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      Amazonios last edited by

      Hey y'all,

      I have been involved lately in a debate about homosexuality. Given the shared knowledge in Psychology, Social Sciences and Biology, I would like you to tell me your best mouth-shutting arguments regarding its normality. I'm just so annoyed seeing people repeat the same stuff about how wrong it is.

      I will give you some typical statements, tell me your arguments.

      "A gay man is not man."
      "Homosexuality is a choice, you are not born with it."
      "Bible says bla bla bla"
      "It's immoral"
      "Homosexuality is as perverted as pedophilia"
      "Homosexuality means degeneracy. Gays are not a valuable element to the society."

      I have an answer to every one of them, but sometimes I feel that I am becoming personally involved, offended, and at times I end up using the same arguments all over again, leading me to unproductive thinking, because of my emotions causing a rationality black-out.

      I am 90% sure that we will get similar takes to our answers, I just want to see how the 10% would combat these irrational beliefs.

      Note that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but posing religion and laws (which are subject to change, historically evident) in order to justify one's distaste is so old-news. I respect every homophobic's opinion, unless they have vague statements with no scientific back-up or they are products of mere ignorance and stereotypical approach.

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        mirko69 last edited by

        @Amazonios:

        "Bible says bla bla bla"

        The Bible says: The Earth is flat!  :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2:

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          thespecialk last edited by

          @Amazonios:

          Hey y'all,

          I have been involved lately in a debate about homosexuality. Given the shared knowledge in Psychology, Social Sciences and Biology, I would like you to tell me your best mouth-shutting arguments regarding its normality. I'm just so annoyed seeing people repeat the same stuff about how wrong it is.

          I will give you some typical statements, tell me your arguments.

          "A gay man is not man."
          "Homosexuality is a choice, you are not born with it."
          "Bible says bla bla bla"
          "It's immoral"
          "Homosexuality is as perverted as pedophilia"
          "Homosexuality means degeneracy. Gays are not a valuable element to the society."

          I have an answer to every one of them, but sometimes I feel that I am becoming personally involved, offended, and at times I end up using the same arguments all over again, leading me to unproductive thinking, because of my emotions causing a rationality black-out.

          I am 90% sure that we will get similar takes to our answers, I just want to see how the 10% would combat these irrational beliefs.

          Note that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but posing religion and laws (which are subject to change, historically evident) in order to justify one's distaste is so old-news. I respect every homophobic's opinion, unless they have vague statements with no scientific back-up or they are products of mere ignorance and stereotypical approach.

          There's not much you can do to combat ignorance. You can try to explain your own experiences, but most people have their mind made up so it's probably a waste of time. I'm as guilty as anyone as arguing with people about it, but lately I've realized it doesn't do much good.

          What's worse is that I am a person of religious conviction too, so when I tell someone that no one 'chooses' their sexuality, I'd think I have credibility given I also have a spiritual perspective. But like you said, ultimately it comes back to the same tired arguments.

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            Spintendo last edited by

            @Amazonios:

            I would like you to tell me your best mouth-shutting arguments regarding its normality.

            XY

            XX

            XY

            Y

            Y

            XX

            Y

            XY

            XX

            their mother's own endocrine system

            blunt

            enhance

            XY

            XX

            on

            off

            they can be handed down to offspring

            that child

            their offspring

            parents' own prenatal resistance to hormones of the opposite sex

            areas of their children's brains.

            Homosexuality as a Consequence of Epigenetically Canalized Sexual Development

            http://dx.doi.org/10.1086/668167


            The speed of light from Earth to the Moon in real time (c = 3×10^8 m/s)

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              mirko69 last edited by

              @Spintendo:

              Every person starts with either XY or XX chomosomes.

              or XXY,XYY,XXX,X,XXYY,XXXYY,XXXXY,XXXX,XXXXX,XYYY,XYYYY  chromosome mutation :crazy2:

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                Amazonios last edited by

                @Spintendo:

                @Amazonios:

                I would like you to tell me your best mouth-shutting arguments regarding its normality.

                XY

                XX

                XY

                Y

                Y

                XX

                Y

                XY

                XX

                their mother's own endocrine system

                blunt

                enhance

                XY

                XX

                on

                off

                they can be handed down to offspring

                that child

                their offspring

                parents' own prenatal resistance to hormones of the opposite sex

                areas of their children's brains.

                Homosexuality as a Consequence of Epigenetically Canalized Sexual Development

                http://dx.doi.org/10.1086/668167

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                • Spintendo
                  Spintendo last edited by

                  @mirko69:

                  or XXY chromosome mutation :crazy2:

                  Yes, but people with Klinefelter syndrome (XXY) are usually sterile, and since homosexuality requires two successive generations to have an effect, this would not be a factor.


                  The speed of light from Earth to the Moon in real time (c = 3×10^8 m/s)

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