Minnesota surgeon fired from hospital for saying parents, not government, .....
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Minnesota surgeon, Dr. Jeffrey Horak, was fired from his job at Lake Region Healthcare Hospital for saying that parents, not the government, should be making medical decisions for their children.
He was fired after speaking at the Fergus Falls school district meeting earlier this month.
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I don't understand that happened to Minnesota. That is the fictional location of the news program in "The Mary Tyler Moore" show.
Minnesota is generally considered to be loaded with scandanavians - who are extremely intelligent, but somehow... it has been overrun by assholes such as Ilhan Omar. It also used to have Jesse "The Body" Ventura as governor. -
@raphjd said in Minnesota surgeon fired from hospital for saying parents, not government, .....:
Minnesota surgeon, Dr. Jeffrey Horak, was fired from his job at Lake Region Healthcare Hospital for saying that parents, not the government, should be making medical decisions for their children.
He was fired after speaking at the Fergus Falls school district meeting earlier this month.
On its face, this is a 1st Amendment violation - Lake Regional Healthcare is a Gov't run hospital. The 1st Amendment protects citizens from Gov't reprisals for exercising their free speech rights.
However, if you get more facts, you'll see that Dr. Horak's employer is a private company: Lake Region Medical Group - who are contracted to provide Doctors to the Gov't owned hospital.
This is a convoluted and complicated system of shuffling papers and shell corporations - all primarily designed to protect the hospital (and the Gov't) from malpractice and other types of lawsuits. The Drs don't like it, the hospitals don't like it, and the plaintiffs attorneys don't like it... only the defense attys (who are employed by the hospitals) like it - because it helps them hide from lawsuits!
Because the ACTUAL employer is a private company, and because he signed an "at-will" employment contract - 16 years ago - there isn't anything the Dr can do but put up a new shingle elsewhere... which is sad.
Again, this is an issue where @raphjd and I will agree that it's "wrong", but he will want to have some kind of Gov't interference (laws or rules), where I think that, although it's unnecessarily convoluted - and done so for a nefarious purpose - it is, as the laws are right now, perfectly legal.
We need to fix our medical system in the US - if this were the UK, or Canada, or Australia, then this Dr. would have been employed by the Gov't owned hospital, and would have been protected by the 1st Amendment... But THAT is not why we need to fix our healthcare system! It would just be a byproduct.
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Minnesota got loaded up with Somalis by the Obama Admin. There are several places around the US that had this happen, though most are smaller places, so the burden of the forced Somali relocations was even harder on them.
Obama and Co lied, when they promised to support the places they dumped off these "refugees". NOPE, instead, they dropped them off and told the local governments "Here they are ya bitches. Now take care of them and leave us alone".
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@raphjd said in Minnesota surgeon fired from hospital for saying parents, not government, .....:
Minnesota got loaded up with Somalis by the Obama Admin. There are several places around the US that had this happen, though most are smaller places, so the burden of the forced Somali relocations was even harder on them.
Obama and Co lied, when they promised to support the places they dumped off these "refugees". NOPE, instead, they dropped them off and told the local governments "Here they are ya bitches. Now take care of them and leave us alone".
I'd love to see that memo - was it on White House stationery?
Oh the look on their face when they learned they'd been horns-waggled by the Dems again! Oh wait, that's Minnesota? Yeah - mostly Dems there anyway... they get what they deserve!
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@raphjd OH! That makes sense! I would like to see them send a load of Haitian refugees with diseases that are not even identified to exist yet.. and move them nextdoor to people like Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Adam Schitt, Chuck Shyster, etc.
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There is an episode of Southpark where Cartman arranges for all the hippies and homeless to be sent to San Diego. -
I wonder if Feng Feng realizes that virtually no US hospital is 100% private. I would say that 100% of them get at least some government money, which makes them quasi-government agents.
It's the same for ALL businesses, schools, hospitals, etc, etc, etc, etc that gets government money.
Also a correction. About 1/3rd of UK hospitals are privately owned and this number is rising. Most doctors at private hospitals double-dip by working both at the NHS and privately. My private ENT doctor is also the head of the ENT depart at the NHS for my city.
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@raphjd said in Minnesota surgeon fired from hospital for saying parents, not government, .....:
I wonder if Feng Feng realizes that virtually no US hospital is 100% private. I would say that 100% of them get at least some government money, which makes them quasi-government agents.
It's the same for ALL businesses, schools, hospitals, etc, etc, etc, etc that gets government money.
Also a correction. About 1/3rd of UK hospitals are privately owned and this number is rising. Most doctors at private hospitals double-dip by working both at the NHS and privately. My private ENT doctor is also the head of the ENT depart at the NHS for my city.
It doesn't matter who owns the hospitals in the US, because the hospitals don't actually hire DOCTORS to staff them! They hire "consulting companies" to provide the physicians...
It's all part of a corporate shell game intended to thwart personal injury attorneys from getting massive payouts for medical mistakes/failures/omissions/malpractice/etc.
SOMETHING had to be done to stop the PI lawyers, and attempts at legislating a solution were successfully blocked by the PI Attorney lobbies... So, this is the "fix" - wrap everyone around "corporate shields" that insulate each layer from liability from any other layer.
Unfortunately, as I pointed out, this Dr is now employed by a private company, meaning he has no 1st Amendment right to free speech. His employer can fire him for his speech, for his haircut, or for having improperly groomed pinkie fingernails... and his employment contract makes that very clear.
This isn't right - he shouldn't have been fired. Don't take my description of why it's legal as an agreement that it should be!!
