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    • K
      Kekkaishi last edited by

      I have some words that I hear sometimes that are pronounced differently. Therefore I'm not sure what is the correct way to pronounce these words.
      I will write the word and then the 2 variations phonetically for better understanding

      Ideology: E-diology or I-dioloty

      Either: E-ther or I-ther

      Devisive: di-VI-sive or di-VAI-sive

      Beyond: be-Yo-nd or be-O-nd

      Resource -> re-So-rce or re-Zo-urce

      So which is it?
      thanks.

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      • john32123666
        john32123666 last edited by john32123666

        I suggest do a web search on this ...
        As most of us has different nationality from accent and pronunciation ... 😊

        plus there are various types of English

        1. American English
        2. English English or British English ...
          Australian English. ...Canadian English. ...Indian English. ...
          Philippine English. ...Ugandan English.
          https://cudoo.com/blog/different-varieties-of-english-language/
          and most of all, the important thing is the spelling ...
          [don't ask about sycology & k-mistry] LOL ...

        Youtube Video

        RELATED ONLINE SOURCE: https://www.dictionary.com/e/fluency/

        [œùæ] : " Mahirap mag dunong dunongan, Kung wala kang kaalam alam " ...

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        • raphjd
          raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

          Both are right and both are wrong, depending on your accent.

          Z; Zee in the US and Zed in the UK

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          • T
            Tychsy89 last edited by

            a lot of words it depends on region.

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            • K
              Kekkaishi last edited by

              So which pronunciation is the American?

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              • raphjd
                raphjd Forum Administrator @Kekkaishi last edited by

                @Kekkaishi said in English Words Pronunciation:

                So which pronunciation is the American?

                It's not that simple, since both are used in the US and UK depending on where you live.

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                • bi4smooth
                  bi4smooth @Kekkaishi last edited by bi4smooth

                  @Kekkaishi said in English Words Pronunciation:

                  I have some words that I hear sometimes that are pronounced differently. Therefore I'm not sure what is the correct way to pronounce these words.
                  I will write the word and then the 2 variations phonetically for better understanding

                  Ideology: E-diology or I-dioloty

                  Either: E-ther or I-ther

                  Devisive: di-VI-sive or di-VAI-sive

                  Beyond: be-Yo-nd or be-O-nd

                  Resource -> re-So-rce or re-Zo-urce

                  So which is it?
                  thanks.

                  You have discovered why English is such a difficult language to learn...

                  In some examples, the different pronunciations have different meanings:

                  • read (verb, pronounced: red) is the past tense of read (verb, pronounced reed), which is to "look at and comprehend the meaning of written material"
                    For example: He had read (red) "To Kill a Mockingbird" earlier that year, so he had no difficulty when he was asked to read (reed) it out loud in class.
                  • Plus, there is read (noun, pronounced reed) that is "someone's understanding of a topic or event"
                    For example: The General's read (reed) on the battle was eventually proven correct"
                  • Then there's read (adjective, pronounced red) denoting a high level of understanding
                    For example: He is well read (red) in the Greek Classical Poetry - making him a total bore at parties!
                  • And finally, there is the location on the board game Monopoly: Reading Railroad - (pronounced correctly as red-ding)

                  Then, there's the famous song from Gershwins' "Shall We Dance" called "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off" where the on-screen couple argues about English word pronunciations:

                  Things have come to a pretty pass
                  Our romance is growing flat,
                  For you like this and the other
                  While I go for this and that,
                  Goodness knows what the end will be
                  Oh I don't know where I'm at
                  It looks as if we two will never be one
                  Something must be done:
                  You say either and I say either,
                  You say neither and I say neither
                  Either, either neither, neither
                  Let's call the whole thing off.
                  You like potato and I like potahto
                  You like tomato and I like tomahto
                  Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto.
                  Let's call the whole thing off
                  But oh, if we call the whole thing off
                  Then we must part
                  And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart
                  So if you like pyjamas and I like pyjahmas,
                  I'll wear pyjamas and give up pyajahmas
                  For we know we need each other so we
                  Better call the whole thing off
                  Let's call the whole thing off.
                  You say laughter and I say larfter
                  You say after and I say arfter
                  Laughter, larfter after arfter
                  Let's call the whole thing off,
                  You like vanilla and I like vanella
                  You saspiralla, and I saspirella
                  Vanilla vanella chocolate strawberry
                  Let's call the whole thing off
                  But oh if we call the whole thing of then we must part
                  And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart
                  So if you go for oysters and I go for ersters
                  I'll order oysters and cancel the ersters
                  For we know we need each other so we
                  Better call the calling off off,
                  Let's call the whole thing off.
                  I say father, and you say pater,
                  I saw mother and you say mater
                  Pater, mater uncle, auntie let's call the whole thing off.
                  I like bananas and you like banahnahs
                  I say havana and I get havahnah
                  Bananas, banahnahs havana, havahnah
                  Go your way, I'll go mine
                  So if I go for scallops and you go for lobsters,
                  So all right no contest we'll order lobseter
                  For we know we need each other so we
                  Better call the calling off off,
                  Let's call the whole thing off.

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                    kimbobo last edited by

                    what everybody has already said but i wanted to link this website i really like. i'm a big language geek and it's fun to hear how different regions speak https://www.dialectsarchive.com/

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                    • Dracula975
                      Dracula975 @Kekkaishi last edited by

                      @Kekkaishi said in English Words Pronunciation:

                      I have some words that I hear sometimes that are pronounced differently. Therefore I'm not sure what is the correct way to pronounce these words.
                      I will write the word and then the 2 variations phonetically for better understanding

                      Ideology: E-diology or I-dioloty

                      Either: E-ther or I-ther

                      Devisive: di-VI-sive or di-VAI-sive

                      Beyond: be-Yo-nd or be-O-nd

                      Resource -> re-So-rce or re-Zo-urce

                      So which is it?
                      thanks.

                      Born and raised in the USA and having lived for a long time in a region of the USA where there is little or no accent, I can offer what I feel is the "common" pronunciation from my experience:

                      I-dee-ology although I have heard Id-eology (like the psychology word id) spoken frequently, but that may be just a more posh pronunciation.

                      E-ther and I-ther are both spoken nearly equally. E-ther is probably more commonly used, and I-ther may be a bit more posh.

                      de-VI-sive

                      be-Yond

                      Re-source

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                        Kekkaishi @Dracula975 last edited by

                        @Dracula975 Thanks!

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                        • bi4smooth
                          bi4smooth @Kekkaishi last edited by bi4smooth

                          @Kekkaishi

                          E-ther vs I-ther pronunciation for me is use-case:

                          "You can E-ther have cake or ice cream, but not both"

                          vs.

                          "No, I didn't like that move all that much I-ther"

                          There I go - screwing up the English language again! My middle-school English teacher (who almost failed me!) would be so proud! LOL

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                            Kekkaishi @bi4smooth last edited by

                            @bi4smooth I remember an encounter many years ago where I worked as cashier at a drug store.
                            A customer enters who speaks English natively. I don't remember the details but he asked me a question (in English of course) and I answered using the word "either" (pronounced I-ther) in regards to comparing two products or something. The weird thing is that he seemed to not understand my meaning of the word, not until I used E-ther to "correct" mysellf.
                            But most likely I misused the word altogether in a sentence

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                            • bi4smooth
                              bi4smooth @Kekkaishi last edited by

                              @Kekkaishi said in English Words Pronunciation:

                              @bi4smooth I remember an encounter many years ago where I worked as cashier at a drug store.
                              A customer enters who speaks English natively. I don't remember the details but he asked me a question (in English of course) and I answered using the word "either" (pronounced I-ther) in regards to comparing two products or something. The weird thing is that he seemed to not understand my meaning of the word, not until I used E-ther to "correct" mysellf.
                              But most likely I misused the word altogether in a sentence

                              I would fault the customer there - E-ther and I-ther pronunciations are generally considered interchangeable in English... I don't think there are "rules" about when one gets used vs. the other.

                              My example above wasn't intended to say one was correct and the other not, rather that I personally use both pronunciations!

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