UK liberal media reporting on health issues
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@raphjd said in UK liberal media reporting on health issues:
I don't know - "too much freedom" can be daunting. In the 1970's and 1980's there were a number of Soviet dissidents that made it to the US as political refugees.... they were unable to function in a simple grocery store. How do you choose between 50 different kinds of toilet paper, when you've only known ONE? Or breakfast cereals?
The point here isn't that freedom is bad - only that it can be overwhelming... and stressful!
I have seen this in some of my own children when they first move away from home. They thought they were prepared, but then they have to remember to pay the rent, the power, the water, the insurance, the garbage, the cable, the Internet, the credit cards... ALL THOSE BILLS! Then you also have to make your own Dr & dentist appointments, AND schedule the time off from work, AND convince your boss you're not "playing hookie" AND deal with / plan for the reduction of income because you're not working all of your regular shifts... and and and!
It's overwhelming at first... but you adjust (I refer to it as "Adulting 101")
But adding stress DOES often result in cardiac issues... but that doesn't mean all stress is bad!
Suicide rates SKYROCKET around the holidays... but that doesn't mean we cancel Christmas!
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@bi4smooth said
I don't know - "too much freedom" can be daunting. In the 1970's and 1980's there were a number of Soviet dissidents that made it to the US as political refugees.... they were unable to function in a simple grocery store. How do you choose between 50 different kinds of toilet paper, when you've only known ONE? Or breakfast cereals?
Good example
The point here isn't that freedom is bad - only that it can be overwhelming... and stressful!
Only to people who have never had Freedom before. Not to the 99.99% of the population of the UK who were born in a free-ish country.
I have seen this in some of my own children when they first move away from home. They thought they were prepared, but then they have to remember to pay the rent, the power, the water, the insurance, the garbage, the cable, the Internet, the credit cards... ALL THOSE BILLS! Then you also have to make your own Dr & dentist appointments, AND schedule the time off from work, AND convince your boss you're not "playing hookie" AND deal with / plan for the reduction of income because you're not working all of your regular shifts... and and and!
It's overwhelming at first... but you adjust (I refer to it as "Adulting 101")That could be alleviated in Childern who are taught life lesson by their parents (I refer to it as "Parenting 101")
But adding stress DOES often result in cardiac issues... but that doesn't mean all stress is bad!
True but it doesn't cause it in young people nor does climate changes cause heart attacks.
Suicide rates SKYROCKET around the holidays... but that doesn't mean we cancel Christmas!
True but it has nothing to do with the post.
The articles our examples of the controlling nanny state using FEAR to keep their subjects in line and scared so they don't stand up for their Freedom and no longer need the parental government.
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@geobear40 said in UK liberal media reporting on health issues:
@bi4smooth said
The point here isn't that freedom is bad - only that it can be overwhelming... and stressful!
Only to people who have never had Freedom before. Not to the 99.99% of the population of the UK who were born in a free-ish country.
Your percentage is a bit hyperbolic - but it is TRUE that people born with choices are more comfortable with them, just as people born without them are more comfortable without them. (I know many people who prefer "smaller stores" because they get overwhelmed by the larger ones - but, mind you, I know some of these people because of the volunteer work I do - so I am aware that my "experience" out-sizes the typical population sample).
I have seen this in some of my own children when they first move away from home. They thought they were prepared, but then they have to remember to pay the rent, the power, the water, the insurance, the garbage, the cable, the Internet, the credit cards... ALL THOSE BILLS! Then you also have to make your own Dr & dentist appointments, AND schedule the time off from work, AND convince your boss you're not "playing hookie" AND deal with / plan for the reduction of income because you're not working all of your regular shifts... and and and!
It's overwhelming at first... but you adjust (I refer to it as "Adulting 101")That could be alleviated in Childern who are taught life lesson by their parents (I refer to it as "Parenting 101")
Your implication that my example of my own children shows poor parenting is pedantic and offensive. I have raised 9 children to adult-hood, and helped raise over 100 more. I actually have a certificate from NACAC (North American Council on Adoptable Children) for being a "Professional Parent." My 20 y/o daughter just bought a new car - her 815 credit score got her the loan at 2.5% APR... I think my kids are (have been) prepared for adulthood just fine - but the shock of doing it ALL on your OWN is still one they all experience!
But adding stress DOES often result in cardiac issues... but that doesn't mean all stress is bad!
True but it doesn't cause it in young people nor does climate changes cause heart attacks.
Wow, you sure like to generalize - 4 of my kids have cardiac issues where high levels of stress DO INDEED cause their hearts to react abnormally. The same 20 y/o with the 815 credit score above wears a heart monitor due to a type of A-Fib - a condition more COMMON to older people, but she has it - go figure! (The damage some of these bio-parents did to their children either prenatally, or in infancy, is enough to tear your heartstrings clean out!)
Suicide rates SKYROCKET around the holidays... but that doesn't mean we cancel Christmas!
True but it has nothing to do with the post.
Sigh - a simple allegory... what's more, it supports (kind of) your position! My point is that, while it may be true that some people are having cardiac issues as a result of worrying about, or even as a more direct result of, climate change, that is not sufficient - in and of itself - to warrant $billions of spending to ameliorate their issues.
The articles our examples of the controlling nanny state using FEAR to keep their subjects in line and scared so they don't stand up for their Freedom and no longer need the parental government.
I disagree - this isn't a "nanny state" attempting to control us, but rather, to me, this is a "climate change" interest group attempting (with a bit of a reach, IMHO) to tie their cause to additional "catastrophic" results. It's exaggerated at best, if not hyperbolic.
My point HERE is: we seem to agree that the reporting is bunk. We appear to disagree on WHY!
Happy Holidays!
