Trudeau says Canada will stand against authoritarianism
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https://rumble.com/vvme9p-trudeau-says-canada-will-stand-against-authoritarianism..html
It's comical that Trudeau is against authoritarianism everywhere else in the world, but not in Canada.
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Haha that is funny
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Trudope is clueless
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Y'all are morons - of the highest (or lowest) caliber!
Trudeau may be a Liberal, and he may want to FORCE people to protect themselves and others against COVID (thankfully, the need for that seems to be abating ... for now), but he's nothing like Putin and Russia.
And for you to want to compare the two is hilariously idiotic.
That you would stoop so low, just because he's a political rival - in a free and fair, democratic (small d) society is a clear indication of where your education stopped... 3rd Grade, maybe?
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@bi4smooth said in Trudeau says Canada will stand against authoritarianism:
Y'all are morons - of the highest (or lowest) caliber!
Trudeau may be a Liberal, and he may want to FORCE people to protect themselves and others against COVID (thankfully, the need for that seems to be abating ... for now), but he's nothing like Putin and Russia.
And for you to want to compare the two is hilariously idiotic.
That you would stoop so low, just because he's a political rival - in a free and fair, democratic (small d) society is a clear indication of where your education stopped... 3rd Grade, maybe?
Once again, you are name-calling to defend liberal authoritarianism.
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@raphjd said in Trudeau says Canada will stand against authoritarianism:
@bi4smooth said in Trudeau says Canada will stand against authoritarianism:
Y'all are morons - of the highest (or lowest) caliber!
Trudeau may be a Liberal, and he may want to FORCE people to protect themselves and others against COVID (thankfully, the need for that seems to be abating ... for now), but he's nothing like Putin and Russia.
And for you to want to compare the two is hilariously idiotic.
That you would stoop so low, just because he's a political rival - in a free and fair, democratic (small d) society is a clear indication of where your education stopped... 3rd Grade, maybe?
Once again, you are name-calling to defend liberal authoritarianism.
No - I am not excusing Trudeau's overreach - I've called it out here before.
But was his overreach worse than Trump's (albeit in other areas) or Biden's (in the SAME area)??? NO!
The point wasn't whether Trudeau overstepped his authority in Canadian law and society - it's that he's not comparable to Putin and what he's doing now!
In very many (scarily many) ways, Putin's behavior here mirror's Hitlers when he invaded Poland, and just before he invaded Norway and Belgium. (Esp in the excuses he's giving for doing so...)
As a free world, we can stand up against this kind of thing - and sacrifice lives now - or, we can cater and cowtow to them and lose everything later. The choice is up to our leaders.
In 50 years, will Putin be the "Great Father" or the "Reviled Dictator"? Personally, I'd rather it be "forgotten footnote", but that'd require a very VERY skilled sniper!
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I'll Still be voting Liberal next election. People make choices not to put vaccines in their body, but that choice has responsibilities, much like the choice in doing so. I'm glad there's been protest, but not to linger about in your trucks for weeks and block other businesses that are not in your corner. Happily it's 20% of the population that is extremist leaning. I mean, this has very little to do with freedom. Most people are just spoiled brats. Trumpists are the same. I am glad Trump can't run again - not unless he can make those two federal cases disappear against him. I'm also surprised this site wants to change it's name from Russian? Russian nationals aren't the problem; Putin and his oligarchs are.
You are limited by the news you like.
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Ah, so BLM and Antifa are good, but truckers are bad.
The vaccine does not prevent people from getting or spreading the virus, despite the lies we were told at the beginning. A fully vaccinated person can still catch and spread the virus.
Have you seen the photos of you Dear Leader without his mask? I have. He, like so many liberal leaders, is a hypocrite.
Of course, I won't mention that you support a person who frequently dressed in black and brown face.
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@raphjd Exactly. And not enough people are talking about what I believe was the lie of the year. They said that the vaccines would stop the spread and they made rules/mandates based on those laws. They discriminated a big part of the population based on a lie, and in some countries you couldn't even go to the gym and take care of your health because you were unvaccinated. But people still use arguments as if the vaccines stop the spread, and what's worse is they are mostly the people who also want to ban anyone who doesn't agree with their views because of "misinformation".
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@raphjd No, the vaccine doesn't Stop you from getting the virus but it mitigates severity. Despite being told this from the beginning there are always a section of population that won't listen or comprehend. They are doomed to think what they want to and that's O.K.
I don't know what straw-man argument you're going for about some random photo of the PM with or without his mask on because it always depends on data not present in the photo. We seized large truck trailer full of guns because a bunch of "fuck-the-shit-up" extremist have joined the truckers and painted the whole thing with a terrorist-inclined tone, hence we handled this as we saw fit. I also don't appreciate dollars coming into my country from nutbar radical right-wingers from the U.S. and trying to meddle with our politics since we don't do that to the U.S..
You are limited by the news you like.
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@wade2520 said in Trudeau says Canada will stand against authoritarianism:
@raphjd Exactly. And not enough people are talking about what I believe was the lie of the year. They said that the vaccines would stop the spread and they made rules/mandates based on those laws. They discriminated a big part of the population based on a lie, and in some countries you couldn't even go to the gym and take care of your health because you were unvaccinated. But people still use arguments as if the vaccines stop the spread, and what's worse is they are mostly the people who also want to ban anyone who doesn't agree with their views because of "misinformation".
Just because YOU think it's a big lie doesn't mean it is. You're allowed to spew your ignorance, but ultimately someone else will have the facts while you hold onto your tightly-held opinion. And for your clarity, A big part of the population is actually vaccinated. The SMALL population of 20 some percent are the unvaccinated based on their logical or illogical reasons.
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You are wrong.
It's been discussed here many times before. We were originally told that the vaxx would prevent us from getting/spreading covid.
Trudeau has been photoed/videoed without a mask, despite his mandates for his own people. It's not just him, but all world leaders.
It's like the BBC posting doom and gloom about covid and not wearing masks, but oddly there was a video of them in their office building and none of them were wearing masks. The video is here in the Politics section.
OK, so some ass clowns joined in. But did the truckers do any of the violence BLM and Antifa did and still do? Your government gives them money while calling truckers "domestic terrorists".
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We could beat around this all day. All world leaders do have their human inabilities to maintain a consistency throughout this "REAL" pandemic. So for someone who's dead against this or that are naturally ONLY going to see the inconsistencies as a big deal breaker. We've had peaceful demonstrations, but we're being cautious over the discovery of weapons and money from gofundme. The matter is resolved, the truckers were moved on to allow businesses to return to the areas they were blocking, the mask mandate remains in place but vaccine passports are now at the discretion of shop owners and restos alike and full capacities have returned for now. I'll tell you this, any leader from any political side would have handled this in pretty much the same fashion. Leaders from many countries are farting around- then again, of course they would: they're human and they're also not capable of understanding virology. Most of us aren't either.
When you're inside the thick of a pandemic, there are many things we're going to be told at first. YES it would have been great when told we would design a vaccine that would prevent it, but we couldn't. YES we could have tried to not release this vaccine option and continue to research for a vaccine that would completely eradicate this virus, but that would have meant closing down to longer periods and the world economies weren't brave enough for that. Most of us live outside China and wouldn't appreciate our apartment doors being welded shut to keep us from exiting... When the "vaccine solution came out, it would only do the best they could come up with in the time frame and thus this is what we have. It does some things to mitigate severity and not overwhelm healthcare structures. Only those unvaccinated have had to turn around and admit they almost died because they ended up getting it full strength and survived by the skin of their teeth. You have to stop reading everything at face value. It makes you limited. -
@raphjd said in Trudeau says Canada will stand against authoritarianism:
It's been discussed here many times before. We were originally told that the vaxx would prevent us from getting/spreading covid.
You continue to be a whore to your Russian masters... forever more!
We've been through this before:
The COVID-19 vaccines do exactly what every other vaccine does, and has done, since 1798 (the first smallpox vaccine - the first ever human vaccine - was invented in 1798).
Let's be clear... first about what vaccines ARE NOT:
- Vaccines (not COVID-19, not Chicken-Pox, not MMR, not the 1798 Smallpox, not Polio, not even the Anthrax vaccine!) do not prevent pathogens (bacteria- or viral-based) from entering the body - that's why researchers and scientists wear "space suits" (protective gear) when researching pathogens - even when they are known & they have been vaccinated!
- Vaccines are not (ever) 100% effective
- Vaccines do not (directly) fight actual diseases or infections!
It's helpful in understanding those statements, if you understand what vaccines are actually developed and designed to do: vaccines are designed to trigger an immune response in those who receive the "treatment". That is: the point of the vaccine is to prepare the host (human body) to more effectively fight (by itself) the targeted pathogen. As a result:
- People with compromised or weak immune systems are not helped (or at least not as much) by vaccines. These are people like the elderly, the very young, and people with certain diseases - like leukemia or HIV (especially if it has progressed to AIDS).
- People who receive a vaccine do not immediately receive a benefit - it takes time for the body to react (and build white-blood-cells as a result).
- Some vaccines can provide a lifetime level of protection - that is, the body "permanently" learns how to "fight" the pathogen. Other vaccines (like the early Polio vaccines, and all "modern" Flu vaccines - and the current COVID-19 vaccines) require a "booster" to "remind" the body of how to fight the pathogen, and to trigger the "correct" immune response quickly enough to prevent illness.
So, why is it Scientists say that vaccines "prevent" the disease? Well, in most cases the pathogens multiply inside the unvaccinated human host, who then spreads the pathogen to others. The longer the infection lasts, the more infectious the original host becomes.
Things work differently in a vaccinated host: when the vaccinated host detects the presence of the pathogen, the vaccine-boosted immune response keeps the levels of pathogen growing in the body much lower. For some pathogens, this means that the level of infection never rises to the point where the host is contagious, in others (with particularly virulent pathogens), it reduces the period of time that they are contagious.
Most pathogens do not make the host sick immediately upon infection... it takes time for the pathogen to "build up" before the effects are noticeable by the infected host. Again, the "pathways" for vaccinated and unvaccinated hosts differ:
- in unvaccinated hosts, the pathogen multiplies quickly and the host is often contagious long before symptoms of illness are felt. Once ill, the infected host often has an inadequate immune response that often contributes to the spread of the pathogen to others: coughing, sneezing, vomiting, diarrhea, etc. The "natural" immune response may - or may not - be effective against the pathogen. Even if it is effective, it takes "some time" for the immune system to successfully eliminate the pathogen, or if it cannot, the host often dies as a result.
- in vaccinated hosts, the pathogen triggers a quick immune response - one that the vaccine has "programmed" to be effective against the pathogen. As a result, the host often "defeats" (clears) the pathogen before it has replicated enough to make the host either contagious or ill. However, some pathogens work very quickly, and it replicates quickly enough that the host DOES become contagious and/or ill - but the immune response (if the vaccine is a good one) still allows the body to effectively eliminate the pathogen with minimal illness and a greatly reduced level and/or length of contagion.
THIS IS HOW THE COVID-19 VACCINES SAVE LIVES
Not through some magic that creates a barrier that prevent the virus from entering the body. Not by directly attacking the COVID-19 virus itself (that would be a TREATMENT - like an antibiotic for some bacterial infections - not a vaccine!).
No, just like all the other vaccines we already have in our lives... by strengthening our own bodies' immune systems! Like we have been doing for over 200 years, now!
No vaccine (and, indeed, no treatment) is 100% effective. But Trump's new m-RNA based vaccines are EXCEPTIONALLY effective, and require a TINY FRACTION of the research and testing time needed to adjust (tweak) for variants - or even for whole other diseases!
The m-RNA technology that Trump jumpstarted will be a game-changer in immunology research! (No, he didn't invent it - but he gave it the funding and attention needed to move it a decade or more along in its research "path"! And that has saved untold thousands - perhaps even millions - of lives!)
And your whining that it doesn't "prevent all infection" (it never could - not even by design!) or "prevent all contagion" (also never could - also by design) won't change any of that! We won't "unlearn" the science, and 10-years from now, MOST of our vaccines will likely be based-on the m-RNA vaccines developed for COVID-19!
Trudeau has been photoed/videoed without a mask, despite his mandates for his own people. It's not just him, but all world leaders.
Again, you act as-if Liberals were the only hypocrites! OK, maybe they're more hypocritical of mask-wearing rules - but that's just one example! Conservative lawmakers are hypocritical in all sorts of areas too!
That doesn't make their hypocrisy any less important or any more acceptable... but dogs who bite need to be handled too - but aren't worthy of headline-level attention!
OK, so some ass clowns joined in. But did the truckers do any of the violence BLM and Antifa did and still do? Your government gives them money while calling truckers "domestic terrorists".
OK, so the Canadian Gov't doesn't list BLM or Antifa as official Terrorist Groups (domestic or otherwise) - and neither do they list Truckers (See here)
Who they DO list includes the Proud Boys and the Three Percenters - organizations who support the overthrow of the current Gov't, vs protesting for change within the current Gov't. (It's a subtle difference - I doubt @raphjd will get it!)
For the record, the Canadian Gov't never called the truckers "domestic terrorists" - they said they were acting like domestic terrorists! There's a difference! I can say @raphjd acts like a Russian agent without meaning that he is actually a Russian agent! (I can show the former, but I cannot prove the latter!)
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But your beloved Biden, Fauci, and many others said that the vaccine would prevent us from getting and spreading covid. They lied. Even the Mayo Clinic said it would prevent you from getting and spreading covid, but only fairly recently changed their website to the true facts.
If Trudeau is going to be a mask nazi, then he needs to follow his own rules.
Trudeau's government supports BLM and Antifa, despite the rioting, looting, and murdering they have done.
The truckers didn't riot, loot, and murder but the liberal government did call them terrorists, insurrections, etc, etc, et.
The Proud Boys and Three Percenters have done none of the stuff that BLM and Antifa have done.
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@raphjd
You're going to remain fixed in your position. Sadly it seems you run this section and it's all yours. I don't bother with "men" like you in real life. I feel sorry for you. Goodluck. The world is flat and only for people like-minded like yourself. Bye.You are limited by the news you like.
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@Postwhore02 said in Trudeau says Canada will stand against authoritarianism:
@raphjd
You're going to remain fixed in your position. Sadly it seems you run this section and it's all yours. I don't bother with "men" like you in real life. I feel sorry for you. Goodluck. The world is flat and only for people like-minded like yourself. Bye.Translation: You ain't a liberal, so you are a poopy head.
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@raphjd A poopy head. ..... I notice you don't spout this jiberish on the other Gay torrent community Forums, you feel comfy here? Are you all done? Because I can follow you everywhere. And yet, the pig in me says It'd be more fun to sleep with you. :devilwhip: I just wonder if I can corrupt that tight ass of yours.....
You are limited by the news you like.
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Have you considered that the LGBT community is quite liberal and liberals are far from tolerant of differing views?
The fact that I allow you to post your liberal BS, shows I'm much more tolerant than you.
Are you stalking me? That's creepy.
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@raphjd Allow me? Proof's in the pudding darling. You're the only one here. Hypocrite. Yeah, I can stalk you but it doesn't discount the fact you don't post this anywhere else, just here on "YOUR" site. Prove me wrong and start posting your "tolerant" views elsewhere too
You are limited by the news you like.
