Detransitioner speaks

blablarg18

"I thought that in the end I could become a man but all I became was a mutilated and abused version of myself."

Detransitioner Katie Lennon who transitioned at 18, including hormones, a double mastectomy, and a full hysterectomy at 21...

https://twitter.com/ChoooCole/status/1648674547241975813

BTW this all shows how regressive, yes REGRESSIVE, Trans is.

What's wrong with a woman simply being manly? (Nothing.)

Why would a manly woman need hormones & mutilation? (She doesn't.)

Why is society in 2023 pushing 18th-century gender stereotypes on people, with hormones & mutilation?

hubrys

How common is transgender treatment regret, detransitioning?

HOW OFTEN DO TRANSGENDER PEOPLE REGRET TRANSITIONING?

In updated treatment guidelines issued last year, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health said evidence of later regret is scant, but that patients should be told about the possibility during psychological counseling.

Dutch research from several years ago found no evidence of regret in transgender adults who had comprehensive psychological evaluations in childhood before undergoing puberty blockers and hormone treatment.

Some studies suggest that rates of regret have declined over the years as patient selection and treatment methods have improved. In a review of 27 studies involving almost 8,000 teens and adults who had transgender surgeries, mostly in Europe, the U.S and Canada, 1% on average expressed regret. For some, regret was temporary, but a small number went on to have detransitioning or reversal surgeries, the 2021 review said.

Research suggests that comprehensive psychological counseling before starting treatment, along with family support, can reduce chances for regret and detransitioning.

raphjd

@hubrys

I would agree with you that psychological treatment is the key, but as we've seen in cases around the world (mainly western world) is that there is a rush to trans these kids.

Many kids are transed at extremely early ages, when they don't even understand gravity, let alone gender.

Jazz was transed at 4.

The most famous case in the UK, they girl was put on hormones and had her tits cut off after three 30-minute sessions with a councilor.

Most of this trans crap came from the Canadian boy who had his penis cut off in a botched infant male genital mutilation, so the doctor said to raise him as a girl. That ended in absolute disaster.

blablarg18

Nobody cared about Trans until they starting sexualizing and/or mutilating kids.

I was a Trans supporter way back when

it wasn't cool
it was about individual rights... individuals working out their mental illness in their own way

The trannies I supported carried guns & promoted responsible gun education.

And so far as I would know, they NEVER tried to get with kids, or talk kids & parents into mutilating the kids' bodies.

raphjd

@blablarg18

I still support trans people.

I do not support freaks, though, and there is a huge difference.

blablarg18

@raphjd Cool.

As to this @hubrys garbage remark:

World Professional Association for Transgender Health said evidence of later regret is scant

That's the Lysenko-ism I mentioned somewhere, the biased & political "science".

In the real world: Trans suicide rates either stay equal, OR GO UP, post-surgery.

Also known as widespread & extreme regret.

hubrys

@blablarg18 said in Detransitioner speaks:

In the real world: Trans suicide rates either stay equal, OR GO UP, post-surgery.
Also known as widespread & extreme regret.

Where's your statistics on that? Or do you think, just because it agrees with your philosophy, that it must be true?

blablarg18

@hubrys Hey lazybones. Start by reflecting on the fact that so-called "sex change" or "sex reassignment" surgery does not actually change or reassign anything - it only removes, slices & dices.

Then: Learn to use a search engine.

I did both.

And you must remove the wax from your own ears. I can't. Because we both know you'd never let me.

PS ur a lawyer, right? Just as there's now huge money in getting people to transition, there's about to be (next few years) huge money in the lawsuits afterward. Get in early.

hubrys

@blablarg18

New Study Shows Transgender People Who Receive Gender-Affirming Surgery Are Significantly Less Likely To Experience Psychological Distress Or Suicidal Ideation

The study, titled “Association Between Gender-Affirming Surgeries and Mental Health Outcomes,” compared the psychological distress, substance use, and suicide risk of 3,559 transgender people who had undergone gender-affirming surgery with those of 16,401 transgender people who desired gender-affirming surgery but had not yet undergone any. It found that transgender people who had received one or more gender-affirming surgical procedures had a 42% reduction in the odds of experiencing past-month psychological distress, a 35% reduction in the odds of past-year tobacco smoking, and a 44% reduction in the odds of past-year suicidal ideation.

blablarg18

@hubrys As I've explained elsewhere, Trans so-called "science" is famously, FAMOUSLY, politicized, biased, whitewashed.

We learned from covid that even JAMA does bad "science" & deserves doubt.

So please take your fake Lysenko-ist study & cram it.

FTM Matt Rey: "I have experienced side effects...that I would not wish on my worst enemy...that even doctors were not knowledgeable enough to tell me about."

https://twitter.com/itsmattrey/status/1625309584880717824

"Trying to be happy whilst living with this regret is a constant struggle. My body spasms have become more frequent. I wish I never fell for the lies of 'gender affirming care' I wish all of this pain would stop.
These monsters medicalizing kids deserve to rot behind bars."

https://twitter.com/itsmattrey/status/1653777419323703296

That regret does not sound "scant" to me.

Or what about Kayleigh Scott?

https://thepostmillennial.com/trans-flight-attendent-dead-from-suicide-after-being-featured-in-united-airlines-ad

Sounds like suicidal ideation.

Kayleigh Scott - Say her name, @hubrys !

Say her name!

While you're at it, tell me - is the following a Genuine Man(tm)?
Or example of extreme self-harm?

(Note: Picture was taken in public and, under rules for shirtless MEN in public, is acceptable worldwide. Twitter allowed it - and, I believe, did not even 'warn' it.)

With exceptions - Exceptions for genuine intersex, XXY, hermaphrodite etc. -
Those proper exceptions aside, the majority of Trans surgeries today are examples in and of themselves of self-hate and, you could say, self-murder.

OF COURSE the person is going to regret them - Later on, to the extent their mental health improves. And to the extent that someone asks them honestly.

Mental health issues - like Gender Dysphoria, Body Dysmorphia, anorexia, self-cutting, etc. - are not cured by surgery.

Western society, with Trans surgeries booming, is about to learn all this in hard way.

hubrys

@blablarg18 said in Detransitioner speaks:

As I've explained elsewhere, Trans so-called "science" is famously, FAMOUSLY, politicized, biased, whitewashed.

So, what I'm reading is that you reject modern statistical science, and instead think we should rely on cherry-picked anecdotal science. I see...you're a moron then? Well, that's cleared up then.

raphjd

@hubrys

Is that the same science that said that the covid vaxx PREVENTS us fro catching and spreading covid?

Is that the same science that said that masks work?

Is that the same science that said that lockdowns work?

Is that the same science that said we would be currently living in the planet's worst-ever ice age and all the other predictions about the climate?

Science lies for political motives.

NARF lied because they're were homophobes and others lie for their political goals.

blablarg18

@raphjd "Science lies for political motives" - And financial even more.

But libs call that "modern"! Libs approve.

@hubrys Look at the pic again.

Can you see the obvious - using your own eyes, forgetting ur lib ideology 1 minute - that it's a pic of extreme self-harm?

PS. I'll post studies when I think you're capable of hearing them.

Already explained to you that, at present, I think you're not.

Right now, you can't even look at a pic of self-harm - something any mentally healthy person would regret - and see the self-harm.

blablarg18

@hubrys PPS. Be glad it wasn't a pic of, say, a girl's forearm being "harvested" ie. cut to the bone for tissues to fashion her a non-penis that will never deliver cum to any gay guy's holes.

raphjd

@blablarg18

blablarg18

@raphjd Yes. Was afraid to post it.

Countless real people have -horrible- experiences with Trans surgery a.k.a. medical mutilation..... and the lib goes "That's anecdotal! And no reason to keep it from kids! And the regret is scant!"

And even the "lawyer" in him won't spot his business opportunity.

Spintendo

@blablarg18 said in Detransitioner speaks:

As I've explained elsewhere, Trans so-called "science" is famously, FAMOUSLY, politicized, biased, whitewashed.

That sounds a lot like "shoot the messenger" to me. Where is your evidence that it is "famously politicized biased and whitewashed"? Postmillenial.com?

I see with your link to them, youve decided to help bankroll the good people of Macedonia as well. Good for you! With any luck the admins of that site will be able to build their new 3,000sq ft home in Veles.

Spintendo

No wait, my bad, that was resist the mainstream.com that bankrolls Macedonia. Post millennial.com was the one with the 30-year-old information.

Spintendo

@blablarg18

Here are 16 studies which show where gender transitioning care led to better mental health outcomes. Are all these medical publications wrong? And if they are wrong, where is your evidence that they're wrong?

De Vries, A. L., Steensma, T. D., Doreleijers, T. A., & Cohen‐Kettenis, P. T. (2011). Puberty suppression in adolescents with gender identity disorder: A prospective follow‐up study. The Journal of Sexual Medicine, 8(8), 2276-2283.
De Vries, A. L., McGuire, J. K., Steensma, T. D., Wagenaar, E. C., Doreleijers, T. A., & Cohen-Kettenis, P. T. (2014). Young adult psychological outcome after puberty suppression and gender reassignment. Pediatrics, 134(4), 696-704.
Costa, R., Dunsford, M., Skagerberg, E., Holt, V., Carmichael, P., & Colizzi, M. (2015). Psychological support, puberty suppression, and psychosocial functioning in adolescents with gender dysphoria. The Journal of Sexual Medicine, 12(11), 2206-2214.
Allen, L. R., Watson, L. B., Egan, A. M., & Moser, C. N. (2019). Well-being and suicidality among transgender youth after gender-affirming hormones. Clinical Practice in Pediatric Psychology, 7(3), 302.
Kaltiala, R., Heino, E., Työläjärvi, M., & Suomalainen, L. (2020). Adolescent development and psychosocial functioning after starting cross-sex hormones for gender dysphoria. Nordic Journal of Psychiatry, 74(3), 213-219.
de Lara, D. L., Rodríguez, O. P., Flores, I. C., Masa, J. L. P., Campos-Muñoz, L., Hernández, M. C., & Amador, J. T. R. (2020). Psychosocial assessment in transgender adolescents. Anales de Pediatría (English Edition), 93(1), 41-48.
van der Miesen, A. I., Steensma, T. D., de Vries, A. L., Bos, H., & Popma, A. (2020). Psychological functioning in transgender adolescents before and after gender-affirmative care compared with cisgender general population peers. Journal of Adolescent Health, 66(6), 699-704.
Achille, C., Taggart, T., Eaton, N. R., Osipoff, J., Tafuri, K., Lane, A., & Wilson, T. A. (2020). Longitudinal impact of gender-affirming endocrine intervention on the mental health and well-being of transgender youths: preliminary results. International Journal of Pediatric Endocrinology, 2020(1), 1-5.
Kuper, L. E., Stewart, S., Preston, S., Lau, M., & Lopez, X. (2020). Body dissatisfaction and mental health outcomes of youth on gender-affirming hormone therapy. Pediatrics, 145(4).
Turban, J. L., King, D., Carswell, J. M., & Keuroghlian, A. S. (2020). Pubertal suppression for transgender youth and risk of suicidal ideation. Pediatrics, 145(2).
Carmichael, P., Butler, G., Masic, U., Cole, T. J., De Stavola, B. L., Davidson, S., ... & Viner, R. M. (2021). Short-term outcomes of pubertal suppression in a selected cohort of 12 to 15 year old young people with persistent gender dysphoria in the UK. PLoS One, 16(2), e0243894.
Grannis, C., Leibowitz, S. F., Gahn, S., Nahata, L., Morningstar, M., Mattson, W. I., ... & Nelson, E. E. (2021). Testosterone treatment, internalizing symptoms, and body image dissatisfaction in transgender boys. Psychoneuroendocrinology, 132, 105358.
Hisle-Gorman, E., Schvey, N. A., Adirim, T. A., Rayne, A. K., Susi, A., Roberts, T. A., & Klein, D. A. (2021). Mental healthcare utilization of transgender youth before and after affirming treatment. The Journal of Sexual Medicine, 18(8), 1444-1454.
Green, A. E., DeChants, J. P., Price, M. N., & Davis, C. K. (2021). Association of gender-affirming hormone therapy with depression, thoughts of suicide, and attempted suicide among transgender and nonbinary youth. Journal of Adolescent Health.
Turban, J. L., King, D., Kobe, J., Reisner, S. L., & Keuroghlian, A. S. (2022). Access to gender-affirming hormones during adolescence and mental health outcomes among transgender adults. PLoS One, 17(1), e0261039.
Tordoff, D. M., Wanta, J. W., Collin, A., Stephney, C., Inwards-Breland, D. J., Ahrens, K. (2022) Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care. JAMA Network Open, 5(2), e220978.

raphjd

@Spintendo

You're still a whiny sniveling bitch and a racist.