You shouldnt use NORDVPN for torrenting anymore.
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I just found out, that NORDVPN, that has been promoting free data and privacy like crazy over the years has gone over to the dark side.
They say that they don't have anything against P2P, but they throttle the upload speed to 0 INCASE you do something illegal, Privacy is "a state in which one is not observed or disturbed by other people." that is something they no longer adhere to.
I do understand that people use VPN to illegal things, duh..
If i want to upload something or download in privacy and they spy on what software you use (example) that is no longer privacy. VPN is security for privacy.
That policy makes you a criminal by default even when you actually upload your own stuff.
its sad.
this is not my first language, so im sorry for spelling etc
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To start off, your English is good.
Most VPNs lie about what they do and don't do. Many also have political agendas.
A couple of years ago, NordVPN users had to turn off their VPN so they could access this site. It took a couple/few months but it was eventually solved.
I won't use SurfShark because they are leftists and have made some pretty nasty comments about people they disagree with.
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@kima112 said in You shouldnt use NORDVPN for torrenting anymore.:
I just found out, that NORDVPN, that has been promoting free data and privacy like crazy over the years has gone over to the dark side.
They say that they don't have anything against P2P, but they throttle the upload speed to 0 INCASE you do something illegal, Privacy is "a state in which one is not observed or disturbed by other people." that is something they no longer adhere to.
I do understand that people use VPN to illegal things, duh..
If i want to upload something or download in privacy and they spy on what software you use (example) that is no longer privacy. VPN is security for privacy.
That policy makes you a criminal by default even when you actually upload your own stuff.
its sad.
this is not my first language, so im sorry for spelling etc
I'm guessing your mileage is different, but I use NordVPN personally, and have no issues uploading (or downloading) content on their P2P servers (you DO need to use their P2P servers, not the standard ones!)...
There are also issues with their service if you allow too many network connections... I limit my per-torrent connections to 8 (I like powers of 2 in computing!) - but if you think about it, that makes sense: hundreds of users on a single server, only 60K ports to use all-total (a TCP thing, not a config thing)...
Anyway, I just thought I'd chime in with my personal experience... I don't know why you're having issues... and I can't really offer to help you debug... but I (myself) am not having the issue you're reporting... maybe call their customer service?
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@bi4smooth
From summer I cann´t upload and download ! Nothing! And of course that I had used P2P servers from start, and try with proxy as Nord say at their help pages but NOTHING.
So, I do not believe to you! -
@bi4smooth Hi, that is what they told me after i asked them why my upload was 0.
and i was using p2p servers. they even said it was a feature.They throttle the upload speed because they are an "international company"
they do say " we dont condone etc" when it comes to torrenting but they still throttle.
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@georgeval820 said in You shouldnt use NORDVPN for torrenting anymore.:
@bi4smooth
From summer I cann´t upload and download ! Nothing! And of course that I had used P2P servers from start, and try with proxy as Nord say at their help pages but NOTHING.
So, I do not believe to you!Well, fortunately I'm not Tinker Bell, so I don't need for you to believe in me... but I will say that my NordVPN subscription is 7+ years old now, and I've successfully seeded over 25TB of data thru this tracker.
I originally used the SOCKS-5 Proxy setup directly on my torrent client (vs. the Windows Client), but they stopped supporting that at all... so now I use a Windows VM (that I wind up throwing away periodically - for virus infections, as I do not install AV or MalwareBytes on the VM) with the NordVPN Windows client and qBitTorrent... the VM stores the downloads onto a NAS device...
I do nothing to the NordVPN setup (other than bouncing around the globe), and very little to the qBitTorrent setup (beyond what the tutorial here suggested).
I just dl'd a FreeLeech torrent today - 9.3 GB - it downloaded with an average speed of 14 MBps and is currently seeding at a rate of 1.5 MBps (only 2 leechers are connected to me, out of 18 - too bad for the others because I can seed at over 50 MBps for whose who have the bandwidth!)
Look - I'm not saying you aren't having an issue... I'm sure you are! (I recommend re-installing the NordVPN AND torrent clients from scratch and trying again)...
What I am saying is that I'm using it as described above and not having an issue.
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I use NordVPN and other than the problem I mentioned in an earlier post that happened a while back, I don't really have any issues using them.
I do wonder if this current issue is related to where people live and not NordVPN as a whole.
In the past, there have been server nodes in various parts of the world that have gone down and traffic in that/those areas slowed down until the server nodes replaced.
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I have to agree with the other's comments, I have been using NordVPN for 5 years and have managed to upload 4.4tb and download a similar amount on just this site. Mostly I have it set on the P2P setting, sometimes not, but get pretty similar speeds.
As for the SOCKS5, I am currently pointing at atlanta.us.socks.nordhold.net and it is working. I tend to leave that on in qBittorrent because I have had a couple instances where my system restarted the qBittorrent and I didn't have the VPN running at the time (turned it off to let a friend connect to my Plex server) and got one of those nasty "you were being a bad boy" emails from my FiOS provider.
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@mrker1234 said in You shouldnt use NORDVPN for torrenting anymore.:
I have to agree with the other's comments, I have been using NordVPN for 5 years and have managed to upload 4.4tb and download a similar amount on just this site. Mostly I have it set on the P2P setting, sometimes not, but get pretty similar speeds.
As for the SOCKS5, I am currently pointing at atlanta.us.socks.nordhold.net and it is working. I tend to leave that on in qBittorrent because I have had a couple instances where my system restarted the qBittorrent and I didn't have the VPN running at the time (turned it off to let a friend connect to my Plex server) and got one of those nasty "you were being a bad boy" emails from my FiOS provider.
Ewww.... I got one of those - which is why I switched to a VPN... I used another one for a while, at first, but then read that their "no logging" policy was a lie... an email to their support revealed that they kept no "long term" logs... that was enough for me to ditch them in an instant. I've been with NordVPN since (NOTE:Always re-up with one of their sales!)
I was not aware that the socks5 proxy issue had been resolved... I'll try that on a system and see... thanks for sharing your use-case!
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@bi4smooth JSYK, I sporadically see an issue with a torrent getting started when SOCKS5 is up. In that case, I make sure the VPN is on and turn off SOCKS5 and once it starts can turn it back on. It isn't often, and not a big deal to me to make sure I have torrent actually started before walking away.
I'm not technical enough to know why even on those torrents it hesitated with, it works fine once downloading. My theory is that is having issue with tracker site, but once stared is dealing directly with the downloader. -
@mrker1234 said in You shouldnt use NORDVPN for torrenting anymore.:
@bi4smooth JSYK, I sporadically see an issue with a torrent getting started when SOCKS5 is up. In that case, I make sure the VPN is on and turn off SOCKS5 and once it starts can turn it back on. It isn't often, and not a big deal to me to make sure I have torrent actually started before walking away.
I'm not technical enough to know why even on those torrents it hesitated with, it works fine once downloading. My theory is that is having issue with tracker site, but once stared is dealing directly with the downloader.I have not been able to get a SOCKS5 connection going in my qBitTorrent... and since what I have works, I'm not really motivated to find out why LOL
I will add one more thing... sometimes, when I tire of the limited countries that have P2P servers available, I'll connect to a "regular" location - and I've never had an issue there either. In fact, if anything, the non-P2P sites tend to be a little faster? I think maybe because Nord is so heavily used for P2P-ers, the P2P servers get more heavily loaded... just my opinion/guess: I have no way of testing that theory without too many other variables...
