other than the fascist parts) were solid... his foreign policy was churlish - nearly childish in his not understanding of other cultures, but he wasn't DANGEROUS "out there"... his problem was that he insisted anyone who disagreed with him and spoke their mind was "disloyal" and that doing so was downright "treasonous" - which meant that EVEN the people (count me in this group) who supported many of his policies - but not ALL of them - were pushed out and pushed TOWARDS voting for "the other guy" - and it really didn't matter much WHO "the other guy" was, so long as it wasn't a DANGEROUS AUTOCRAT & FASCIST!
If you want Biden to have supporters like Trump's supporters, you'll have a long time searching thru THAT empty rabbit-hole!
For now, we need to hold the line on these huge spending programs (tho we also need to stop threatening to slash our own throats - and just pass the debt ceiling bill!) and stop as much of this liberal shopping spree as we can until we take control of Congress again in 2023 (when the 2022 winners take office)... Then Biden can start his "lame duckery" early, and we can keep him (and his Dem counterparts) at bay until 2024...
But part of that is that we need to make sure the Republican Party isn't a "Trump Only" party... because if we devolve to that, we'll lose... if not in 2022, certainly in 2024! Then we'll be in a HUGE mess! I don't even want to think about it... we need good, CONSERVATIVE (but not Trumpite) candidates to WIN in 2022!
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@raphjd Are you kidding me with this? After everything Trump did, and continues to do, you are still defending him?
Here is the diference between the left and the right- on the right, you have blind loyalty to an authoritarian figure who you want to rule over you.
On the left, we consider politicians to be our employees, not our leaders. We know they are human, and fallible. We do NOT defend every single thing they do. We criticize them constantly. We criticized the Clintons, we criticized Obama, and we criticize Biden.
We also realize that even with their flaws, they are a thousand times better than Trump or Bush.
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You're kidding us, right?!
You guys worship Biden and Co.
According to Honest Joe's very own words, he is a dictator.
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I'm still waiting for the Biden supporters to call him out on anything.
Or is that just a lie from the left?
AGAIN, where are all the liberals that constantly demanded conservatives defend everything Trump did and said, but are nowhere in sight to do the same now that their guy is President?
Also, let's not forget that according to liberal logic, if you support a person, you support absolutely everything they do and say.
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@raphjd said in Where are the Biden supporters?!:
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Also, let's not forget that according to liberal logic, if you support a person, you support absolutely everything they do and say.
Um, that is Trumpism, not liberalism (and not conservatism, either!).
Under Trumpism: You agree with Trump 100% or you are disloyal and traitorous!
Just ask Lindsey Graham!
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UMM, that is what the liberals claimed here.
If I support someone they don't like, I have to support everything that person does or says.
Also, you said that I wasn't a conservative because I didn't (still don't) support RHINO Romney or any of the warhawks.
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@raphjd said in Where are the Biden supporters?!:
UMM, that is what the liberals claimed here.
If I support someone they don't like, I have to support everything that person does or says.
Also, you said that I wasn't a conservative because I didn't (still don't) support RHINO Romney or any of the warhawks.
You see, there is the difference. I do not claim you couldn't be a decent Republican just because you don't (or didn't) support Romney, or Bush, or McCain... (Though I do complain that you're not much of a Republican if you didn't support a SINGLE Republican Presidential Nominee in the 20 years prior to Trump!)
You, however, claim that I cannot be a Republican - now or ever - if I don't support Trump...
You want your cake and eat it too... which doesn't even exist in fairy tales!
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I claim you can't be a Republican because there isn't a single DNC dogma that you won't defend to the hilt.
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@raphjd said in Where are the Biden supporters?!:
I claim you can't be a Republican because there isn't a single DNC dogma that you won't defend to the hilt.
No, I have railed against Biden and the Dems from the time they took power. You conflate an argument against your exaggerated, hyperbolic, and sometimes even FALSE claims as somehow an argument against what you're trying to support.
For example:
FACT: Jeffrey Dahmer killed 17 men & boys in the 1980's, partially eating some of them, practicing necrophilia on some of the latter corpses, and keeping body parts (mostly bones) as "treasures" to remember his victims by.... overall, a bad guy who met his end in prison at the hands of a fellow inmate - being beaten to death.You would likely post something akin to:
Dahmer was a typical LIBERAL! He and Nancy Pelosi killed DOZENS of children because they were blonde and gay, raped & tortured them, ate them, and then sold their bones on e-Bay. And Chuck Schumer helped cover it all up!To which, I would reply: There was never any indication that he was a Democrat (or Republican), nor that he had any ties to Congress at all - you just made that up! Plus, he killed only 17, not DOZENS; they weren't all boys, some were adult men; there was no indication they were sexually abused BEFORE death (he did apparently practice necrophelia... ew... on some of his last victims though); and he never sold any body parts on e-Bay... that would have made finding him much easier! As it was, it took more than a decade to catch him!
To which, you would reply that I'm in love with Nancy Pelosi and support murderers and rapists, like all the other Liberals....
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I'm still waiting for you and your fellow Democrats to criticize Biden and Co.
The forums are silent when it comes to you people criticizing Biden.
Maybe you guys are criticizing the DNC in some secret bunker hearings with Shifty Schiff or whatnot, but you aren't doing it here.
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@raphjd said in Where are the Biden supporters?!:
I'm still waiting for you and your fellow Democrats to criticize Biden and Co.
The forums are silent when it comes to you people criticizing Biden.
Maybe you guys are criticizing the DNC in some secret bunker hearings with Shifty Schiff or whatnot, but you aren't doing it here.
LOL - I've written PLENTY of anti-Dem posts here... including warnings MONTHS ago about the coming inflation (which you now see being reported not just in cars and homes, but in pork-bellies [aka: bacon], beef, chicken, and soon to be your favorite vegetables too!)
I've been reading warnings that holiday decorations are going to be pricier this year in the US... but, it's not going to stop there! Higher prices are here for gas, and almost everything else... and most of America is lassez-faire about it all! After all, they HAVE more money, so they don't mind spending it! But their extra money is temporary! The Gov't cannot just keep handing it out!
I am so tired of politicians (on both sides) playing to the DUMBEST elements of their respective parties...
STUPID PEOPLE SHOULD NOT RULE THE WORLD
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Biden has fucked up everything, yet you have only made a few throw-away comments about general things going on.
Liberals constantly made threads about everything MSM told them about Trump, criticizing him, but haven't made any threads doing the same about Biden.
As I already said, you may be doing it in Shifty Schiff's secret bunker hearings, but you ain't doing it here.
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@raphjd said in Where are the Biden supporters?!:
Biden has fucked up everything, yet you have only made a few throw-away comments about general things going on.
Liberals constantly made threads about everything MSM told them about Trump, criticizing him, but haven't made any threads doing the same about Biden.
As I already said, you may be doing it in Shifty Schiff's secret bunker hearings, but you ain't doing it here.
I don't know if you've noticed, but the MSM has been criticizing Biden pretty harshly lately (nice, ain't it!) - but here's the thing: when 1/3 of your day is spent trying to make headlines that day, you get a LOT of attention! That was Trump!
Yes, there are days that Biden doesn't get covered (good or bad) in the MSM. Trump would have been FURIOUS if the MSM had let a day go by without HIM leading the nightly newscast! Biden doesn't care (and for AT LEAST that part of his Presidency, I am thankful).
I think you need to stop thinking Biden is Trump in Liberal clothing!
Rather than worrying about how the media is (or isn't) covering Biden, why not worry about getting Conservative Republican candidates to run NON-TRUMPITE campaigns and regain some of of the national power we LOST at the hands of Trump!
The US has lost 700,000+ to COVID-19... of the last 100,000 to die, 85,000 of them have been the kind of people who vote RED - who BLEED RED POLITICS!
Those votes are GONE. We're not getting the young voters (at least not in large numbers), who are largely apathetic anyway... No, those 85K+ voters will be HARD to replace... and we're still losing MORE - at a rate 11X higher than the "typical" liberal!
GET THE FUCKING SHOTS!
IT WORKS!
IT'S NOT DANGEROUS!
STOP DYING OF COVID-19!
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You are still being the DNC panty shield.
I don't give a damned about what MSM is doing, but what you hypocritical liberals are NOT doing on this site now that your guy is in office.
The only ones hammering Biden from the left are far left, and they are the ones that the DNC said were a myth. They are the same ones that had signs saying "even democrats get the bullet" and similar.
The MSM is pretty silent about Biden telling the DOJ/FBI to treat angry parents as domestic terrorists.
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@raphjd said in Where are the Biden supporters?!:
You are still being the DNC panty shield.
I don't give a damned about what MSM is doing, but what you hypocritical liberals are NOT doing on this site now that your guy is in office.
The only ones hammering Biden from the left are far left, and they are the ones that the DNC said were a myth. They are the same ones that had signs saying "even democrats get the bullet" and similar.
The MSM is pretty silent about Biden telling the DOJ/FBI to treat angry parents as domestic terrorists.
You are hopeless... you cannot see ANY KIND of big-picture! All you care about is minutae that make you feel good about yourself...
If all Republicans thought like you, we've have 100 House seats and 20 or so Senate seats - but DAMN! We'd have the moral high ground! Who needs to be in power when you can throw stones at the "enemy"...
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AH, so in order to be a "good Repub", I have to be a do-nothing swampie.
Clearly, you think Biden abusing his power is good for the US and that makes sense since you voted for him and have been totally silent on the matter.
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@raphjd said in Where are the Biden supporters?!:
AH, so in order to be a "good Repub", I have to be a do-nothing swampie.
Clearly, you think Biden abusing his power is good for the US and that makes sense since you voted for him and have been totally silent on the matter.
Clearly you think that worthlessly, endlessly, and often hyperbolically complaining about people IN power is more important than getting those people REPLACED in the next election!
Look, when Dems complained about Trump's policies (many of which I supported), the refrain was often along the lines of: SUCK IT! We're the party in power!
Well, the shoe is on the other foot now... and while we are NOT in power, we solve NOTHING by whining about the liberal things the liberals in power are doing! What the hell did you expect them to do?
All this focus on sore-loser Trump and his endless complaints that he WON in 2020 (who cares about facts?) are distracting us from putting the things in place we need to do to UNSEAT a SITTING PRESIDENT (something that is HARD to do! In spite of it happening to Trump!).
This is f**cking NUTS!
And, all this anti-Science, and anti-Vax rhetoric is accomplishing a most ghoulish and ghastly voter suppression (via DEATH) policy... not of our opponents though, the ones we're killing are our own voters
This is f**cking NUTS!
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Stole the election? You mean. Crooked Trump gift wrapped the election in a bow and handled in it to Senile Joe.
Your FRAUDIT in Arizona was so stupid you found more votes for Biden. Nothing was stolen. Trump was incompetent and was a clown show on tour. Pick better representation and stop trying to dismantle American democracy because your poor choice of a candidate lost an election. Build a bridge and get over it. Just this week your leaders were ready to march the country and the world over a cliff and bring on a recession because they didn't want to pay for all of the bills they ran up when they gave all of the Dark Money Republican Campaign Donor Tax Cuts. You guys are not serious people or serious about governing.
Focus on 2024. Find a competent candidate who is not about Trumpism, Racism, Tribalism, who is not about taking away voting rights, who is not about taking away abortion right or tearing down the fabric of democracy and also BELIEVES IN SCIENCE AND MODERN MEDICINE, and then maybe you will have a chance. If not you won't even win back the house in 2022.
The Democrats are likely going to get their lives together, throw out the Filibuster, expand the Supreme Court, Enact Nationwide Voting Rights and the nation will never have to worry about another Republican coming close to the levers of power again and wrecking the US economy, Democracy , environment or social system.
