Where is the Conservative Outrage?
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Former NSA Michael Flynn stepped on his own dick this weekend, answering a question from the audience:
Q: "I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can't happen here?"
For reference, the Myanmar military overthrew the democratically-elected Government because they didn't like the outcome. The coup has been bloody and violent, and has been criticized by virtually ALL of the rest of the world.
Mr. Flynn's response - after a short pause for consideration :
A: "No reason. I mean, it should happen here. No reason, that's right"
This is Nationalist Fascism... pure and simple.
Had he not started today (a day later) to try to walk-back that simple comment, he'd likely be in deep legal trouble. And he may still be: Publicly espousing the violent overthrow of the US Government is Sedition and Treason.
So, he's trying to walk it back to cover his ass... but where is the outrage from Conservatives? The audience members APPLAUDED that response! If you're not outraged at the response itself, be outraged at the response to it!
I want to be clear here: I mean where are the Conservative responses - NOT the Trumpite responses... we already know they support this kind of rhetoric! I mean Conservative voices like Ted Cruz and Mitch McConnell & Kevin McCarthy!
I'll tell you - they're silent because they're cowards - afraid to stand up against this Nationalist Fascism in our own Party for fear of losing re-election.
Country above party above self...
Unless you're a coward.
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Do you mean like how your beloved President has ordered loyalty tests for the military, Secret Service and Capitol Police?
Your beloved President already labeled himself a dictator, as discussed in a couple of threads.
You voted for a guy who loves China more than he cares about the US.
You voted for a guy that you knew to be extremely dirty.
What does that say about YOU.
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@raphjd said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
Do you mean like how your beloved President has ordered loyalty tests for the military, Secret Service and Capitol Police?
Your beloved President already labeled himself a dictator, as discussed in a couple of threads.
You voted for a guy who loves China more than he cares about the US.
You voted for a guy that you knew to be extremely dirty.
What does that say about YOU.
It says I chose the lesser of 2 evils... I've been pretty clear about that from the start!
Re-write it any way you want... characterize it with any hyperbole you want.
Biden is still better FOR THE COUNTRY than Trump would have been...
Country above party above self...
It speaks for itself: I valued "saving" the country over "winning at all costs" (for the Party), and over my personal distaste for both politicians... clearly a LOT of other registered Republicans acted the way I did... because we won way more than we should have down-ballot, and Trump seemed to have "negative" coattails!
Honestly, since George HW Bush, I don't think I've EVER voted for President in the US when I didn't have to "hold my nose" - at least a little - because I didn't particularly like either candidate!
I would LOVE to live in your world: where for every evil, there is an equal and opposite HERO... and for every "Good Guy", there is a sniveling, "Snidely Whiplash" character to be the foil... But I live in reality... no person is all good, nor all evil.
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Flynn himself repudiates what's been ascribed to him: https://news.yahoo.com/michael-flynn-denies-suggesting-myanmar-220150348.html
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Well, it's been made very clear that the election was fraudulent. 30,000 ballots in Georgia were discovered as totally fake now... printed on a different kind of paper than all the other ballots, with the same mark for just Biden done by printer ink, all sequentially in a row like -ballot number one, ballot number two, ballot number three (not the way they would appear in the mail). Just wait. The conservative outrage is focused not on a hero like Michael Flynn, who was set up and exonerated! He was found NOT guilty, and they set him up, the people you are defending (criminals). What happened here is worse. They stole the election and compromised our entire nation with a weak demented old man controlled by strings.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
Well, it's been made very clear that the election was fraudulent. 30,000 ballots in Georgia were discovered as totally fake now... printed on a different kind of paper than all the other ballots, with the same mark for just Biden done by printer ink, all sequentially in a row like -ballot number one, ballot number two, ballot number three (not the way they would appear in the mail). Just wait. The conservative outrage is focused not on a hero like Michael Flynn, who was set up and exonerated! He was found NOT guilty, and they set him up, the people you are defending (criminals). What happened here is worse. They stole the election and compromised our entire nation with a weak demented old man controlled by strings.
There is no truth to the claim that 30k fraudulent ballots were discovered in Georgia. This is a lie. I challenge progressives when they lie, and I challenge fellow conservatives when they lie.
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@jsl76 Well that's what's being reported. So I am willing to bet it's true because this source is usually accurate. You wanna make a bet? Who wants to make a bet!? Let's make this a casino! 100 dollars if I'm right, to me, from you. Make it 1,000. I bet you 1K$ that 30K fake ballots were discovered in Georgia.
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@jsl76 said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
Flynn himself repudiates what's been ascribed to him: https://news.yahoo.com/michael-flynn-denies-suggesting-myanmar-220150348.html
Flynn says he didn't mean it - and I trust him in that (though if you watch the video, there isn't much to walk back... which is to say, he doesn't give himself much "wiggle room"... he's pretty blatantly calling for a military coup!)...
My outrage isn't so much with him (tho it is to a lesser extent), it is with the crowd's reaction - in full, enthusiastic support of a military coup because they lost an election!
I'm using this term in another topic, but it's apropos here as well - this is Nationalist Fascism! \
Self-delusional, and dangerous!
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Sorry, but you cant excuse away your extreme TDS.
You blame Trump for what liberal mayors and Govs have allowed to happen.
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@bi4smooth I agree with Flynn in that there is overwhelming proof that the Democrats cheated and they will now have to step down. That's going to be a total blow to everything they've ever imagined.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth I agree with Flynn in that there is overwhelming proof that the Democrats cheated and they will now have to step down. That's going to be a total blow to everything they've ever imagined.
You're delusional...
- IF there was actual evidence of such massive vote fraud, we'd have heard about it - not from the alt-right news, but from members of Congress and Republican leadership
- IF there was actual evidence of such massive vote fraud, at this point there is nothing you could do about it except attempt to impeach Biden! He's immune from criminal prosecution while he's President, and if you think he'd step down - with Dems in control of both houses of Congress - you're both delusional AND just plain stupid.
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@raphjd said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
Sorry, but you cant excuse away your extreme TDS.
You blame Trump for what liberal mayors and Govs have allowed to happen.
You are such a tool! It's laughable!
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@bi4smooth You are being ridiculous. There has been atleast five documentaries about it. And you're pretending that it's all completely nonexistant. You are a gaslighter. There is so much proof that the democrats sent 100 lawyers to Arizona. Why not just say, "Ok... look at the ballots... they're all legit." You're not fooling anyone with your little word magic.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth You are being ridiculous. There has been atleast five documentaries about it. And you're pretending that it's all completely nonexistant. You are a gaslighter. There is so much proof that the democrats sent 100 lawyers to Arizona. Why not just say, "Ok... look at the ballots... they're all legit." You're not fooling anyone with your little word magic.
Ummm... the only people allowed to touch the ballots in AZ are Trumpsters (not even actual Republicans dispute the Arizona results - they'd already done a REAL audit!)
If Trump were the target here, he's use his favorite phrase...
It's a witch hunt!
Facts don't matter to you... the messaging does... anything that supports the message "Trump really won" must be true, and anything that doesn't support that message must be false, misleading, and evil.
In other words... Nationalist Fascism...
Hail Trump!
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@bi4smooth Yea right, the entire audit is being recorded 24/7, the most transparent audit ever. When election night was going on, they boarded up the windows so people couldn't look inside, and then they are on camera pulling ballots out from under the table in suitcases, then Biden won. What a joke.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth Yea right, the entire audit is being recorded 24/7, the most transparent audit ever. When election night was going on, they boarded up the windows so people couldn't look inside, and then they are on camera pulling ballots out from under the table in suitcases, then Biden won. What a joke.
You should stop for a minute and lookup the definition of "audit"... what they're doing is more akin to a REAL "Witch Hunt" than an audit!
Again, even the REAL Republicans in AZ are calling this a farce! You'd think you could keep your own party in line if there was a hint of legitimacy!
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@bi4smooth No, the Republicans were in control and allowed these machines. They simply don't want that fact out. It is what it is. Don't act like I'm being stabbed in the back by someone I already knew was a traitor. I didn't vote for that jackass. You act like when a Republican is busted for being a two faced hypocrite that it's worse than when a Democrat does it.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth No, the Republicans were in control and allowed these machines. They simply don't want that fact out. It is what it is. Don't act like I'm being stabbed in the back by someone I already knew was a traitor. I didn't vote for that jackass. You act like when a Republican is busted for being a two faced hypocrite that it's worse than when a Democrat does it.
No, but I don't think massive numbers of Republican Secretaries of State all over the country colluded to "steal" the election from Trump, either!
Will there be discrepancies? Sure! Will they exceed 1%? Unlikely... indeed, I think that's what the delay is... they can't find ENOUGH "wiggle room" to make it so that Trump actually wins! LOL - and they'll keep on looking until the money runs out! Nothing like a bunch of lawyers to burn through money until it's ALL gone! Just ask anyone whose ever been in a DIVORCE! LOL
Personally, I think it was aliens... I think the AZ re-counters should be looking for non-human DNA on those ballots!
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@jsl76 Well that's what's being reported. So I am willing to bet it's true because this source is usually accurate. You wanna make a bet? Who wants to make a bet!? Let's make this a casino! 100 dollars if I'm right, to me, from you. Make it 1,000. I bet you 1K$ that 30K fake ballots were discovered in Georgia.
No, it's not "being reported," unless you count the breathless repeating of conspiracy hypotheses to be a "report."
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@bi4smooth No that's ridiculous. You clearly don't understand what's going on. They are looking at 2.1 million votes. It takes time.