Sex!!! Condom or bareback?
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Ha, that's probably a good POLL QUESTION right there:
"Do you prefer to see and download movies that, do you prefer downloading and watching material that is: amateur or professional produced, condoms or bareback?"I like both movies: amateur and professional, the passion that runs across the scenes.
I saw amateur movies, without condoms, who were really bad: actors and sex. Otherwise, I saw good professional movies, with condoms on, that made my cock hard as a rock.
As Mazda said you can't go back once your life is damned: a few seconds to put on condom or not can decide your whole life right now.
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To be perfectly honest: I've have barebacked since being single. There come moments when you just want to; at least for me anyway, and I've taken the risk.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I truly do not think you fully understand the risk that you are taking with this type of action. It is a proven fact that the raise in sexually transmitted infections is at an all-time high, and the consequences of making the wrong decision are much greater than I'm quite sure that you even realize.
By no means am I saying that you are "wrong" for making such a choice because in this world everyone is both entitled to their opinion and have the right to choose what is "right" for them. By the same token, undoubtedly, I completely agree that the feeling of sex bareback is by far more pleasurable. All I'm saying is that there is a lot more at steak than most people think. Aside from the whopping $1533.53 per month that it costs me for the medications required in order to keep my immune system from shutting down and ultimately keeping me alive, there's much more than just the monetary value of the medications to take into account. To be specific, here's a few of the key things to take into account.
1) I volunteered at ACCKWA (the Aids Committee of Cambridge, Kitchener, Waterloo, and Area) since 2000, and in that time was exposed to a wide range of information on the subject of HIV, as well as it's ins and outs, as was my obligation in order to do so working along side medical professionals in the field. Despite this knowledge and having the upper hand in that regard by already being armed with this information, I assure you that for even the most well educated individuals, there is absolutely nothing that can prepare you emotionally or mentally for the news of finding out that you are HIV+. In fact, even to the most well educated person out there, being diagnosed with HIV is a seriously life altering event that I promise you will send you into a mental melt down right away. To make things worse, this initial shock period that will come within the first approximately year from diagnosis doesn't really go away. This brings me to point number 2.
2) Statistically speaking, 96% of all persons infected with HIV are not long thereafter diagnosed with depression if they have not already gone into such a downward spiral. In fact, of that 96% of people who are eventually diagnosed with depression caused by the news of their HIV diagnosis, 63% of those people attempt suicide within 3 months of diagnosis. This opens a whole new can of worms when it comes to the treatment of HIV, as there are other risk factors involved in that equation, which brings me to point 3.
3) Although HIV is broken down into 2 major "types" when running a ginotype test to determine the particular strain of HIV that has infested your body (Type 1 and Type 2), there are also drug resistances that can also come part and parcel with the strain of HIV that you become infected with. This presents an even bigger problem when examining what the best medication regime to suppress the virus within your system. Atripla for example (a commonly used HIV all-in-one medication) is known for such side effects as increased risk for depression and/or thoughts or acts of suicide, among other mental stability issues. Shockingly enough, this isn't the only medication to do this. Even in a more traditional medication regime, the use of a Protease-Inhibitor such as Reyataz or Sustiva are also known for this effect. In short, you're opening a can of worms for a potentially bigger problem, which could inevitably cost you your life. Having a resistance to certain medications may also severely limit the options available for HIV treatment. The sad reality is that not all medication resistances are common or for that matter, easy to work around with a carefully crafted medication regime. In a lot of cases, doctors will avoid the use of such medications in persons who show potential signs of being prone to these risks. There are a few alternative treatments to avoid such complications however, so this does not inevitably mean that when diagnosed you will fall into this risk category. The number 1 most commonly used and effective work around to such medication regimes is the use of Truvada, which opens a whole new can of worms to say the least, as it does with other medications such as Prezista, which is often mixed with Truvada, which brings me to point 4.
4) I can tell you first hand that some of the side effects of the medications aren't exactly anyone's "cup of tea". Although each person will react and respond to the various medications differently, there are a lot of common side-effects that most people don't even know about that aren't so pretty. For example, did you know that with Truvada (the #1 most commonly used HIV medication in a regime), some side effects include dizziness, nausea (in most cases bad enough to cause a person to frequently deliver the gospel according to Puke), and in my case chronic diarrhea. In most cases with this side effect, it is safer to treat the side effect than it is to try and change medication regimes due to the nature of the way the drugs work. These of course are all on the "lighter" side of the side effects that often come with such medications. In my case for example, I can honestly say that there are days when I just want to break down and cry because I have not been able to shit properly in almost 2 years. In fact, the moments leading up to having to use the bathroom can sometimes get a little messy because they can come on with sudden sharp pains through the gut caused by the building gas bubbles, which cause severe cramping. What's worse is that even with the strongest medication that there is, there are still unfortunate times where there is no making it to the bathroom because it pushes out whether you want it to or not, which results in a rather messy and believe me when I say absolutely DREADFUL smelling mess that you cannot control. Yes… That's right, complete incontinence of explosive diarrhea that quite honestly can feel like you're pissing out your ass and it will never stop. This of course is just the beginning of what can come. An alarmingly large number of persons diagnosed with HIV on such medications have also experienced issues with excessive weight gain for which they cannot control, inevitably leading to morbid obesity, and in more extreme cases, even diabetes, assuming that the dehydration from the other issues doesn't catch up with you first. Unusual growths such as a hunch back are also common with some medication regimes are also quite common to go hand and hand with the medication treatments available. The unfortunate side of it is that for these people, they are faced with the choice of getting accustomed to a new "normal" that their body must experience in order to live and more or less trade off some unpleasant and sometimes visually hideous side effects in order to be able to live. Does this really sound like the kind of life you would want to live?
5) Aside from the obvious complications caused by an already compromised immune system when getting sick with something like a cold or flu, there are much bigger risks involved with illness that persons living with HIV must be very careful with if they value their life as they know it. In particular, I'm referring to exposure to a bacteria known as Toxoplasmosis. Toxoplasmosis is a bacteria that stems from the consumption and digestion of raw (or near raw) meat that has never been frozen, and has not been cooked very well. That may not sound like it's such a big deal, right…? WRONG! Toxoplasmosis is often found in two common things that a lot of people experience or deal with every day. These two common things are cat shit, and bird shit, which aren't always possible to stay away from. Another common place to pick up such a bacteria is from the consumption of such foods as sushi. In a normal person's immune system that has not been compromised, exposure to Toxoplasmosis will not phase your immune system, but did you know that when Toxoplasmosis is mixed with HIV, the end result is a very painful, slow, and deteriorating death? Yes… That's right... When mixed with HIV, Toxoplasmosis will team up against the brain cells, causing a deterioration of the brain, more or less leaving a small hem-ridge in it's path. The result is chronic migrane headaches that will never go away and only get worse, combined with an Alzheimer's like effect as your brain quite literally eats itself alive until you eventually just slip away and die after spending a rather lengthy amount of time in chronic pain and slowly turn into a vegetable, lifeless in a hospital bed, unsure of who you are, where you are, or who anyone is really. It's a scary reality, however at one point or another, every person living with HIV must always keep this in the back of their mind if they value their life. For some people, this means having to make a choice and be rid of a beloved pet that they can now no-longer have. This only just begins to scratch the tip of the iceberg on that subject, but that will be a discussion for another day.
6) In many countries (such as Canada), federal laws state that a person who knows that they are HIV+ MUST disclose their HIV status to a proposed sexual partner prior to sexual contact. I can tell you first hand that all it takes to put a person with HIV through a legal nightmare is for one verbal allegation that the person failed to disclose their status, and instantly, the person living with HIV can be jailed in some cases for up to TWO YEARS before even being brought to trial, regardless of whether or not they actually disclosed their HIV status, assuming that they do not make bail. This is something that I know about all too well unfortunately, as the nightmare on this process started for me on April 16, 2010, and yet I still await for everything to go through the legal system for my good name to be cleared on account of the fact that the verbal allegation against me is completely fabricated. Add to this the complication of loosing a decently paying job over it while the legal proceedings go through the court, on top of being denied for multiple jobs as a result of the pending criminal charges until they clear. It only takes 1 night of fun to potentially destroy your life all over again if you're HIV+. That's another sad and unfortunate circumstance for which far too many people living with HIV at this day and age must endure. What's worse is that in any prison system in any country, the sad reality is that persons living with HIV more often than not are not given the correct medications at the right times, if they're even lucky to get them at all. That in and of itself opens the door for a whole new series of potentially serious and life-threatening complications that in the end, could cos them their life. Is this a risk you're really willing to take? Take it from someone who trusted the wrong person, and has lived (and still is living) this very nightmare when I say that the sad reality is you never really know who you can trust at this day and age.
7) As a person living with HIV, I can assure you that the medical system in just about any country is not well enough equipped to handle a person living with HIV in general. It's a sad reality that even at this day and age, far too many doctors, nurses, and other medical professionals do not know how to properly handle a person who his HIV+ either due to their lack of education on the subject and/or due to the lack of resources available to them in their area. The unfortunate part about all of that is that this comes as a burden to the person living with HIV because it can and will become increasingly difficult to obtain proper health care in any given situation at the mere mention of HIV. Did you know that in way too many places, even in North America, doctors and nurses far too often will segregate a person living with HIV into a private isolation chamber for no reason other than they are HIV+ and need medical attention, when such steps are not necessary? The worse part is that it doesn't stop there… I can't count the number of health care atrocities that occur on a daily basis in just about any region of the world as a result of a number of factors that just should not be at this day and age. Can you really afford to sacrifice the quality of your health care?
There's a whole lot more that I could say on this subject to spell out the reality of what living with HIV is actually like, and let me tell you, it's not as glamorous to live with as people may lead you to believe. Please don't take any of this the wrong way, as I'm not meaning to insult you or otherwise judge you for your choices. I do believe that everyone has the right to make their own decisions with themselves and be the individuals that they are. That being said though, I also believe that people have a right to know what they are getting themselves into before making such choices. This little informational posting is just a small glimpse of the "inside scoop" as it were to living with HIV, and I assure you that there are much uglier, more unpleasant parts and details that I haven't even begun to touch on the subject....
The bottom line is that all I'm saying is make up your own mind and make your own decisions for yourself, but when you do, keep all of this in the back of your mind and ask yourself, "is this a risk I'm really willing to take?" before making such a choice, and make sure that you are educated in your decision as your very life could depend on it. I say this to you now because living this nightmare, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't regret the unfortunate choices that I made of trusting the wrong people. I just don't want to see yet another person suddenly finding themselves walking down the path of a living nightmare when the choices that they made could have prevented the nightmare entirely.
I sincerely urge you to think carefully before the next time you decide to play Russian Roulette with your very life. You never know who could be carrying something like HIV... After all, I was a carrier of HIV for some time and didn't even know it until it was too late and I had already infected someone.
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MrMazda, thank you so much for posting such great info on the matter.
I've never known (face-to-face) the first person with HIV+ yet. I'm sure somewhere along the line, I will. Some people would freak, some people would react in a supportive manner (which would be my case).
I cannot stress how important it is the use of condoms nowadays when engaging into sexual encounters for there are risks everywhere, and I'm not only talking HIV, but tons of STDs and more. I'm sure IF you cared for your well-being, you will be wise enough to put on your hat and go about (generally speaking). Now, one thing is to watch a BB movie with porn actors who have been tested over and over again for HIV, STDs, etc., and get a massive boner while you're at it, and another one, real life. People can be mean, some "carriers" will want to drag you down their path and doom you forever because it happened to them once and can't go back… people can be as evil as that.
Yes, you are free to make your own decisions and everything, just stop for a second before getting into something you will probably regret every single moment of your life until your existence fades away and even so, the feeling of regret would still be there no matter what. Be concious, cautious, wise and smart about it. Never take a leap of faith, your life is too precious for doing such thing.
I gotta say, I like the feeling of barebackin'. I did it once with a couple I had about 3 years ago. He was allergic to latex and we couldn't find Polyurethane condoms around the city, or any other kind. The feeling is amazing and made me hard as a freaking rock... but guess what? BEFORE we engaged in such thing, we had ourselves tested 3 times, by 3 of the best Labs in town, every 3 months, knowing for a fact that we were both committed to each other and completely monogamous. Up-to-date, I'm still negative and my plans to stay that way have not changed.
MrMazda made a pretty clear post and we should take him as a role model example to learn from. He's a great guy, I know that for a fact... but his life took a sudden turn he did not expected. Bro, you have my respect, you have showed to be a trust-worthy person, no gimmicks or anything... I appreciate that.
I hope we can all learn more from you, your experiences and such so WE as a community could benefit from all your knowledge regarding HIV's pros and cons.
Thanks again for sharing such an amazing "insight" as to what it is to live with HIV. You sure are a fighter, a tough one mate!
Cheers! :love:
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It's amazing what a little education can do
Just think… There are some people out there that can look forward to a hunch back, beer gut, and decaying teeth...
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This thread should have been named: Tell us if you are having unprotected sex so we can educate you.
Did you look at the Top 20 movies list? We have a new #1 that skyrocketed over the weekend since being introduced. It's Treasure Island - oh what a surprise.
LOL.
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MrMazda sir, your post is probably the most important offering there's been on this site. Thank you for taking the time to share your personal experiences, in that post and others you have contributed to on the subject
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Never had anal sex until now.
But a lot of times I wondered myself: what if with a condom you lose all the touch of your partner while having sex?
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Now I'm skeptic: condom or not condom??? ???
For the bottom absolutely the same, for the top a bit different, I as top prefer condoms since I'm well endowed… it actually helps me penetrate tight bottoms, for me is safe or no game.
This thread should have been named: Tell us if you are having unprotected sex so we can educate you.
Did you look at the Top 20 movies list? We have a new #1 that skyrocketed over the weekend since being introduced. It's Treasure Island - oh what a surprise.
LOL.
Yup and I find it a bit scary, do we know if this people are hiv+ or -, what is the position of the company that makes the films about the actors being + or - , is this a snuff film? What I loathe in some is that they don't care about the health of the actors only about the cash.
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I am well aware of the risks, yet I am totally turned off by condoms. For me sex with condoms is not sex, but masturbation. What's the difference between putting a condom on a cock, or on a plastic dildo? For me - none.
That said, I preferred to have no sex than to risk it. I did try using condoms, but my cock became limp every time I put that damn piece of latex on, and being fucked by a condom-wearing cock felt no difference than my realistic dildo. So I stopped having sex.
Then a friend of mine suggested I fuck him bareback. I put the conditions: we wait, and get tested before we do. We were both fully neg and have been fucking bareback ever since. We're a couple now and fuck the hell out of each other regularly. No enemas, just make sure we're not full beforehand - and there are no cleanup problems. Cum in ass, and it stays there. We love it that way.
Yeah, there's still risk because we have to trust each other. But I'd rather trust my BF than a piece of latex, which can break, especially during anal sex. How many people use condoms specifically designed for anal? Not many, I deem.
What I really hate is when discussions about sex preferences entice well-meaning people to start shoving unsolicited advice down people's throats. I know they mean well, but there are other threads to do so. People will do what they want, even if it 100% harms them (like smoking). Unlike smoking, barebacking can be safe.
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This topic can really make my head spin lol
I know that barebacking bring great risks but it does not take away the fact that it feels way better then with condom.
What i have sometimes as well is that i go soft with condom, i had blowjobs with condom and to be honest i did not feel a thing what kinda sucks (not in good way lol)Also i had bareback sex when i was single and later i found out they were HIV+, i had several encounters with these guys and when they told me after all those encounters that they carried HIV with them it shocked me really bad and it really caused me to get a lot of stress.
Luckily i tested my several times after that now and i am still negative
But yeah i can tell you that even when you think you have it can cause you to go insane.
And if you are wondering how it can be that i am still HIV- after having sex with several guys that were HIV+,
I was told and even read that HIV is not always contagious when the person that is HIV+ takes his medicines correctly.
I am not sure how to explain it correctly but it has something to do with the viral load status of the HIV+ person, when it is low the virus is not contagious.
But then again when a person with HIV gets a STD or a flu that raises his viral load what makes him contagious again.Anways sex with or without a condom is always a risk a condom makes it just safer
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It's contageous, the risk is just minor in percentage, it's a crime to have sex with someone bare not telling them you're HIV+, you are putting them to a death sentence and that is attempt of homicide, so you know you could actually denunce them to the authorities… and well I just don't really think people know the cost of being a carrier from the social and economic view... it's way more than a terminal disease, it's something that will make you poor, that will cut some of your dreams of the future, so at least for me to even dare say that it feels better and it's everyones choice is childish, we have the power to avoid and make this disease disappear from the earth for the future, all it takes is to avoid the exposure, but some feel it's ok it's a choice and they keep the virus with a possibility of spreading, and well it's not only you who is paying the meds the taxes and social help also help in the cost, se we are all paying for a choice you have made, so instead of being so selfish you just might consider to put a fucking piece of vinyl on or having a true relationship.
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This is a sensitive issue because people feel strongly on either side of the the issue and for different reasons. Those of us who have contracted HIV, whether it be from careless behavior, blindly ignoring risks or having it forcibly subjected on us, have a unique perspective because of being on both sides of the fence. Just like abstinence isn't a realistic goal, neither is the expectation all people will use condoms all the time.
What is reasonable is to reinforce there are risks, not just HIV, encourage others to make educated risk assessments and then engage in risk-reducing strategies to protect yourself and others. All situations are not the same and each carry different risks and potential strategies. Perfect protection does not exist, but SAFER sex does.
@ Dvtroby1987 - yes, the REAL risk involved in contracting HIV is the viral load. Individuals who are taking HIV medications, when successful, suppress the viral load to being undetectable and protect against transmission in 96% of cases. It isn't 100%, but it sure is a significant risk reduction.
@myrea - HIV is no longer considered a death sentence by the medical establishment and is now a manageable chronic illness. Hopefully the laws in various countries will update to reflect it. Nonetheless, as you pointed out, it is costly treatment and changes your life in ways people never consider until AFTER having to face it in one way or another.
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@AndyZ:
@myrea - HIV is no longer considered a death sentence by the medical establishment and is now a manageable chronic illness. Hopefully the laws in various countries will update to reflect it. Nonetheless, as you pointed out, it is costly treatment and changes your life in ways people never consider until AFTER having to face it in one way or another.
It's only a chronic illness if you can afford the treatment, which might not work according to your specific infection let's be very clear about that, and for all I am concerned… the law I do hope it does not change, one is inflicting harm into another person willingly and should be punished for that.
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@AndyZ:
@myrea - HIV is no longer considered a death sentence by the medical establishment and is now a manageable chronic illness. Hopefully the laws in various countries will update to reflect it. Nonetheless, as you pointed out, it is costly treatment and changes your life in ways people never consider until AFTER having to face it in one way or another.
It's only a chronic illness if you can afford the treatment, which might not work according to your specific infection let's be very clear about that, and for all I am concerned… the law I do hope it does not change, one is inflicting harm into another person willingly and should be punished for that.
The same can be said regarding many medical conditions, but does not change the fact it is now a successfully treatable condition in the vast majority of cases.
HIV criminalization laws are inherently unfair and why many countries are repealing or modifying them. They make the faulty conclusion the average sexual encounter is safe and that both parties do not share responsibility when risk becomes reality. The attempt to legislate safe sex is preposterous.
Look at what they do in the medical world – they assume everyone is potentially contagious and use universal precautions as the standard on everyone when handling any bodily fluids. Anyone who contracts an illness from not using universal precautions is the one at fault. Why does the regular population think it would be any different for them with sexual bodily fluids? Wishful thinking I suppose. But someone who contracts a disease and doesn't use maximal protection is just as responsible when it comes right down to it.
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@AndyZ:
Look at what they do in the medical world – they assume everyone is potentially contagious and use universal precautions as the standard on everyone when handling any bodily fluids. Anyone who contracts an illness from not using universal precautions is the one at fault. Why does the regular population think it would be any different for them with sexual bodily fluids? Wishful thinking I suppose. But someone who contracts a disease and doesn't use maximal protection is just as responsible when it comes right down to it.
I agree with you on that both are responsible in a generalised situation, however one of them knows an information and is willingly endangering the other, while the other does not know it, dumb yes… however legally that is a basic defenition of crime, you could switch hiv with money and you get a scam or thief, and that is generalisation, you can't account for rapes or coerced sex that way, for people with mental problems and so on... so by that logic we do not punish liers, or people which willingly are set to harm others, we punish the dumb, which by contracting an infection were already punished...
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I do not understand why people act so nonchalantly when it comes to sex..
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as a monogamous couple….bareback
Kinda offtopic Q:
For the bb couples...
What do the bottom do when you guys are done???
Having all the /cough/ all shot up the butt...,
i always find myself having the need/urge to 'purge' it out
Without getting it all over the bedsheets
(body feels awkward with..... if i try to keep it in)Afterwars as a 100% bottom i go to the toilet or take on a pair of boxers if its late at night and let it drip :cheesy2:
Just wondering if i am the only one that does this?? ;\
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bareback for me, must of done it over 800 times with my partner even in his sleep ( he will dream of it while im doing it),watching tv, on the phone, reading etc i cant help it if we havent had it in a while he would say his ass is itchy due to that nerve at the entrance, needs some adjustment or rubbing , monogamous only
after each time, you have a shower try to urinate, anti bacterial soap, and i use cream around that area as soap causes irritation or dry skin.
and to those bottoms after your done with it, i shove a towel up it so it wont go on the sheets as he gets out of bed, my partners wont come out unless i wasn't far in so off to the toilet for him,
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i never had a sex..
(because till now i never get a boyfriend lol)
but as an amateur, i will choose with condom…
somehow i think, it's close to imposibble to make asshole perfectly cleaned -
I like bareback sex provided that you know the guy you are having sex with but if the guy is completely stranger to you definitely a condom will be advise during sex.
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I'm in a constant relationship, so we always do bareback :cheers:
