Posts made by furio111

Leftist always complain.
And even complaining they do wrong.
Because the biggest issue with Trump is that he has not built the wall.  ;D

I'm not related to the US. Other then by watching elections like a show.
But it is impossible for me to imagine peaceful "unification" or "equality" there.

@bc22:

There is a long ways to go before there is true equality.

Love such lines.
It must be exciting time to be in the blue church now.

@ManHandler:

Everyone knows you're trash. Just get over it.

You can't write that right after your own post.

Modern politics is garbage no doubt.
It is irrational to be attracted to garbage if it is outside of your control.

@Calatar:

But it is a particularly interesting conundrum, one which I would love an answer to!

Why would a majority of white women vote for someone who has, for his entire life, denigrated women?

Some of it could be explained by racism - sure.  I'm certain some of them were, just by demographics.  But it couldn't possibly be all of them.  (the fact that they are accommodating and or acquiescing to racists is a different charge that would be difficult for them to get away from… but that's another matter).

I think it's interesting to look at the campaigning that was done by the Trump Campaign targeting white women specifically: it talked up to their fears about their communities and housing being destroyed by the 'Democrats wanting to build more affordable housing' (no point going into whether any of this is true or not for the purposes of this question.  The Trump Campaign did this - and it's on record, so we can at least see that).

So I think it's much more plausible that white women voted for Trump out of fear and the want to protect what they have at the moment (status, income, tax advantages, etc), which is a perfectly understandable and rational position to take to the ballot box.

It's also interesting to see the split when you break down white women into whether they were more college-educated or not - and in that case, only slightly more than half of white women voted for Biden if they were college-educated than if they weren't.  So again, no real demonstration that it was a matter of education either.

Leads me to think that, largely, they were protecting their status quo - and were willing to go along with a group of people who are racists, and to support someone who is a misogynist - in order to do that.

I think this makes much more sense than the rather base explanation of "they were Nazis".

So you see them either as racist or greedy and voting for somebody they hate otherwise just to keep their wealth.
Is it all of them or like 80% how do you think?
And how that statement of you can be tested?

Concerning education I believe that if you filter-out garbage degrees and ones with no family
you should get even bigger number of Trump voters among university graduates.
And likely Trump lead even among college graduates.

Educated white females voted for Trump 50+%.
Do you think they are nazis because they are white?

Too opressed on a gay forum by nazis?
No it makes sense, I beleive in liberalizm now.
I guess you guys have nightmares with Hitler and stuff and that informs your politics.

My political compass can rotate a bit depending on how gay I feel.
By default I hover over libertarian-right but do not commit.

Generally I think where it feels like there is less manipulation/deception/coercion that I prefer.

There are also absentee ballots of 120 year old people born on jan 1 I beleive.
And dictator voter turnout of 90% at some nice places.
Arizona shows a dick to everybody.

@erikiwi:

not getting the whole picture.

When you use word "free" it is a lie by omission.
You do not state who will pay for the X.
IQ/honesty issues on the left are a requirement because the whole ideology is based on such lies.

If you want to have some big change and you want to have it slowly with lies instead of quickly with force.
You are still a revolutionary but more of a slow subversion kind.

Production of lies/deception is a destructive activity.
I don't care about intentions.

Hating or wanting to improve is a question of intentions.
Intentions don't matter if results are destructive.

Leftists are revolutionary and destructive force.
No need to pretend that they are not.

But they are low-iq revolutionaries unfortunately.
And they decreace level of political conversation in society.

The gap has been debunked for some time already. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2017/08/01/are-women-paid-less-than-men-for-the-same-work

Remaining "gap" will never disappear due to biological differences and choices made based on them. https://www.economist.com/international/2017/10/07/the-gender-pay-gap

Polical decisions should be based on data and not on fantasies.

The $40 should be taken from a male nearby.
And get free out of jail card should be with Hillary.

I just happen to like the name but it should apply to all propaganda.

Basically there exist patterns of dishonest speech.
When somebody knowingly or habitually uses different ways to abuse limitations of somebody's brain.

In short: logical fallacies and cognitive biases.

For example a lot of anti-white propaganda can go into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-sum_thinking among other things.

"People who share this conviction believe that success, especially economic success, is possible only at the expense of other people’s failures."

Also use of volume and irrelevant references is popular (use of limits on speed of thinking and size of working memory).

I think that the key ingredient is use of any emotions that can override judgement.
Without this the product is cheap.

I see at least three problems with this communist speech:

• it sounds good for some people
• it sounds ok for other people
• there has to be something else behind it that it conceals

it is my people's history we're talking about here

I am not an american so maybe I do not know for sure.
But am I wrong about this:

Given this:
1. original slaves were enslaved by their own people;
2. they were sold by their own people;
3. they were moved from the failed continent to the future capitalist heaven where things like law and elections exist;
4. at other places slaves were not allowed to reproduce;

What you end up thinking:
1. white people bad;

STILL receive less money

Employed person should earn more then unemployed person.

It is almost like you perceive every problem as if it is because of white people.
Looking at the political circus in the US one can notice that this obession is quite common.

Low unemployment is there not for "non-white voters". It s for productive individuals with potential.
Anyway "non-white voters" as a group have a clear direction.

orange man bad

I think Trump and even Cummings are actors in a way so I do not want to think too much about what actors happen to say and why.
Probably they try to use drama/histeria to their advantage somehow.

white people have contributed to a lot of brutality

Because they acheived level of economic, technological and cultural progress other countries have failed to acheive.

Countries that fail to acheive certain level can be called shitholes by these parameters.

Calling some failed country a shithole does not make a white guy a "racist".
It is either true or false statement.

Anyway the west is the source of a lot of greatness at this point.
And there are specific crimes also (Lybia and Iraq are good candidates) but I doubt that Haiti or even slavery is on the list.
Stopping slavery in the civilized world is probably on the list of "things to be greatful for".

There is a bunch of other things on the list that happen to be ignored by some individuals who also like to blame "America" or "white people" for other countries being shitholes.
But say europeans had a lot of wars among each other and they are still doing well.
And for example Japan lost the war.
And japaneese do not blame americans for living in a shithole because they are not living in one.

I think that dignity is one of those nice political words (security is another one).
It looks good and right. But you can't achieve it while people who think "filthy, nasty, perverted, etc.." exist.
So the nice word is incompatible with other people existence and what they think.
Because you get a cake and you don't know what is inside it because you used government force.

So you should reprogram/replace other people to get this "dignity".
Making others think and behave the way you want is the biggest meddling one can have.

• military transgender ban

If you value army to being deadly more than being inclusive than it is what you should prefer.
Because by cutting expenses they are able to be more effective.
And it is responsive thing to choose.

• offenders will receive harsher sentences

In ideal system it would be bad idea to change law for every minority/group.
Because then everybody will be trying to get preferences for themselves.
And you loose some unity in the society.
But in reality whatever works.

• sex education

I think it can be a waste of money/time in school.
IDK if it works at all.
So I am for whatever status quo there is unless there is some data to support it.

• foster care

I haven't researched. But it looks like some experimental stuff too.

• bathrooms

I think that all options are bad.

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I think there may be some simple-minded haters. Who I don't care about.
And there may be some people who are annoyed by this minority politics.
And there are conservatives who are by definition risk averse in these things.

Anyway my politics is based on disrespect to socialism.
I'm not into these social/cultural aspects although they are important in some way.