upload ratio help
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I've been a member for over 10 years, I've donated a number of times but I want to get my ratio up higher not just by donating but uploading, I have a large amount downloaded, I have plenty to upload I have my own sever I can leave it on and upload 24/7 I need to use a PIA with port forwarding enabled ( don't know if I set it up correctly) but my upload speeds are only averaging around a half of a MB per second upload, my internet upload speeds are a lot more then that. I'm using qBitTorrent inside docker on a VM on my proxmox sever.
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I use qBittorrent as well. I don't use any special configuration for uploading except for disabling upload limit.
I don't use port forwarding, proxy or any local hosted server. I also seed 24/7.My uploads speeds are typically high enough when I seed FL torrents. Seeding regular torrents, however, have very low speeds.
My strategy is to download large torrents that are on FL with a high ratio of seed/leech. It is working great most times. Sometimes I am even amazed at the amount of upload I get over the span of a few hours.
That being said, sometimes I will have long periods (fortunately seldom), that no matter how much I seed or how many leechers there are, it will not seed at all. Don't have an explanation for this, but after a few days-weeks, it resolves itself.
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I can't address some of the more technical aspects of settings and such, but one technique that works quite well is to find a torrent with many files (freeleech or not) and then just select a few of them for download--perhaps 10% of the total volume). Those will often download quickly, and then as other users are clawing at the system to get the whole content, many will be directed to me for the 10% that I have.. This works best when there are only a few seeders vs. many leechers, such as in a newly uploaded (or newly freeleeched) torrent.
It's not unusual to get, over time, a ratio of 30-50 for such a torrent, which I keep seeding even if I'm not interested in the content. For example, as I type this, there's a newly uploaded torrent called "Tom fucks a nerd," that has only one seeder (likely the uploader) and so far three leechers (likely to be more soon). There are 296 files in this torrent, and if I set my client to get just 30 of them, my ratio on that torrent will be huge within a few days.
The only potential drawback to this approach is that the system will count this torrent against your "maximum number of simultaneous downloads" limit since you haven't downloaded all of the material. If that's an issue in your case, you can delete the torrent from your system after a couple of weeks after bumping up your ratio,
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little update, I have almost 200 torrents seeding and over night gaytor.rent only registered that I uploaded 0.02TB
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As I keep saying to people, if you want to really boost your ratio, or simply have a large amount to seed for while, there is no better option in my opinion than getting a seedbox.
Right now there's a 7x boost on donations here, so for 15 Euros you can get 56GB of seed credit. For the same cost you could rent a seedbox for a month with 20Gbps up and down speeds and a terabyte of storage. If you seed desirable torrents through that I can almost guarantee that you'll sail past the donation bonus here in an hour or 2.
I don't mean to deter people form supporting the site at all, but if you're just looking for the highest return on your investment then it's a no-brainer.
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@thor9023 0.02TB = 20GB = 0.5 MB/s for 11 hours, so if that is your average upload speed this seems correct.
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@thor9023 said in upload ratio help:
little update, I have almost 200 torrents seeding and over night gaytor.rent only registered that I uploaded 0.02TB
You can seed several thousand torrents but you won't see any upload credit unless someone actively downloads some of them. How much does you client say you've uploaded?
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@frostycab I'm uploading 193 torrents
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@thor9023 said in upload ratio help:
@frostycab I'm uploading 193 torrents
I think you've misunderstood. Your client should be able to tell you how much it's actually uploaded for each torrent, and also a total figure. This is from my BiglyBT:
The figures shown there are across all trackers, but you get the idea. If your torrents on this tracker aren't actually uploading (because perhaps nobody is downloading them) you're not going to see any traffic on them so you won't get any site credit for them.
You can also check this for each upload. Here's a clip of some of stuff that I'm currently seeding here:
Only about 25% of them are currently generating any traffic, and of thos 3 are new files that only got added today so still have other leechers trying to grab them. Look at your uploads, If you have loads of seeds and no peers then you won't see any traffic.
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I don't know if this is in the web UI, but in the qBittorrent Windows client you can also get global stats under View - Statistics.
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bro its ALL in the seedbox! fixed my same problem majorly
check out the one im using its great and cheap...
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@cp2000 LOL Glad it's working out for you. Care to share your up/down totals since you got it? What is it now, about 3 weeks ago?
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Peers and seeds is one of the concepts I understand shockingly
this is my current DL and UL on my client, this is not all of it I just moved from a different client to this one -
@thor9023 The problem here is that you keep giving us only part of the information at a time, so it's really hard to say much. Those numbers could be awful or could be great, but what timeframe do they cover? Do you have traffic running on any other trackers through the same client, or even a different client running alongside that one? What speed is your internet supposed to run at, both up and down, and what speeds do you actually get if you run a speedtest? There are so many factors that play into torrenting.
I've got a 500Mbps internet connection. I just ran a speed test and got 50Mbps upload speed. At this precise moment my client is uploading at 4.2MBps (Note MB vs Mb as the client I use is reporting bytes, not bits.) The thing is by the time I finish this sentence it will probably read 400KBps, and then perhaps 2.8MBps at the end of this post. It's not stable, and varies second by second as different peers make requests to my client.
That's why it's more helpful to look at the individual figures on each torrent, especially if you're using multiple sites and trackers because that total figure is everything combined. Just to give you some idea, I tend to upload roughly 10 times as much data to gay-torrents.net as I do here even though I'm often competing with more seeders, and I have no idea why, but that means my total up/down isn't a fair representation of my performance here. You need to look specifically at the torrents on this tracker and see if they have any peers, and also if you're competing with 100 other seeders who might have better connections and therefore be treated preferentially by the swarm. As @Kekkaishi said, it's about offering the right material at the right time. I've got some torrents running that were added to the site years ago, and as such aren't in demand because everyone who might want them already has them.
Sorry if that's all a bit condescending, but I have no idea what your level of competence is so it's simpler to just state the basics.
What was the question again?
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welp i hope i don't sound that much of an asshole when it's me giving the condescending bit
@thor9023 when you are seeding, your max speed is only a tiny bit of the equation, the person downloading from you are often splitting their traffic throughout multiple connections with several other peers, for you to seed/download at very high speeds you need to be lucky to connect to someone with a matching bandwidth.
Having hundreds or thousands of active torrents sure increases your odds of eventually seeding a small portion of them to others, but realistically it depends a lot on another simple concept: demand.
I'll take myself as an example. My ratio have been very consistent, sitting around 1. Because I don't really care for increasing my ratio, I don't want to use my own storage as a CDN for other people, storing a huge amount of porn that I don't like and will never wank to. I only download what has use to me.
What that means: most of what I download is what I search for, more often than not it is old stuff that have been on the site for years. There rarely is demand for those torrents. If you download an old torrent, you can expect to never help seed it at all, the odds of someone downloading are very low, and if it happens it could be in a moment when you're not even online to help.
In simple terms, whenever I download something that is not freeleech, I am aware that I will most likely never recover the downloaded bytes through seeding those torrents. Instead, most of the upload credit I get is from:
1 freeleeched torrents
2 self-uploaded torrentsSo if you are on a run to increase your ratio, you must start to download only torrents with high activity. Those are torrents uploaded recently or that went on freeleech mode.
This is some sort of gambling, because there will never be any guarantee that you will seed anything you download. Often times people hurt their ratio attempting to download massive torrents only because they have high activity. Not wise... Instead, focus on downloading only a small portion of those massive torrents, you'll still be able to help seed while having a lower chance of ending in ratio debt.
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@frostycab I appreciate your help This is my first time talking in the Forums since I haven't taken this seriously until now, I'm sorry for the partial information.
This client that I am running I started 4/13 so 3 days ago, I moved over some completed torrents from another VM I had a few test runs getting things to work smoother.
The picture above 472GiB DL and 43GiB UL is for the 3 days running in the new organized client. My internet speed is around 700Mbps down and 30Mbps up when I'm not running anything. I do have torrents running from https://www.gay-torrents.net and I'm having a hard time separating them by the trackers cause it seams like they all fall under the same tracker.@IANFONTINELL 0 thank you for the insight
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little update I started up a seed box and it seams like Im only getting the upload credit from the seed box only and not on my own local torrent sever.
I'd like to be a lot closer to 1.0 ratio (now at .660) and give back to the community without donating more than I already have. I need to upload 997GB to get to my required .8 ratioI don't know how but I was able to DL more even after my DLs where restricted and I got deeper in the hole then I expected.
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@thor9023 No worries. I think @ianfontinell-0 has given a much better explanation than I can, especially as I start to waffle when I really try to get my teeth into things. LOL
As for being able to organise you torrents (including by tracker) I've found BiglyBT to be a great client. I've set mine up so that each torrent is automatically loaded and tagged with the relevant tracker straight from my Windows download folder. Anything I grab from the various porn trackers gets a "Porn" tag as well.
When the downloads finish they automatically get moved to a folder specifically for seeding, while also auto-copying themselves to a folder on my long-term storage drives for eventual sorting into my library. That way I can delete things that I don't want to keep while still leaving them to seed for a week or 3 in the client.
When The download drive fills up I just go through my client and remove anything that has lots of seeders and isn't showing much activity at my end. That way I'm keeping the most profitable(?) torrents running while getting rid of the chaff that doesn't benefit me at all.
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@frostycab That is my ultimate goal to be honest, although I was going to set that up with CRON jobs and such. Only difference though I don't run windows all my torrent clients are running in Docker on my severs.
I'm now seeing the seed box sever I have is uploading from like 3MiB/s to 20MiB/s nice speeds nothing I was able to get on my home sever with over 200 completed torrents. -
@thor9023 If you target the right type of torrents with your seedbox your ratio will soar, trust me.
As often as you can, look through the recently uploaded torrents on the site and grab the ones with only 1 seeder and at least 10 leechers. Don't worry about whether or not it's anything you want personally, because you're only concerned with ratio. The bigger the better when it comes to download size! If you've grabbed a seedbox with a decent line speed you'll download to 100% way ahead of anyone else, while also being right at the front of the queue when it comes to being an attractive uploader.
Another thing you can do once you start the torrents is to just have a quick peek at the swarm for each one to see how much anyone else already has. If you swarm is full of people who already have 80 or 90% of the total then maybe it's not worth bothering with. You want to hit the ones where you have little to no competition.
To be honest it's been so long since I had a seedbox that I can't really remember, but I reckon if you stick to that method you'll have your 996GB within days.