Are collection rules enforced?
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Here are the upload rules for collections:
- A COLLECTION is a group of files that have a well-defined common theme.
- The Title must specify the theme and the degree of completeness (all videos from 2010-2011; full site rip or complete as of a specific month/year; videos from a studio or featuring an actor; numerical series 100-200, 301-499; alphabetical listings of A-C, D-F; n number of clips of a particular porn theme; etc).
- The description must contain a list of all video files or titles including, by at least copy/paste the torrent’s file list. Please list video files and titles available through other existing torrents with links to their descriptions.
- A collection may overlap with another collection if it has a different central theme. For example, a collection may include a studio series from #201 to #239; with some duplicate files found in a collection about a specific actor; or a resubmission of a site rip after 3 months in order to keep it updated.
We get some amazing collection posts. They work because the models are named, so search works. Even if the theme is 'loose', you can find what you're looking for because they follow the collection rules.
I see and report a lot of so-called collection uploads like https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=d849eb723ecdff4828b94c8f64249cca6ca2abb6d3a3986f and they're almost never taken down or fixed. Should I stop reporting, am I misunderstanding, or should the collection rules be more strictly enforced (or some other option I'm not thinking of)?
BTW, this is not intended as shade to the mods, y'all are a gift, and I know things would be even worse without you. My goal is to preserve and help make available a lot of info that's being lost because the (good) rules really do help when followed.
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@justatest90-0 it is wild that your example of a bad collection has a well defined theme, includes thumbnails, video titles and the performers are all named.
that presentation alone is worth a 5 star in my opinion, i would not report because the user is given all information they need to decide what files to download, if any.
i get your point, that it does not follow the rules in the most strict sense, but the site is considerably understaffed and there are so many worse torrent presentations, i imagine that as a mod when you see a report that has this much information and a proper theme, they probably ask why it was even reported.
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@ianfontinell-0 said in Are collection rules enforced?:
@justatest90-0 it is wild that your example of a bad collection has a well defined theme, includes thumbnails, video titles and the performers are all named.
No they're not? The description reads, in totality, "say uncle collection". The rule says, "The description must contain a list of all video files or titles including, by at least copy/paste the torrent’s file list. Please list video files and titles available through other existing torrents with links to their descriptions."
The video titles and performers are not named. It also doesn't specify the degree of completeness (is this "random, here's the list" or complete for a specific window of time?).
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@ianfontinell-0 Here's an example of it being done right for Say Uncle, and so you can actually find, ex, Felix O'Dair: https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=13438257d7caa35b28b94c8f64249ccaff77031d53903e50. It's also clear it's just some random favorites (listed). Do I wish it had thumbs? Sure, of course. They're so easy to generate. But that's not a rule and it doesn't break core site functionality when not included.
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The ever-perceptive @ianfontinell makes a great point that the site is understaffed, and sometimes smaller "infractions" to the rules can't always be addressed. The concept of a "common theme" is a matter of interpretation. While a collection that has "All of Dick Bigcock's videos" is clear, a collection entitled "My favorite gay porn" is not keeping with the rules.
There's also the rule about listing all of the files in the torrent. This is problematical given that there are lots of fan site uploads whose holding dozens of files with nonsense names like "q03495uehgj.jpg"--and conveying a list of such isn't very informative to a prospective downloader. The rule is also perhaps a bit redundant, because I find that mousing over the "number of files" entry will pop up a window showing all the file names.
It might be worth considering having a "best practices" list that aren't official rules, but that make torrent pages more useful to the prospective downloader. Examples might be:
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If there are many video files in a torrent, including a thumbnail page for each one as a .jpg is very helpful. This is not difficult to do using tools like "AutoMovieThumbnailer", where I can point the app to a folder of videos and it generates thumbnail sheets for each one.
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Including a sample video clip (1-2 minutes) of a video so the downloader can judge the quality of the video. There are some older/vintage videos that are much less than HD quality, and members might not want to download 1 GB if the file is not up to their quality standards. I use "Movavi Video Converter" to do this...and this app has a lot of other capabilities as well.
Perhaps a good but ill-defined standard would be the old Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." When posting a torrent, include as much information as you would like to see in a torrent that you download.
End of sermon. I apologise for the length of my post. I work in a field where something called a "brief" can be hundreds of pages long.
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Further to what has already been said, you can see all the files included in the torrent simply by clicking on "See full list" next to the Num Files entry on the torrent listing, negating any real benefit to replicating it all in the description. While this does include everything, including any pics or other files, it is normally enough to quickly see if anything there peaks your interest.
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@eobox91103 said in Are collection rules enforced?:
The rule is also perhaps a bit redundant, because I find that mousing over the "number of files" entry will pop up a window showing all the file names.
That list is not searchable. That's why they need to be in the description. The reason they need to be in the description is so that anyone can find them without browsing and viewing the file list of hundreds of thousands of torrents. Plus, you can't even get to those older torrents without searching, anyway. For OF or JFF collections, the description should have the name of the models in the collection. It'd be nice if the file names had that, too - a lot of people name the file what the model uploaded it as. But if not, then caps can let you find the file once you're at the collection.
But without models / names in the description, they can't be found. It's about search, folks, not about what's on the front page.