Yet another news story liberal media ain't talkin about
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Besides the named stuff hacked by Hillary and co., the "particular healthcare provider" was Trump's healthcare provider.
Of course, our resident Pelosi Repub will screech some crap about how evil Trump is and how the DNC are innocent victims.
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The silence from the left, including the Pelosi Repubs, is extremely telling.
It proves that the liberal media and the DNC have been lying since 2015.
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@raphjd said in Yet another news story liberal media ain't talkin about:
Besides the named stuff hacked by Hillary and co., the "particular healthcare provider" was Trump's healthcare provider.
Of course, our resident Pelosi Repub will screech some crap about how evil Trump is and how the DNC are innocent victims.
ROFL - this is hilarious! Talk about confusing terms!
According to this talking-head's puppeteers, the act of doing an intense internet search (mining) is equivalent to hacking. Yeah, and intense masturbation causes pregnancy because they're both kinds of sex! Clueless has a new reference for Websters!
According to this dweeb, when the Democrats thought Trump was in collusion with the Russians (something I also suspected, but has never been proven - but that's another story), they actually searched the Internet for evidence! Even the White House (many of whose records are public)! In fact, they even authorized the access of data that was hidden & proprietary. (Unlike the dottering old fool on YouTube, I realized that meant paying for access to archives and independent research - not hacking!). There are tons of research companies that sell access to their data - think LexisNexis for one.
Oh, and the insider - with a Top Secret Security Clearance - apparently violated that trust to support this so-called hack. (This "insider" has a contract to provide DNS services to the White House... something I do for some of my clients who don't want their Internet use "snooped" (not the same as hacking) by their ISPs)...
No, what happened is that the same firm that provided the DNS service to the white house was hired to so some of the searching.... uh, it's what they do! Computer consultants, don't ya know! And given that they have TS clearances, I'm pretty sure they know how to limit access to systems! The likelihood that the researchers got special access to the White House records is about as likely as the Army infiltrating the Navy's computer systems and re-naming one of their aircraft carriers the USS Minnow (Gilligan's Island reference there).... ya, not!Also, this eggheaded moron conflates "data mining" with "hacking and planting data and stories"... I guess his version of a Gem Mine is like those roadside attractions in the mountains where you can pay for a bucket of dirt, sift it in their artificial "river" and "find" the "gems" there in the dirt! Every bucket is guaranteed to have gems (they're planted there, DUH!)
I'm sorry, Mr "I'm outraged because I don't actually understand a word of what I'm reading", but "Data Mining" is searching for data from multiple sources - and, very much like REAL Gem Mining, there is no guarantee of success!
So, in essence, this guy (who makes Patrick on SpongeBob SquarePants look like a genius) is all "up in arms" that a Democrat who lost a close election in opposition to their own polling data trying to prove there was Russian Interference! (Can I get a "Pot calling the Kettle black reference here?)Which brings me to the whole point of even writing a response:
The latest Trumpite defense for all this election fraud hoax is that "Hillary did it first"... which is absurd - absurd enough they have to go to the lengths above to try to support it... but there are flaws:
- Now they want to hold up Hillary Clinton - far from a paragon of virtue and morals - as the ideal Democrat
Why is that farcical? Because Hillary Clinton was the most despised presidential candidate in history! Not just by Republicans, but by wade margins in the Dem party too! (The 2016 election cycle set, and then broke, records for most disliked candidates... 1 and 2 in the record books!) - There is a difference between asserting that your opponent colluded with others (Russians, or whomever) to confuse and influence the American Voter, and thereby swaying an election...
it is wholly another thing to claim that the American Voting System is itself corrupt and was hacked, thereby swaying an election.
As has been discussed in here ad-nauseum already: you cannot "hack" the American Voting System - because there isn't one system to hack! There are thousands!
I'm not one to agree with the likes of Joe Scarborough, but even he thinks this is so poorly thought out as to be - in his words - "Willfully Stupid" (source)
- Now they want to hold up Hillary Clinton - far from a paragon of virtue and morals - as the ideal Democrat
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You can't admit that you believed the lies because you have extreme TDS.
You are so pathetic.
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@raphjd said in Yet another news story liberal media ain't talkin about:
You can't admit that you believed the lies because you have extreme TDS.
You are so pathetic.
I'm sorry - I don't believe, and never have, that Hillary actually won the 2016 election!
I remained neutral as to the idea that Trump illegally colluded with the Russians. I was concerned that the Justice Dept. considered the President "untouchable" - and still think that is a DANGEROUS precedent!
I said at the time that, given what the Justice Dept and the Special Prosecutor said (which was that they couldn't charge Trump with a crime at that time), that the proof would be in the pudding once Trump was out of office. If he really DID break the law, but they couldn't touch him because he was President, then they'd charge him once that "blocker" was removed.
That never happened. Which leads me to the conclusion that they really did find "nothing or not enough" evidence of collusion with the Russians (or any other foreign element) to warrant a charge.
That doesn't mean the Russians (and the Chinese and Iranians - to name the biggest players) didn't work (like never before) to influence the election!
Mind you, influencing voters is exactly what every campaign does... what's new here is the amount of effort put into this influencing that was made by foreign entities! What with the Internet blurring lines in so many other parts of our lives, why not politics?
Here are some hard facts about American Politics:
- If you can lie convincingly enough to get voters to vote for you, you win
- If voters are dumb enough to believe the lies, their votes still count, and you win
- If voters are confused enough and choose to either not vote, or vote a 3rd party, and you get more votes because of it... you win
There are no intelligence tests for American Voters...
- Stupid people's votes count exactly as much as Nobel Laureates' votes.
- Racist people's votes count exactly as much as non-racist one's
- When stupid people are confused by the ballot itself and mark their votes for the wrong people - it doesn't matter (ask Al Gore) - what you voted is what you voted, and it counts - the same as everyone else's
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You are such a liar.
Anything and everything bad said about Trump you automatically believe, because you, like every other liberal, have extreme TDS.
I believed there was interference because it makes sense and we have the evidence. You believed that there was collusion because your leftist "news" media said so.
You liberals can't pretend this away as you did with Hunter's laptop.
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@raphjd said in Yet another news story liberal media ain't talkin about:
You are such a liar.
Anything and everything bad said about Trump you automatically believe, because you, like every other liberal, have extreme TDS.
I believed there was interference because it makes sense and we have the evidence. You believed that there was collusion because your leftist "news" media said so.
You liberals can't pretend this away as you did with Hunter's laptop.
You're missing the point - on at least 2 marks:
- There is/was a difference between Russian INTERFERENCE in 2016 (proven - beyond a doubt) and Russian COLLUSION with the Trump Campaign (not proven, and with the lack of charges coming after the Trump term ended, the Dem's can't hide behind the "he's being protected by the Justice Dept" claim any longer).
- The issue at hand then was that, while there were complaints of Russian interference - with or without Trump Campaign assistance - in 2016, there was no attempt to claim the vote was stolen or invalid... only that people were duped, lied to, and in some few cases, coerced into voting for Trump (or at least NOT voting for Hillary)...
There were no claims then that the votes were fraudulent, only that the people who cast those votes didn't know better.
For what it's worth, I didn't buy it then, and I don't buy it now - the truthfulness isn't what's at issue though... that election is long gone, and Trump's term has come and gone. What DOES matter is that, in spite of the "cheating" claims, no one attempted to change the vote totals or the outcome of the election... they just wanted to "expose the cheating" (and in the Dem's view, de-legitimize Trump's presidency).
Do you think Thomas Dewey didn't claim "something was up" when Harry Truman beat him in 1948? Of course he did! He claimed all kinds of shenanigans were used to beat him! Many (most) of which were illegal - like LITERALLY buying votes in some cities! BUT Dewey didn't claim Truman didn't get the votes - only that they were ill-gotten. - The issue today is that, and I strongly suspect that is with the help - knowingly or otherwise - of the Russians and other US adversaries, the Trumpite / Q-Anon factions aren't just claiming Joe Biden cheated - they're claiming that thousands of election workers around the country - even Republican ones - cheated.
And this calls into question the very legitimacy of Democracy... if you ask me, it's beyond un-patriotic... and those who participated in the Jan 6 insurrection (with the intent of stopping the transfer of power) are guilty of treason.
(Be glad I'm not the Federal Judge hearing their cases! They'd be given the option: life in prison (Leavenworth, not some cozy Club Fed) or be stripped of US Citizenship and expelled to the country of their choice - with a lifetime ban on ever stepping foot in the US or its territories again.)
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Why did Dems do exactly what the Carter/Baker Commission said would harm elections most?
Of course you would, you are a Pelosi Repub.
You support domestic terrorism when certain groups do it, but you are against not even insurrection (according to Garland).
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@raphjd said in Yet another news story liberal media ain't talkin about:
Why did Dems do exactly what the Carter/Baker Commission said would harm elections most?
Of course you would, you are a Pelosi Repub.
You support domestic terrorism when certain groups do it, but you are against not even insurrection (according to Garland).
I am not the Straw Man you're looking for...
Yes, back to that again... you should've learned last time that that tactic doesn't work with me...
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OK dearie.