My position on torrenting gay porn.

[lololulu19]

@frostycab You have never "wasted your time scouring the internet" for the nonsense that does not exist.. Yet you never fail to state that the internet is flooded with examples of gay porn copyright violations which have gone to trial and there was a conviction.

There has never been even one such conviction, there has not been even one case of a gay porn DMCA complaint going to trial.

There have been a mountain of COMPLAINTS of STRAGHT porn videos that are alledged to have violated copyrights. Almost all these complaints were made by the obscure straight porn studio "Strike 3 Holdings". Not one of their complaints ever made it to trial.

And again.. if someone thinks that this site is breaking the law (it is not), then that person needs to disable their account and leave.

[john32123666]

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[frostycab]

@lololulu19 said in My position on torrenting gay porn.:

@frostycab You have never "wasted your time scouring the internet" for the nonsense that does not exist.. Yet you never fail to state that the internet is flooded with examples of gay porn copyright violations which have gone to trial and there was a conviction.

Maybe because people have had enough common sense to settle before their case ever sees the inside of a courtroom? Of course, if you are so convinced that your position is right then go forth and enjoy yourself safe in the knowledge that if you believe it then it must be true.

@lololulu19 said in My position on torrenting gay porn.:

There have been a mountain of COMPLAINTS of STRAGHT porn videos that are alledged to have violated copyrights. Almost all these complaints were made by the obscure straight porn studio "Strike 3 Holdings". Not one of their complaints ever made it to trial.

I don't know how you think this comment helps your case. You've always made a big thing of "gay" porn specifically not being able to be copyrighted to to being definitively "obscene." Now you're saying that even though a straight studio has brought cases against people those too have never made it to court. Once again, do you not think that they probably just settled rather than go through the whole waste of time and money involved in a court battle?

Interestingly, here is a quote form the law site you linked to, though in the interest of full disclosure for all the members like me who are NOT IN AMERICA AND NOT SUBJECT TO US LAW this article only consider the US legal system. I've highlighted the most relevant portions:

"Congress did not make clear if it intended to extend protection to every kind of work. Copyright law does not identify specific content that is ineligible for copyright protection. As a result, copyright law protects pornography because content-based restrictions on copyright eligibility could abridge the freedom of speech of the First Amendment. That said, obscene works do not receive First Amendment protection. In Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15, 93 S.Ct. 2607, 37 L.Ed.2d 419 (1973), the United States Supreme Court found that the First Amendment’s freedom of speech does not apply to obscenity. Specifically, under Miller, obscenity is found when the average person, using contemporary community standards, would find that a work appeals to the prurient interests, depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law, and lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. Thus, the First Amendment protects pornography – if it is not obscene.

This brings us back to the question of what is obscenity. Applying the above test, does the average person find depictions of gay sex offensive? Blah blah blah... There are a lot of conditions in that definition of obscenity, and they'd all need to be shown to apply for any specific piece of gay porn to be considered obscene. Now consider that all of this only applies in the US, and every other country has it's own laws and definitions.

@lololulu19 said in My position on torrenting gay porn.:

And again.. if someone thinks that this site is breaking the law (it is not), then that person needs to disable their account and leave.

Honestly, do you ever actually take a minute to read anything you write before you press the submit button? The site isn't breaking the law because it complies with DMCA. If it was to ignore DMCA entirely then you might just get your wish and have the whole thing put to the test in a court of law somewhere, but thankfully the powers that be aren't dimwitted buffoons who are going put the whole site at risk to satisfy your need to feel validated.

Here's an idea, why don't you go and take this up with Joker and see if you can convince him. After all, you could be preaching to the choir on the forums but that isn't going to change anything. I'm sure he will welcome the opportunity to partake of your informed and inarguable wisdom. He's not an easy person to reach though. What you need to do is contact helpdesk with this code-phrase: "Please delete my account." and they'll put you in touch. It's not a trick, I swear!

@lololulu19 said in My position on torrenting gay porn.:

@john32123666
Seems to me that there is a rule on this site about impersonating a moderator.. which you have repeatedly violated... just saying.

To put the record straight, not once has he ever claimed to be a mod. If you think someone has to be a mod to tell you to stop waffling on constantly then you're wrong. Just saying.

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@lololulu19 said in My position on torrenting gay porn.:

that person needs to disable their account and leave

Perhaps you could set a good example for us and do this yourself.

I have now blocked you from my forum display, so your frivolous and frustrated fecal foolishness will not tarnish my monitor.