copyright infringement
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I post a torrent that is DVD quality but yet other torrents that are the same titles stay up? Who do I contact about that? And what's the issue with mine but not theirs?
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@looselips said in copyright infringement:
I post a torrent that is DVD quality but yet other torrents that are the same titles stay up? Who do I contact about that? And what's the issue with mine but not theirs?
The in's and out's of DMCA reports are complicated - because they're set out - literally line by line - in law.
A "properly formatted" DMCA take down request has to have specific language in it, we well as links to the offending material. The site is under no obligation to "expand" any search for similar materials. (And to be sure, we wouldn't want that!)
So, if you got a note that your torrent was taken down for an DMCA request, then know that whoever sent the request supplied a link to your torrent... but not links to other torrents that may indeed have the same general content.
A friend of mine is a moderator on a different (non-porn) site, and they get a good laugh over some DMCA take-down requests - because they'll reference a DUPLICATE but not the original. So, they have to take down the duplicate, but they do not have to take down the original. (It's up to the "requestor" to identify any and all offending material... whatever they leave out, the site can leave in!)
I don't like DMCA takedown requests any more than you or anyone else - but they are a fact of life. In my (relatively long) experience, different sources go on DMCA "kicks" for a while - which is annoying, to be sure - but then they die down when they realize they're fighting a losing battle!
Both Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher studios once attempted to track down and PROSECUTE file sharers (both seeders and leechers)... they charges a few & even won some cases... but in the end it was too expensive to continue (in other words, their expenses with lawyers outweighed their losses from the illegal sharing).
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@looselips Yeah, it stinks. Especially if a lot of time and effort has been put into it. Hence, the reason why I don't share as much is that I'm very detail-oriented. I've always been since young adolescence. It's a terrible trait to have and I think a lot of that has to do with me being a competitive person. But, going back to your original post, it sucks. I can empathize. Because when time and effort are both involved, it doesn't outweigh or even provide a fair equilibrium to the outcome.
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@djsoapbubble said in copyright infringement:
@looselips Yeah, it stinks. Especially if a lot of time and effort has been put into it. Hence, the reason why I don't share as much is that I'm very detail-oriented. I've always been since young adolescence. It's a terrible trait to have and I think a lot of that has to do with me being a competitive person. But, going back to your original post, it sucks. I can empathize. Because when time and effort are both involved, it doesn't outweigh or even provide a fair equilibrium to the outcome.
I have had some minor luck in re-posting the same torrent (with minor changes - like adding a pic) about a month or so after the DMCA, and in some cases they've "taken"...
But, for example, I once posted 10 complete "movies" (collections of 4-6 scenes) from one studio... these were older - like 10 years ago... 2 were DMCA'd, the rest were not. Go figure!
Let's not forget here that we're technically sharing copyrighted material - porn or otherwise!
I personally take a "don't look a gift-horse in the mouth" approach! "Free porn" is just that!
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@bi4smooth i just got 1o DMCAs in 2 days . Damn
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@dorftimbre said in copyright infringement:
@bi4smooth i just got 1o DMCAs in 2 days . Damn
Damn - that's a lot! I would guess mostly OF content?
In my experience, after a few months, this kind of DMCA "firestorm" dies down... it has in the past...
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So, who are these people who report? Are you saying people like Tim Kruger or Cutler X monitor gay torrent sites and click the report button? If not, then do they hire someone? I thought GayTorrent.ru was private now and only open to an invitation. I am so confused right now, lol!
Honestly, if I had a job position from what I just described above, then I would be bored to heavenly tears.
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@djsoapbubble said in copyright infringement:
So, who are these people who report? Are you saying people like Tim Kruger or Cutler X monitor gay torrent sites and click the report button? If not, then do they hire someone? I thought GayTorrent.ru was private now and only open to an invitation. I am so confused right now, lol!
Honestly, if I had a job position from what I just described above, then I would be bored to heavenly tears.
There are likely programs in place (called spiders [or spyders]) that do it for you... my guess is that it's the OF site itself running the spider, not any single or group of models. (Though it may also be an opt-in for the creators - after all, it protects THEIR cash-flow!)
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@bi4smooth Gotcha. I'm just trying to understand is all. And with OnlyFans? Wowwww! I don't pay OnlyFans no mind. In fact, I laugh at it as there are some people that take their page way too seriously. You'll probably see 'OnlyFans' on one of those comical VH-1 series where comedians reminisce the past with pop culture.
Oh my God! I can see it already! Hahahahahaha! This is just too stupid. I love it!
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It's a load of manure.
I have posted many videos which were taken down for copyright infringement because someone complained.. yet the same titles posted by other people in different sizes remain on the site.
I think one reason is because the poster of the other sized videos doesn't want there to be other versions posted - taking download points from theirs.
They don't verify if the complainer is a valid complainer before removing the torrents. They should delay removing torrents until at least 24 hours after the fake complaint is made to verify it.
Actually, this does not happen much anymore. It used to be that I could not upload ANYTHING without it being taken down almost immediately.
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@lololulu19 said in copyright infringement:
It's a load of manure.
I have posted many videos which were taken down for copyright infringement because someone complained.. yet the same titles posted by other people in different sizes remain on the site.
I think one reason is because the poster of the other sized videos doesn't want there to be other versions posted - taking download points from theirs.
They don't verify if the complainer is a valid complainer before removing the torrents. They should delay removing torrents until at least 24 hours after the fake complaint is made to verify it.
Actually, this does not happen much anymore. It used to be that I could not upload ANYTHING without it being taken down almost immediately.
I have explained this before: It doesn't work the way you think it does... a DMCA notice doesn't come in and say "take down all your OF content please!"
They have to provide the actual links to the actual infringing material - AND they have to be legal representatives of the copyright holder.
I've mentioned before, I have a friend who works for a non-porn related site, and they've had re-posts of pics and short videos DMCA'd, but the original - from which they were copied, are not mentioned... and so can stay!
So, let's say you post "OF ABC Part 1 of 3" in 720p, and someone else posts "OF ABC Part 1 of 3" in 4k... when the DMCA notice comes in, it has to mention BOTH VERSIONS, or else ONLY the version mentioned is taken down.
Believe me - this works in our favor - even if you are the one (of multiples) whose upload was removed!
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@bi4smooth said in copyright infringement:
@lololulu19 said in copyright infringement:
It's a load of manure.
I have posted many videos which were taken down for copyright infringement because someone complained.. yet the same titles posted by other people in different sizes remain on the site.
I think one reason is because the poster of the other sized videos doesn't want there to be other versions posted - taking download points from theirs.
They don't verify if the complainer is a valid complainer before removing the torrents. They should delay removing torrents until at least 24 hours after the fake complaint is made to verify it.
Actually, this does not happen much anymore. It used to be that I could not upload ANYTHING without it being taken down almost immediately.
I have explained this before: It doesn't work the way you think it does... a DMCA notice doesn't come in and say "take down all your OF content please!"
They have to provide the actual links to the actual infringing material - AND they have to be legal representatives of the copyright holder.
I've mentioned before, I have a friend who works for a non-porn related site, and they've had re-posts of pics and short videos DMCA'd, but the original - from which they were copied, are not mentioned... and so can stay!
So, let's say you post "OF ABC Part 1 of 3" in 720p, and someone else posts "OF ABC Part 1 of 3" in 4k... when the DMCA notice comes in, it has to mention BOTH VERSIONS, or else ONLY the version mentioned is taken down.
Believe me - this works in our favor - even if you are the one (of multiples) whose upload was removed!
I can't speak for this site, but at my friend's, they literally click on the URL to make sure it's exactly what they claim is in violation... then they remove ONLY that material. Sometimes, it's a picture in an array of pics, and they only show 1 or 2 in the DMCA notice.. so there are holes in the array - often of the same person - and the other pics are all left alone!
If you are the person processing the DMCA request, this is how its' done - you don't go LOOKING for material to remove, you remove only what is specifically and legally required to be! NOTHING MORE!
