Other private trackers?
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this is the only private tracker I've used, and while porn is great, there are some shows that have gone off streaming platforms that I want to watch. I'm using a seedbox now to avoid copyright strikes by my IP, but I'm wondering if it'd be better to use find a private tracker. Anybody feeling generous with invites? Thanks.
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@benignlulz I have never heard of anybody getting a copyright strike for a porn movie (the reason being that XXX porn cannot be copyrighted - which is a topic that I am tired of debating). There is a website to verify whether something is copyrighted or not, and I will pay $50 to the first person that can find a single XXX title from "Bel A" "Stx" or "Hlx" that is copyrighted.
I HAVE gotten copyright strikes for mainstream movies and tv shows and video games.
The best way around them is to use a VPN such as Privado, NordVPN or ExpressVPN. -
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@lololulu19 said in Other private trackers?:
the reason being that XXX porn cannot be copyrighted - which is a topic that I am tired of debating
Link/citation, please. I'd like to read more about that.
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@frostycab I tried finding the link again.. but it seems like now they charge a FEE for searching the database of copyrights. It was FREE a year or two ago.
Here is the basic issue.
Pornography is considered to be obscene, and is NOT protected by the First Amendment. (keep in mind that if a porn movie or live stream features something like mainsteam music playing, you cannot share that porn for the sole reason of the MUSIC being copyrighted - this is why police often play loud music - so you cannot record them and post it to Youtube - which would be a copyright violation because of the music).
In the USA, you can sue anybody about anything - but that doesn't mean you will win. Porn studios realize that selling porn across state lines or on the internet is illegal - so if they were to try and sue someone, the case would be lost before it even started because of a lack of "standing". For instance, in the USA if you hired an escort, but did not pay the escort, the escort could not sue you because escorting (for sex) is not legal. In places like Nevada and Holland, the reverse is true - because escorting for sex is legal there.. and if you don't pay, you go to jail. In this country, the client would go to jail IF they paid, but in Holland the client would go to jail if they did NOT pay! crazy! Another example.. if someone stole your cell phone, you could sue the person who stole it. If someone stole your heroin stash, you could NOT sue them because the heroin is not legal in the USA (Canada is trying to legalized it if they have not already).
You will find a lot of websites which claim that porn IS covered by copyright protection... but the proof is in the pudding.. because you will not find a single case in which someone was successfully sued for copyright infringement of pornographic content - especially GAY content. Gay sex itself is still considered illegal in some states - and will get you executed in some countries. The last time this debate came up on this site, I think someone found a case of porn being successfully litigated in some case in roughly 1972. 50 years ago is quite a stretch. -
@lololulu19 said in Other private trackers?:
Pornography is considered to be obscene
No. This statement is false. Use your search engine of choice and put in "is pornography obscene" and you'll get a lot of hits. (Hint: Pay particular attention to the three-part test in Miller v. California.)
you will not find a single case in which someone was successfully sued for copyright infringement of pornographic content
I haven't looked, and I don't intend to. Even though I've spent a lot of time in Africa, I haven't found any tigers. That doesn't mean that they don't exist.
Give this one a rest. If you want attention, go to your local shopping mall and have a wank in the food court.
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@lololulu19 So many unconnected and disjointed thoughts in one post. I think you've also followed a couple of red herrings, but I'll try to stick to the main point.
Porn, in and of itself, is not obscene, at least not globally. If a court in Texas or Utah was to find that porn was obscene it would not have any effect on its standing in other countries. My understanding is that such a ruling would not even need to be recognised by other states. It's not unlike the situation surrounding marijuana in the US.
Given your numerous references to the US I think you've perhaps focussed your impressions around that and not fully appreciated the issue as viewed in other countries. Though something may be considered obscene somewhere that has very little bearing on whether or not it is able to be copyrighted.
You say that selling porn on the internet is illegal. Where exactly? Does that include The UK? Czech Republic? Netherlands? Germany? Brazil? How are all the porn studios, for instance in California, getting away with it if they're such an outrage to decency? I'm happy to read any citations you can provide to support that argument as it pertains to international copyright, and concede your point if they back up your assertions.
Your point about background music is certainly a valid one, at least here in the UK. I worked in a restaurant that got fined because we had a radio playing in the kitchen that could be heard by people on the phone. A bit petty, I think, but not something you can argue against. The police playing loud music is a new one on me, but that may be a US thing.
In fairness, I can see how you may have some to your conclusions about porn copyright, as I did do a quick Google search and found that the first 20 pages of results all seemed to be from US law firms and media. I read a few articles and the general consensus seems to be that nobody knows is its protected or not. It appears that the US courts at least are unprepared to come to a decision, and as such simply dismiss most cases, usually because the sheer number of cases would threaten to overwhelm the judicial system.
The point is that different countries, and indeed regions within some countries, have differing views on what is obscene as well as how respectful they are of copyrights. In Saudi Arabia all porn sites are apparently banned. China has acquired something of a reputation for ignoring copyrights and patents, at least when they are owned in other countries. None of these these things detract from the fact that the creator of a work, be that written, painted, filmed, played, or anything else which matches the definition, may have that work copyrighted. The only difference is how a particular legal system deals with a claim.
EDIT: Having re-read the original post in this topic, I think we've all gone off on red herrings. I believe @benignlulz was asking about non-porn trackers for TV shows and the like. I also believe his question was directed more to the idea that his ISP might find his internet activity suspicious and investigate, which I completely understand.
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The poor guy comes asking for a private NON-PORN MOVIE/TV tracker and gets to deal with this ridiculous trash juice as answers, the guy even gave up the topic lmao
Make sure you read the topic before awarding us with your insightful remarks.
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@ianfontinell said in Other private trackers?:
...gets to deal with this ridiculous trash juice as answers
Trash juice!
My evening is complete.
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Ah yes, the days of Demonoid and the like seem to be gone. I was looking to download a few movies I already have on Bluray so I could easily watch them and just can't find anything anymore.
Oh well.
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@frostycab Mainstream / non-porn movies, tv shows and games are HEAVILY protected, and those indeed require being very careful.
In regards to sales, I used to sell a software product world-wide which was a utility that was not dependent upon a certain language. For whatever reason, the vast majority of buyers of digital media are in the USA and Canada. In many countries outside of the USA, copyrights are completely ignored. There are also a small number of buyers in places like Australiam France, England, and South America. As for places like Africa, Russia, India, Pakistan, the Mid-East, and Asia - there are very few buyers.
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@lololulu19 said in Other private trackers?:
In regards to sales... As for places like Africa, Russia, India, Pakistan, the Mid-East, and Asia - there are very few buyers.
Product sales for India and Pakistan were slow, as they were sent to The Place That Is Not Asia.
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@lololulu19 said in Other private trackers?:
In many countries outside of the USA, copyrights are completely ignored.
I give up....
