@raphjd said in Party of family values part 1 😂:
@bi4smooth
I'm sick of hearing about how victimized women are from body shaming when they do it to themselves and they do it to men.
There you go, reading into things again - You're isolating the "body shaming" as-if it was only being argued that "body shaming from men" was bad... no such specification was made or implied.
Body shaming is cruel and wrong. Regardless of the source!
And the same is true for body shaming of men! I've heard far more MEN talk about "the fat guy" or "the guy with the micro-penis" or "the guy with 2 beer-bellies" or "chrome dome" or .... the list goes on and on... guys are far harder on guys than the women are!
ESPECIALLY IN THE GAY COMMUNITY!
Instagram is full of women using "face tune" and other techniques to alter their appearances. InformationOverload on YouTube and various websites out these people for doing it. They created an impossible version of beauty.
This is indeed an area where Social Media has been harmful to society - especially they way "mean girls" (or "mean guys") can hide behind anonymity for the most cruel and harmful posts/comments!
2 ad posters right next to each other and only 1 is banned. That is because WAHmen are victims and men don't matter. A woman in a bikini vs David Gandy in a Speedo, but only one is body shaming.
I don't know the specifics of what you're referring to, but here in the States there are some States and Cities where advertising using photoshopped models is forbidden.
That is: the girl in the bikini can be beautiful but you can't have photoshopped her hips and breasts and still use it in the advertising! She has to be her REAL self! You can remove a blemish, or a stray hair - but you cannot alter the models "appearance".
The same (in the States, anyway) goes for men - you can't photoshop in an 8-pack of abs, or grow his bulge in the speedos... you can't even photoshop out his chest hair (tho he can shave prior to the shoot)...
Even during gamer-gate, it was shown that most targeted harassment toward women was by other women. A very recent study showed the same thing. Women are evil to other women and to men.
You are awfully harsh on women... men are awful TOO! As you noted above, and I agree with: women are harder on other women than they are on men, and men are harder on other men than they are on women... but harder (aka: crueler) is not the same as being KIND to the others!
It's worth saying again:
Body shaming is cruel and wrong.
Regardless of the source!
There is no such thing as "healthy at any size" for men or "lovely and curvy" for men.
There is no such thing as "healthy at any size" for women either... but that's a MEDICAL issue! (hence the word: healthy) Thus, it should be a private matter between a man (or woman) and their physician.
The 80/20 rule is that 80% of women are deemed attractive but only 20% of men are deemed attractive.
Hmmm... I don't know what to say to that... I'm often told I'm attractive, and I'm about 30 lbs overweight and have a bald head...
I can't (and don't pretend to) speak for others... but I've been body-shamed for my weight and my hair loss... and I've also been complimented on both! I have outgrown the need to have anyone else's approval of my looks... the parts of my looks (my extra weight, for example) that I can change, I am working to change (albeit slowly - it's hard to lose weight at 57!)... the things I cannot change, I don't worry about...
But I'm not a teenage boy (or girl) trying to come to terms with my body- and self-image! That's where the real damage is done! The body-shaming of people - especially children - who aren't emotionally prepared for the cruelty of the anonymous world.
I go back to the statement above: "This is indeed an area where Social Media has been harmful to society - especially they way "mean girls" (or "mean guys") can hide behind anonymity for the most cruel and harmful posts/comments!"
