Homosexuality - Combating the other side
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Hey y'all,
I have been involved lately in a debate about homosexuality. Given the shared knowledge in Psychology, Social Sciences and Biology, I would like you to tell me your best mouth-shutting arguments regarding its normality. I'm just so annoyed seeing people repeat the same stuff about how wrong it is.
I will give you some typical statements, tell me your arguments.
"A gay man is not man."
"Homosexuality is a choice, you are not born with it."
"Bible says bla bla bla"
"It's immoral"
"Homosexuality is as perverted as pedophilia"
"Homosexuality means degeneracy. Gays are not a valuable element to the society."I have an answer to every one of them, but sometimes I feel that I am becoming personally involved, offended, and at times I end up using the same arguments all over again, leading me to unproductive thinking, because of my emotions causing a rationality black-out.
I am 90% sure that we will get similar takes to our answers, I just want to see how the 10% would combat these irrational beliefs.
Note that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but posing religion and laws (which are subject to change, historically evident) in order to justify one's distaste is so old-news. I respect every homophobic's opinion, unless they have vague statements with no scientific back-up or they are products of mere ignorance and stereotypical approach.
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Hey y'all,
I have been involved lately in a debate about homosexuality. Given the shared knowledge in Psychology, Social Sciences and Biology, I would like you to tell me your best mouth-shutting arguments regarding its normality. I'm just so annoyed seeing people repeat the same stuff about how wrong it is.
I will give you some typical statements, tell me your arguments.
"A gay man is not man."
"Homosexuality is a choice, you are not born with it."
"Bible says bla bla bla"
"It's immoral"
"Homosexuality is as perverted as pedophilia"
"Homosexuality means degeneracy. Gays are not a valuable element to the society."I have an answer to every one of them, but sometimes I feel that I am becoming personally involved, offended, and at times I end up using the same arguments all over again, leading me to unproductive thinking, because of my emotions causing a rationality black-out.
I am 90% sure that we will get similar takes to our answers, I just want to see how the 10% would combat these irrational beliefs.
Note that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but posing religion and laws (which are subject to change, historically evident) in order to justify one's distaste is so old-news. I respect every homophobic's opinion, unless they have vague statements with no scientific back-up or they are products of mere ignorance and stereotypical approach.
There's not much you can do to combat ignorance. You can try to explain your own experiences, but most people have their mind made up so it's probably a waste of time. I'm as guilty as anyone as arguing with people about it, but lately I've realized it doesn't do much good.
What's worse is that I am a person of religious conviction too, so when I tell someone that no one 'chooses' their sexuality, I'd think I have credibility given I also have a spiritual perspective. But like you said, ultimately it comes back to the same tired arguments.
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I would like you to tell me your best mouth-shutting arguments regarding its normality.
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their mother's own endocrine system
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they can be handed down to offspring
that child
their offspring
parents' own prenatal resistance to hormones of the opposite sex
areas of their children's brains.
Homosexuality as a Consequence of Epigenetically Canalized Sexual Development
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Every person starts with either XY or XX chomosomes.
or XXY,XYY,XXX,X,XXYY,XXXYY,XXXXY,XXXX,XXXXX,XYYY,XYYYY chromosome mutation :crazy2:
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I would like you to tell me your best mouth-shutting arguments regarding its normality.
XY
XX
XY
Y
Y
XX
Y
XY
XX
their mother's own endocrine system
blunt
enhance
XY
XX
on
off
they can be handed down to offspring
that child
their offspring
parents' own prenatal resistance to hormones of the opposite sex
areas of their children's brains.
Homosexuality as a Consequence of Epigenetically Canalized Sexual Development
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or XXY chromosome mutation :crazy2:
Yes, but people with Klinefelter syndrome (XXY) are usually sterile, and since homosexuality requires two successive generations to have an effect, this would not be a factor.