Anti-white racism - Portland OR, AGAIN
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LOL,
"I'm insulting you, not ad hominems".
Pathetic.
You do nothing but argue about me, not what I say. Says everything about you, doesn't it.
If I wanted to give an ad hom about you it'd be easy:
"This dude, he got locked up by some bitch who cried rape. I don't know this guy in real life but if you look at how he argues online and calls people names 'n stuff, there must have been something to those charges. Either way, the experience scared him and all he can do now as woman bash. And he's worse that that kid in the Sixth Sense – all he sees is black people. He's paranoid that blacks and other people of color are coming to take jobs from the white man, so here he goes again posting some bs article about some white guy who wants to run for office. I'll bet he's been fired for some shit and is acting it out on POC, just like he's acting out on women. The f###ing wife beater."
Imagine how much worse it would sound if I wrote in to you rather than about you. That is the tone and tenor of how you argue here. You can do better, and you do do better when someone agrees with you but god help us if someone disagrees with you. You can't handle it.
No, I did not try to destroy your character to win an argument, R. I'm sick 'n tired of the tone and am calling you out on it. Since you're getting thumbs down, take it as a clue.
BTW, what you just said about Hilary is the truth. What you claim about the council needing a POC might very be true because they are playing identity politics but because they are doesn't mean you need to, too. Just because he has a dick doesn't mean he's right for the job.
Breaks over. Time to work.
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What Flozen did is present facts that rh–- did not. Taken together we know there is a problem with identity politics in Portland but no one is going to solve it by continuing to play identity politics. That's the point.
So what you are saying is, the SJWs can keep playing identity politics, but if I mention it, I'm a "teenager". Hypocrite much?!
Portland can keep doing their anti-whiteness seminars, at taxpayer expense, but no one is allowed to say that's fucked up.
How very SJW of you.
You logic is extremely flawed though. If no one commented on things like identity politics, it will become even more of the norm, rather than ending.
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I never said that because he is white and male that he is more suited for the job, but nice try at strawmanning though.
I only pointed out the blatant racism and sexism being used against him. Clearly you are too stupid to gt it.
Also, don't be such a fucking hypocrite or delusional idiot, in claiming that if conservatives stop talking about identity politics it will just magically go away. It won't. It will become the norm, even more than it is now, without being challenged.
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Interesting thought.
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If you want to bring up "thumbs up/down" then you should learn the history of it, rather than just spouting off about something you have no clue about.
Your leftist buddies used to follow their enemies around the forums and blindly thumbs down everything they posted, even posts filling porn requests or answering question in the Support section. They would do the same, but the opposite for their own side. It still happens, but not as much as it used to.
When they would get called out on it, they would cry.
Also, leftists would lie and try to get me fired because of things I never ever did. They are too fucking stupid to know that the site records EVERYTHING, including staff actions. One leftist (who I had never heard of before) claimed I called him a "fucking faggot nigger", which I never did and the proof was there that I never did. He finally admitted that I never did, but that he accused me of it because I was critical but factual about BLM and the DNC. He couldn't point to a single thing I said that was false, so he emailed the site owner and claimed I called him those names.
Don't think he was the only one. Leftists contacting the Helpdesk and/or other staff claiming that I'm screaming pro-nazi stuff in the forums. It was rampant. It still happens, like with the thumbs down bullshit, but nowhere near as much as it used to.
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If you want to bring up "thumbs up/down" then you should learn the history of it, rather than just spouting off about something you have no clue about.
Your leftist buddies used to follow their enemies around the forums and blindly thumbs down everything they posted, even posts filling porn requests or answering question in the Support section. They would do the same, but the opposite for their own side. It still happens, but not as much as it used to.
When they would get called out on it, they would cry.
Also, leftists would lie and try to get me fired because of things I never ever did. They are too fucking stupid to know that the site records EVERYTHING, including staff actions. One leftist (who I had never heard of before) claimed I called him a "fucking faggot nigger", which I never did and the proof was there that I never did. He finally admitted that I never did, but that he accused me of it because I was critical but factual about BLM and the DNC. He couldn't point to a single thing I said that was false, so he emailed the site owner and claimed I called him those names.
Don't think he was the only one. Leftists contacting the Helpdesk and/or other staff claiming that I'm screaming pro-nazi stuff in the forums. It was rampant. It still happens, like with the thumbs down bullshit, but nowhere near as much as it used to.
To whom are you talking to now?
Did you actually go back through this thread to the 9th and pull a comment I made about thumbs up/down and now, after no one responding to your three previous posts, decide to comment on thumbs up/down?
There's no way you're fifty. None. Why you'd feel the need to lie that way is beyond me.
I really can't believe this has been in your head all this time – on a forum on a porn torrent site. Damn, boy, get some perspective.
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If you have absolutely nothing better to do than constantly attack me, then maybe you need a vacation.
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Well, rather than taking individual political topics too far afield, there's now a thread on P&D that can act as a repository for all the chit-chat about GT's "opinion buttons":
https://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=53873.0
This thread was originated to discuss the Portland City Council seat, and once the mechanics of the race were explored (or ignored), it was revealing. Let's see how that race pans out in 2018.
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If you have absolutely nothing better to do than constantly attack me, then maybe you need a vacation.
What are you talking about? No one replied to you but you kept making replies to this thread trying to elicit a response, going back to several days to try to make a point about something trivial that had and has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
I think your statement is a good example of projection. If you don't know what that means, look it up.
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If it had nothing to do with the topic, then YOU want off topic when you brought it up as a lame attempt to insult me. YOU should follow your own "advice" and do better, much, much better.
I do love how you keep showing you are a hypocrite though.
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If it had nothing to do with the topic, then YOU want off topic when you brought it up as a lame attempt to insult me. YOU should follow your own "advice" and do better, much, much better.
I do love how you keep showing you are a hypocrite though.
The topic was on point; Flozen brought in facts; you ignored the facts and went off on a tangent; I pointed the tangent out; Fred said to ignore people with red; I said rep doesn't matter it's thumbs – TWO DAYS LATER you commented on the thumbs. YOU obviously cared enough to keep thinking about it. Two days passed with three messages you posted in the thread that no one responded to so that you made yet another message suddenly bringing up thumbs up/down.
Those are the facts.
And telling you to adhere to a higher standard is exactly what members should be telling you to do. You work for the site. You're an admin, yet you use your position to bully people, call them names, and downvote them into red. You don't do your job well; if you did, these forums would have more traffic. That's on you. I know this because other members complain about you to me off-site, or did you overlook the messages in the forums of people saying they don't post because the environment is hostile? So be an adult and act with professionalism like an admin should or give up the position to someone who would take it seriously.
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What facts did flozen bring? The white guy is running against VOCs, aka identity politics. You told me that i wasn't supposed to talk about identity politics, because in your delusional mind, if the opposing side stop opposing it, it will magically go away. You have double standards for your leftist buddies. They can run rampant with their identity politics bullshit, but the other side must never mention it.
AND?!
You were the one to bring up thumbs, so I explained the history of it and how your leftist buddies abused it. Now you are praising it as the better system.
LOL, you are so full of yourself. When I'm bored I re-read current threads to see if there is something I might have missed.
It always amazes me when people like you come to the site an think EVERYTHING revolves around you. Oddly, we've had about a dozen in the 12ish years the site has been going. The site existed and did well before you got here and will continue after you leave. You aren't special, despite what your momma told you as she bundled you off on the short bus each morning.
I don't bully people. Unless you mean I treat them equally. Like you and your buddies, I am allowed to thumbs and rep anyone I want. I'm allowed to disagree with you on topics, such as the murdering innocent men in hopes it might prevent crimes. I don't have to only focus on the specific parts you demand I focus on so your point of view looks better.
I'm far more lenient than most staff when it comes to the crap being done by people on the site. Do you really want me to get all YouTube and enforce blanket rules, regardless of which side violates them? Of course you don't. You only want me to enforce the rules you like, against the people you don't like. I've been doing this for 11 years on this site and I know how people work.
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What facts did flozen bring?
Geez, at least you are consistent in your complete unwillingness and/or inability to process facts that don't fit your bare-bones, YouTube-scented narrative.
Before my post, you presented zero facts on the City Council's history and the current candidates, including their credentials and prior relevant political experience (or for one, his complete lack thereof). Those are among the facts I brought, and they matter.
I don't often speak from this perspective, but as a former grad teacher with a Masters' Degree in Mass Communication, I find you have an utter lack of discernment for what details are pertinent when evaluating a news report, and when creating (and later, defending) your thread posts.
So, it's no wonder you can't recall the details of my facts, or generally, ANY facts – you simply don't rely on them. And there's the pity.
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What facts did flozen bring? The white guy is running against VOCs, aka identity politics. You told me that i wasn't supposed to talk about identity politics
You were the one to bring up thumbs, so I explained the history of it and how your leftist buddies abused it. Now you are praising it as the better system.
LOL, you are so full of yourself. When I'm bored I re-read current threads to see if there is something I might have missed.
It always amazes me when people like you come to the site an think EVERYTHING revolves around you. Oddly, we've had about a dozen in the 12ish years the site has been going. The site existed and did well before you got here and will continue after you leave. You aren't special
I don't bully people. Unless you mean I treat them equally.
You have the same information on loop: X happened on a college campus + feminism = the white male is oppressed. That's it. That's all you ever bring to the table.
Flozen brought up the fact that the white dude had zero qualification and accepted that it was identity politics; you bring up college politics + feminism = the white man is oppressed. (It really comes off as that repetitive.)
And you forget you brough up the thumbs two days later after making posts that were not replied to. Why? It's not important. Ah, because you're bored. Sounds like you should make better life choices.
The bolded is exactly what I told you in a different post. Do you feel original for bringing up what I told you? Do you feel empowered? What is the point in telling me what I already told you? Again, you can not be fifty. I can not accept that.
And yes, you do bully people. Those aren't my words. Those are from other members. That's how you make them feel. Go look into my PM folders.
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So what you are saying is, your "facts" are the same as mine, just from the opposite side.
IDENTITY POLITICS
We can't ignore the very real fact that identity politics is the main reason that this WHITE MAN is being told that he can't run is because he's running against 3 VOCs. No one would have batted an eye if he too was a VOC.
Your buddy cteavin even had to strawman my argument by claiming that I was claiming he was the most qualified. I never said that. I only talked about the left and their blatant use of identity politics at every turn.
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What facts did flozen bring? The white guy is running against VOCs, aka identity politics. You told me that i wasn't supposed to talk about identity politics
You were the one to bring up thumbs, so I explained the history of it and how your leftist buddies abused it. Now you are praising it as the better system.
LOL, you are so full of yourself. When I'm bored I re-read current threads to see if there is something I might have missed.
It always amazes me when people like you come to the site an think EVERYTHING revolves around you. Oddly, we've had about a dozen in the 12ish years the site has been going. The site existed and did well before you got here and will continue after you leave. You aren't special
I don't bully people. Unless you mean I treat them equally.
You have the same information on loop: X happened on a college campus + feminism = the white male is oppressed. That's it. That's all you ever bring to the table.
Flozen brought up the fact that the white dude had zero qualification and accepted that it was identity politics; you bring up college politics + feminism = the white man is oppressed. (It really comes off as that repetitive.)
And you forget you brough up the thumbs two days later after making posts that were not replied to. Why? It's not important. Ah, because you're bored. Sounds like you should make better life choices.
The bolded is exactly what I told you in a different post. Do you feel original for bringing up what I told you? Do you feel empowered? What is the point in telling me what I already told you? Again, you can not be fifty. I can not accept that.
And yes, you do bully people. Those aren't my words. Those are from other members. That's how you make them feel. Go look into my PM folders.
Ah, you really are getting butthurt aren't you?!
LOL, "bully" has lost all meaning over the last decade. Everything is "bullying" according to the left for at least 15 years now.
It is extremely telling that you can't argue anything I say, so you have to argue me. You try to shut me down by insulting me, like leftist always do.
I noticed that since you and I got into it over your stance on murdering innocent men in hopes it might prevent a crime, that you became the darling of the leftists on the site. If you ever agree with me on anything, they will stab you in the back quicker than you can blink an eye. Ask RoyalCrown89 about the "love" his fellow leftists showed him when he supported free speech as defined by the USSC (which I also support). As the 6 or 7 leftists who finally, after several months, finally condemned the violence by both sides.
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So what you are saying is, your "facts" are the same as mine, just from the opposite side.
IDENTITY POLITICS
Once more, may we return to the subject of the thread?
Look, from my first response on page one, I said:
"And yes, it seems like ALL sides are playing identity politics, so no one here has the higher moral ground."
While ct and I tagged ALL four candidates with playing identity politics of one stripe or another, you just couldn't step away from the white guy long enough to recognize, "Hey, this 11th-hour bid could be political opportunism by a white candidate to use his "identity" as a wedge between the other, multi-ethnic candidates."
Can you even acknowledge the possibility now? The mere possibility?
It's late, and goodnight.
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The problem is, the identity politics is coming from one side; the LEFT.
It would be "racist" if it was the other way around, but of course the left never, ever believe that whites can be the victim of racism even when it clearly meets the made up definition leftists used so that only whites could be racists. The same goes for sexism.
Imagine the shit storm if it was 3 white men and a VOC, "at the eleventh hour", decided to run and people started to tell her she couldn't run because she isn't white and has a vag.
If it was reversed, it would be international news, not just local news that happened to make it to YouTube.
Don Lemon and Simone Sanders would be screaming "OH HELL FUCKING NO!!! CRACKERS NEED TO FUCKING DIE!!!! WE TOLD YOU ALL HONKEYS ARE RACISTS!!!".
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The problem is, the identity politics is coming from one side; the LEFT.
It would be "racist" if it was the other way around, but of course the left never, ever believe that whites can be the victim of racism even when it clearly meets the made up definition leftists used so that only whites could be racists. The same goes for sexism.
Imagine the shit storm if it was 3 white men and a VOC, "at the eleventh hour", decided to run and people started to tell her she couldn't run because she isn't white and has a vag.
If it was reversed, it would be international news, not just local news that happened to make it to YouTube.Don Lemon and Simone Sanders would be screaming "OH HELL FUCKING NO!!! CRACKERS NEED TO FUCKING DIE!!!! WE TOLD YOU ALL HONKEYS ARE RACISTS!!!".
Here's the thing, R: We agree.
Flozen even agreed that this particular case seeped in identity politics but instead of standing on that firm ground you both got into a fight. Not cool!
About this particular case there are two things going on.
- Identity politics and 2) the man is legit less qualified. If you're going to maintain that he x, y, or z because he's a white guy, then you're playing identity politics, now.
The conversation could have moved in a direction to find more common ground or to look for solutions but things here quickly degenerate into name-calling and fisty cuffs. As an Admin you should be setting the standard so that conversations flow. This is why I'm pissed with you but ignore Fred (most of the time).
Most of my friends hold views I disagree with – Christians, Muslims, SJW's of some flavor, real racists -- and I get along fine because I listen and talk. There needs to be more of that here.
