Posts made by 2222

Aquamarine

Now start with "E"

No, I don't have any piercing or tattoo.

TPBM is single and happy.

I like the list above me and I'd like to add Schitt's Creek with gay plot in it.

I rated them both 6/10 but I lean and praise more to Alex Strangelove (2018) because its an independent movie with limited budget but turned out to be a good movie, while Love, Simon (2018) with they huge budget, this movie could've been better.

I don't really remembered my first, but all I think of is Threesome (1994), this is not really a gay movie, more likely bi relationship, I was probably 13 at the time or 7 years after the initial released of this movie.

Re-watch Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)

And my rating stay strong for full fat 8/10. This is a really entertaining movie and could've won Best Picture.

Lady Gaga - Stupid Love

Youtube Video

Schitt's Creek

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Hadir

@bearbearbear:

Your comments are very sensible and I don't disagree with you.  I just ask: what's the harm in having it available here, too?  It's gay enough.  There are other torrent sites for movies but why send people elsewhere?

I already said I don't think it's important to have it here but I would also agree that it's not particularly harmful to have it here, either.  It's simply a matter of convenience for some users for a film like this.

In a discussion a while back on this site regarding non-porn films, I asked the question, "Where do you draw the line?"  I feel comfortable drawing it to exclude both The Lighthouse and The Umbrellas of Cherbourg but of course others can disagree and it doesn't bother me one way or the other what is decided.  Even being familiar with them, it would never have occurred to me to look for either of them here on a gay torrent site if I wanted to watch them again, except for this discussion.

However, I really do appreciate being able to find gay-themed films here, many of which are difficult or impossible to find elsewhere, and I think that is important.

**In the end, it's a privately-owned torrent site and the owner can do what he pleases with no obligation to explain or justify his actions.  **

Thank you so much bearbearbear, I could just kiss you now  :jiz: LOL

And that last sentence is the most excellent one! I love the way you explain this.  :thx:

@kalayaan:

Mod 2222 is competent as he can be, we mod may not agree on certain matters, but I stand by his sound decision.

As for Democracy, this is a Private gay site with the emphasis on the word private.

I agree with the last two replies.

Yes yes yes thanks my fellow Mod kalayaan  :urock:  :cheers:

We can do this!!!  :hug:

@urx585:

6. Clips instead of whole works.

Clips take time to make, and many users don't know how to make them.  They are by nature incomplete, which is unsatisfying.  Also, if nobody ever posts the whole movie, nobody will be able to make clips from it!

Asking users to clip out the sexy parts of interesting movies is asking them to do work.  People are lazy, and don't like to work.  It's easier to post the whole thing, unaltered.  Also, I prefer whole movies.  I'm not the only one.

There some user who passionately excellent at this job and I will make all of their torrents freeleech in short time. Maybe you don't know how to make them or you're lazy, or you are both, but people are not lazy and not stupid, don't judge people using your own standard. If you don't know how to make them, enjoy whats being provided, if you can't find it look somewhere else, like many smart user will do, instead to push something with force to change the rules just to meet your own agenda. I think you are the lazy one, my personal opinion.

@urx585:

7. We should be getting movies from other torrent sites.

and

8 ) The site owner doesn't want more torrents.

I don't believe I've ever interacted with the GTRU site owner(s), but I have worked with lots of corporate site owners.  They want:

More and better content,
  which attracts more users,
    which creates more traffic,
       which leads to more revenue (via donations, subscriptions, or advertisements)

My proposals would increase the amount of interesting content in four ways:

1. Rare and/or obscure and/or non-English language films with that are significant to the gay community will be much less likely to be deleted, so more users will be able to find them.

2. Users who like straight porn, and want to see more straight porn with better lighting and longer scripts (i.e. themed movies with unsimulated straight sex) will be able to find more of that content under Straight Younger and Straight Older.  Because these movies will not be in the Themed Movie category, the traditional Themed Movie users will not be bothered.

3. Users who want to see hot naked guys on screen will be able to find more content under the Voyeur category.  Because these movies will not be in the Themed Movie category, the traditional Themed Movie users will not be bothered.  (Voyeur is from voir, "to see".  It seems to be the perfect category for watching hot naked guys.  But if that isn't acceptable, these could go under "Softcore" instead.  That category is rarely used.)

4. Users who want to see more classic films that relate to the history of fabulousness (i.e. drag) will be able to find more torrents of this type.  These will be posted in Themed Movies, and I don't think most of the traditional Themed Movie users will be bothered by this either… but if they are, they'll have a place to comment and complain!

Because this site is indexed in google, the site owner(s) can expect more new memberships, as people search for a copy of a rare movie they want to see, and find that it's available only here.  That's how I found this site, through a google search for a rare title.

Thank you for your suggestion, we'll take this to the boss, but at the moment, HERE AND NOW, the Mods will follow the current written rules, which number 1-4 falls under gay interest which is against the rules. You said time so many times, no need no more, we got it.

@urx585:

5. Google can help with the gray areas.
   Gray areas are real.  Gray areas are a matter of interpretation.  Crowd-sourcing works.  The opinion of many GTRU users will be superior to the opinion of any one user.

Every discussions is open in every torrent comment box. If I'm not the one who is starting them, I read them all especially in Themed and TV category, and take a weight in every contributions. But I'm the one who decide, yes or no, stay or delete. This is not about superiority but its about job description. This is the numerous times you question my ability and competence, and I'm tired to explain myself every time, but you seems do not want to hear it, so fuck it, I don't give a fuck what you believe. Forgive my words, but I need to say it. If you don't like me personally, make a petition and submit it to the site. In the meantime I'll do my job whether you like it or not.

@bc22:

In some parts of the world, it can be offensive to call someone out on any form of competency. Perhaps if one must, maybe a better phrase could be something like Culturally Aware.

That's an excellent better term!

@bearbearbear:

Hitchcock's Rope is a good example of that.  The two main characters are obviously gay in subtle subtext but when the film was made, some straight people were probably oblivious to that.  The characters are overtly gay in the play the film was based on.

@cinemacapman:

2, Once again I have to state that Hitchcock's Rope belongs here. Period. The two main characters are as gay as they could possibly be for a late 40's movie…they're certainly prissy enough. The movie has also always been included in any book I've ever read on the subject of the history of gay cinema, particularly in legendary author Vito Russo's seminal classic The Celluloid Closet.

I think it is belong to the site, I just read an article about it here https://www.indiewire.com/2014/03/haysd-decoding-the-classics-rope-214547/, to ensure myself. Thoug, I've seen the movie long time ago, probably inspired by The Celluloid Closet, and I do agree that there is a strong gay subtexy between the two main characters. Hitchcock just couldn't do it more explicit because the time it was released.

I just made this one freelech https://www.gaytorrent.ru/details.php?id=b5b4ac403b9917241ea5c725ec39d434ee547b24d432b57a

@urx585:

And of course this is a democracy!  Torrents are alive or dead because people choose to seed them.  Torrents are posted because people choose to share them.  There is nothing autocratic about this site, except that one moderator has total control over which gray-area postings are kept and deleted.  That's why we're getting random results.

@2222 – wouldn't your job be a lot easier if you didn't have to make any decisions about Themed Movies, because the users were making them for you, in their own spare time?  Wouldn't that save you a lot of work?  Wouldn't it be nice to say that every decision you make has the support of the majority of GTRU users?

Are you serious? suggesting this and called me autocratic? Even the most democratic country in this world, USA, all decision came from one the president, he may have many helpers but he's the who decide all and if his decision in line of the written Laws, do you call him as autocratic?

It won't save work, it means gave away my work. If you think I always close my ears and eyes to other opinion except mine (I think this is the reason why you called me as autocratic, because I refuse to hear one of yours while I was just standing in rules and started all this), ask around, I also have limitation, in that case I ask for help, and that help could come from users, my mentor, Google, critics, and many different forms and that's my job and responsibility. But the way you suggesting it, for example its like I'm the manager, Im the CEO but I give away the work to be decided by someone else, than why do I exist all at, I'm stupid or what?

@urx585:

Does Call me by your name and moonlight count? I mean for gay themed movies, since that's the entire theme of each of the films.

1. What is a main character?  How much screen time separates a major character from a moderately important character?  What are the agreed-upon methods for distinguishing the two?

2. What is LGBT?  Do closeted gays count as LGBT?  What if they are in denial and won't admit that they are gay to themselves?  What if the movie constantly suggests that they are gay, but never affirms it?

3. How much LGBT-oriented writing is required to meet the rules?  What if the character is openly LGBT but that has nothing to do with the plot development?

4. How do we deal with movies that arguably have gay main characters, but were made before openly gay characters were allowed?

That last one is particularly difficult because it requires the most cultural competence – in this case, knowedge of the way that specific societies have treated their LGBT members over time.  We are sure that the master-at-arms in Billy Budd is a closeted/repressed gay, because he is portrayed in ways that were used, at the time of the portrayal, to indicate queerness without being explicit.  This is true of both the book and the film.

OH MY GOD!!!!!! This is way out of the line. Do we need to even discuss the interpretation of 'What is a main character' 'What is LGBT' here? Look around, search around the web, Google it! Are you unable to find it? Or did you find it but not a result that you want it, so you ask it here to fish someone out to make mistake and then use it as a weapon? Or do you need me to make a paper and assist you through it all?

What if the character is openly LGBT but that has nothing to do with the plot development?

And this! I just caught someone who didn't even read the rules but bragging to the world he has he best idea in the world with strong force want to change the rules.

The rules clearly stated

All non-porn material must be LGBTQ themed by its main plot and characters or contain a recurring LBGTQ subplot. Gay-interest, an openly gay actor or minor gay references are insufficient to meet this requirement. Also acceptable are non-porn films involving voyeurism of the adult male physique. Examples of voyeuristic material include bodybuilding, wrestling and underwear/swimwear.

Do you understand it or do I need to explain that sentence to you?

@urx585:

Basic proposal:
0) The mods can still immediately delete anything that obviously doesn't belong here.

1. When someone posts a movie or show that may not be gay enough, create a forum topic with the title and release year.

2. Put in that torrent's comments: "We're not sure this is LGBT enough to belong here, but we'd like your opinion, especially if you speak the language and grew up in the country of origin for this work.  If you think this should be kept, or removed, share your opinion here: <forum link="">"

3. Give it a week.  What's the rush?  If it disappears because of DMCA in the meantime… problem solved!

4. Look at the opinions.  Give extra weight to the opinions from people with matching cultural competencies.  If they think it's gay enough, it should stay.  Otherwise, go with the majority opinion.</forum>

0. What a mod can do and can't its completely in the hands of the site's owner. Even I can't do anything about it, so its obvious, so you don't need to suggest anything like that, it looks like you makes Joker like a stupid person.

1. I won't do that. Earlier you said want to make my job easier, but now you're asking otherwise. This will load my job ever more because I have to create a Forum every time something happen, a Forum that probably you won't even visit.

2. I do that all the time, but you probably didn't see it or you refuse to see. That's the function of the torrent comment box, we can share and discuss everything about the torrent in there. I cover all torrents in general and that's one of the process in my moderating job, I even private message the torrent owner for various cases asking their personal opinion to help me with the case.

3. Agreed, but only for classic movies that need cultural competencies. Once again I repeat, ONLY FOR CLASSIC MOVIES THAT NEED CULTURAL COMPETENCIES. Not gay interest and other insufficient to meet the requirement, its against the rules and I don't want to explain it over and over and over again because its clear.

And I hope this end here because its all clear.

@bearbearbear:

@urx585:

4. How do we deal with movies that arguably have gay main characters, but were made before openly gay characters were allowed?

That last one is particularly difficult because it requires the most cultural competence – in this case, knowedge of the way that specific societies have treated their LGBT members over time.  We are sure that the master-at-arms in Billy Budd is a closeted/repressed gay, because he is portrayed in ways that were used, at the time of the portrayal, to indicate queerness without being explicit.  This is true of both the book and the film.

Hitchcock's Rope is a good example of that.  The two main characters are obviously gay in subtle subtext but when the film was made, some straight people were probably oblivious to that.  The characters are overtly gay in the play the film was based on.

A more recent example that would be difficult to classify is The Lighthouse.  I would probably classify it as homoerotic and not gay-themed, but it could be reasonably argued either way, and in fact there are two torrents of the film here already.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-lighthouse-homoeroticism-robert-pattinson-willem-dafoe_n_5da9c888e4b0e71d65b801ae

Its not difficult at all, its all about reading from legitimate source. Like the article you provide about the The Lighthouse and that's one of the ways of some process that I do every time I moderate a 'doubtful' Themed/Tv torrent. The article, which feature conversation with the movie director and 2 main actors, stated the script is gay but the director was more like "Forget about complexities of human sexuality or their particular inclinations. I’m more about questions than answers in this movie," approach and that's called homoeroticism when we see the picture movie.

many of those movies from Judy Garland (for example) are so widely and easily found on hundreds of other sites

agreed, so as many other gay interest movie, like I said above there are plenty other torrent sites that provide that kind of stuffs.

but I don't see any real reason for something like Meet Me In St. Louis to be here

I will look this one up, thanks.

And one more, to let this all open. This is first post of urx585, complaining my ability to handle torrent moderation.

https://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=62640.msg327173#msg327173

If I'm wrong in my moderation, I admit it and apologize and correct my wrongdoing. We are human and no one is perfect. But this one, when I stand to keep the rules, he keep force his own will and desire, he actually attack me in torrent comment, the first torrent link the post above, and that torrent actually still alive here in the site in Mods' chamber, they still can see and read it.