Steve King is proof that #45 has emboldened white supremacists
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LOL, you don't like me not obeying your demands to only Trump hate, so I'm irrational. Gotta love it. :cheers:
If those that voted for Trump are X, Y and Z because they voted for Trump, then the same for those that voted for Hillary.
Just because Hillary didn't win, means nothing. You and anyone who supported her hate gays and women, because Saudi Arabia supported her.
Saudi Arabia donated to the Clinton Foundation charity. So did many other countries. Norway gave more money than Saudi Arabia too.
The Clinton Foundation which used that money to help disenfranchised individuals all around the world get access to medication for HIV/AIDs and malaria and also set up networks that provide accessible and equitable healthcare.
Trump on the other hand registered eight companies in Saudi Arabia during his campaign while at the same time saying that he would never take Saudi money. He is also in talks with Mr. Son, who runs a front for Saudi money to the tune of $100 billion dollars, 45 billion of which is Saudi. This will allow Saudi money to take over many companies in Sillicon Valley.
Is doing business directly with the royal family, or letting Saudi investors take control of American companies the same fucking thing as using Saudi money to fund solutions for healthcare?
AND? Trump is a douche bag, so what?!
RC doesn't care about any of that, he just wants to scream "racism" at white people.
Saudi is still killing gays and women, regardless if they give money to the Clinton charity. So Hillary isn't as innocent as you want us to think.
I think you missed the point… You need to calm down a bit.
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I am calm. Not sure why you'd say I'm not.
RC is claiming guilt by association, while ignoring his side's guilt by association. Actually, he's demanding :blink: that the topic is forbidden in HIS thread.
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I am calm. Not sure why you'd say I'm not.
RC is claiming guilt by association, while ignoring his side's guilt by association. Actually, he's demanding :blink: that the topic is forbidden in HIS thread.
How is asking you to refute my claims "ignoring my side's guilt?" What you are trying to do is minimize what this topic is about by bringing an irrelevant argument. Like I've said, I made an argument backed up by reputable sources and instead of providing your own sources to refute those claims, you tried to deflect and you never even attempted to refute my claims. You know what that means? 95-98% of what you say is wholly irrational based on either some mild form of mental illness or just old-fashioned racism. Hard to discern which it is or if it's a combination of both. <<< my standard reply to you from now on (I gave you ample chances this time)
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NOPE. You do not get to control this topic.
You said anyone who voted for or supported Trump is guilty by extension. Of course I'm not surprised at all that you're butt hurt because I use that same logic against you.
Since that is your claim, then it applies in all cases. Or are you just doing this to scream "racism" again?
AND AGAIN, you don't get to dictate what is and is not allowed in this thread.
If you want to apply my logic to me, that's fine.
That's not what I'm arguing against. I am arguing that the election of #45 has inspired white nationalists and white supremacists to come out of hiding and take pride in their racism, and I used Rep. Steve King (R-IA) and his recent white nationalist and white supremacist language as an example. Instead of refuting my claims, which you must agree with, you've made attempts to equalize things that Hillary Clinton has allegedly supported (without any substantial proof to back up those claims by the way). Why are you trying to minimize the effects of white nationalism and white supremacy instead of refuting that they actually exist and they have damaging effects on society? Is it because Steve King's words are so well-known? Is it because the Republican party in Congress has given him chairmanship of committees and subcommittees despite his support for white nationalism and white supremacy? There has to be a reason why you do not take white nationalism and white supremacy speech coming from an elected official seriously. Is it because you yourself support it?
I condemn the things you accuse Hillary Clinton of yet I have not heard you condemn the hate speech from white nationalists like Steve Bannon, Steve King and #45 himself. Where is your condemnation? Where are your sources that prove what I'm saying about King, Bannon and #45 are wrong?
Accusing Steve Bannon of being a "white nationalist" is just delusional and detached from reality at this point. The only people that think Steve Bannon is some kind of anti-semite or racist are the uninformed that are insulated from facts. Even the ADL walked back their accusations of Steve Bannon being anti-semitic or racists. Literally the ONLY "proof" they could come up with is that the comment section on some articles had some racist trolls in them, which by that logic would also mean Youtube is responsible for racist trolls commenting on youtube videos, and would also mean youtube endorses racism.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/stephen-bannon-five-things-to-know
Trump has condemned racism, white nationalism, etc more times than any of us can count. I certainly condemn racism, in ALL forms, but the left has yet to condemn their own racist anti-white, anti-semitic people. The left was getting ready to prop up well known anti-semitic racist Keith Ellison as their DNC chair, and NOBODY condemned his hateful speech which emboldened anti-semitic "liberal" racists. Or the fact that the left supports openly racist policies such as BDS movement which has emboldened anti-semites everywhere. The left in America will go the same way as Corbyn's party if they continue to refuse to condemn racism on their OWN side. -
I am calm. Not sure why you'd say I'm not.
RC is claiming guilt by association, while ignoring his side's guilt by association. Actually, he's demanding :blink: that the topic is forbidden in HIS thread.
How is asking you to refute my claims "ignoring my side's guilt?" What you are trying to do is minimize what this topic is about by bringing an irrelevant argument. Like I've said, I made an argument backed up by reputable sources and instead of providing your own sources to refute those claims, you tried to deflect and you never even attempted to refute my claims. You know what that means? 95-98% of what you say is wholly irrational based on either some mild form of mental illness or just old-fashioned racism. Hard to discern which it is or if it's a combination of both. <<< my standard reply to you from now on (I gave you ample chances this time)
LOL, you are still nothing but a sad little person.
I'm only refuting your guilt by association. If it applies to your enemies, then it applies to your side as well.
By your logic; you worship a Congressman who is a proven liar, therefore you are a proven liar.
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NOPE. You do not get to control this topic.
You said anyone who voted for or supported Trump is guilty by extension. Of course I'm not surprised at all that you're butt hurt because I use that same logic against you.
Since that is your claim, then it applies in all cases. Or are you just doing this to scream "racism" again?
AND AGAIN, you don't get to dictate what is and is not allowed in this thread.
If you want to apply my logic to me, that's fine.
That's not what I'm arguing against. I am arguing that the election of #45 has inspired white nationalists and white supremacists to come out of hiding and take pride in their racism, and I used Rep. Steve King (R-IA) and his recent white nationalist and white supremacist language as an example. Instead of refuting my claims, which you must agree with, you've made attempts to equalize things that Hillary Clinton has allegedly supported (without any substantial proof to back up those claims by the way). Why are you trying to minimize the effects of white nationalism and white supremacy instead of refuting that they actually exist and they have damaging effects on society? Is it because Steve King's words are so well-known? Is it because the Republican party in Congress has given him chairmanship of committees and subcommittees despite his support for white nationalism and white supremacy? There has to be a reason why you do not take white nationalism and white supremacy speech coming from an elected official seriously. Is it because you yourself support it?
I condemn the things you accuse Hillary Clinton of yet I have not heard you condemn the hate speech from white nationalists like Steve Bannon, Steve King and #45 himself. Where is your condemnation? Where are your sources that prove what I'm saying about King, Bannon and #45 are wrong?
Accusing Steve Bannon of being a "white nationalist" is just delusional and detached from reality at this point. The only people that think Steve Bannon is some kind of anti-semite or racist are the uninformed that are insulated from facts. Even the ADL walked back their accusations of Steve Bannon being anti-semitic or racists. Literally the ONLY "proof" they could come up with is that the comment section on some articles had some racist trolls in them, which by that logic would also mean Youtube is responsible for racist trolls commenting on youtube videos, and would also mean youtube endorses racism.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/stephen-bannon-five-things-to-know
Trump has condemned racism, white nationalism, etc more times than any of us can count. I certainly condemn racism, in ALL forms, but the left has yet to condemn their own racist anti-white, anti-semitic people. The left was getting ready to prop up well known anti-semitic racist Keith Ellison as their DNC chair, and NOBODY condemned his hateful speech which emboldened anti-semitic "liberal" racists. Or the fact that the left supports openly racist policies such as BDS movement which has emboldened anti-semites everywhere. The left in America will go the same way as Corbyn's party if they continue to refuse to condemn racism on their OWN side.“Look, are there some people that are white nationalists that are attracted to some of the philosophies of the alt-right? Maybe. Are there some people that are anti-Semitic that are attracted? Maybe. Right? Maybe some people are attracted to the alt-right that are homophobes, right? But that’s just like, there are certain elements of the progressive left and the hard left that attract certain elements.” - Steve Bannon
You gave the same exact argument as Steve Bannon himself, which is another attempt at deflection. "Our side does it, but so does the left," is not a substantial argument to refute the claim. Why can't Steve Bannon come out against the disgusting things that a congressman in a position of power in our country's legislature (Rep. King) has said recently? He has not effectively come out against white nationalism and white supremacy, meaning no one outside of that realm believes him whenever he attempts to refute the claims made against him. You refute claims by proving your case, and he has yet to prove his case. Why didn't he say there's absolutely nothing about the "alt-right" movement that promotes white nationalism and/or white supremacy? Do you see the problem?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/quotes-from-steve-bannon-trumps-new-white-house-chief-strategist/
{Since this is already off-topic}
As for this constant bringing up of left-wing issues, I can agree there are racists and even anti-Semites on the left. The film "Get Out" showed just how ugly the left can be. There are many troublemakers on the left and there are even disgusting, vile beings on the left; however, those people are often kept from gaining any kind of power in anything. You brought up Keith Ellison. Is Keith Ellison the current DNC chairman, or are we living in reality where he didn't win? What committees have Keith Ellison as a current chairman? Is he the minority whip or minority leader or anything in the House of Representatives? Being deputy chair of the DNC doesn't come with some great policymaking power and he's not the one on TV making the case for Democrats, the actual chairman Tom Perez is. Well-known pervert Anthony Weiner was forced to leave Congress BY DEMOCRATS. Republicans, the party of Christian values, rarely do the same thing. I posted a thread a little while ago about a recent Republican state legislator in Oklahoma who was not pushed out of his seat by any of his Republican colleagues or the Republican voters after participating in child prostitution. The left deals with their troublemakers by removing them or keeping them from getting into positions of power, the right doesn't. -
NOPE. You do not get to control this topic.
You said anyone who voted for or supported Trump is guilty by extension. Of course I'm not surprised at all that you're butt hurt because I use that same logic against you.
Since that is your claim, then it applies in all cases. Or are you just doing this to scream "racism" again?
AND AGAIN, you don't get to dictate what is and is not allowed in this thread.
If you want to apply my logic to me, that's fine.
That's not what I'm arguing against. I am arguing that the election of #45 has inspired white nationalists and white supremacists to come out of hiding and take pride in their racism, and I used Rep. Steve King (R-IA) and his recent white nationalist and white supremacist language as an example. Instead of refuting my claims, which you must agree with, you've made attempts to equalize things that Hillary Clinton has allegedly supported (without any substantial proof to back up those claims by the way). Why are you trying to minimize the effects of white nationalism and white supremacy instead of refuting that they actually exist and they have damaging effects on society? Is it because Steve King's words are so well-known? Is it because the Republican party in Congress has given him chairmanship of committees and subcommittees despite his support for white nationalism and white supremacy? There has to be a reason why you do not take white nationalism and white supremacy speech coming from an elected official seriously. Is it because you yourself support it?
I condemn the things you accuse Hillary Clinton of yet I have not heard you condemn the hate speech from white nationalists like Steve Bannon, Steve King and #45 himself. Where is your condemnation? Where are your sources that prove what I'm saying about King, Bannon and #45 are wrong?
Accusing Steve Bannon of being a "white nationalist" is just delusional and detached from reality at this point. The only people that think Steve Bannon is some kind of anti-semite or racist are the uninformed that are insulated from facts. Even the ADL walked back their accusations of Steve Bannon being anti-semitic or racists. Literally the ONLY "proof" they could come up with is that the comment section on some articles had some racist trolls in them, which by that logic would also mean Youtube is responsible for racist trolls commenting on youtube videos, and would also mean youtube endorses racism.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/stephen-bannon-five-things-to-know
Trump has condemned racism, white nationalism, etc more times than any of us can count. I certainly condemn racism, in ALL forms, but the left has yet to condemn their own racist anti-white, anti-semitic people. The left was getting ready to prop up well known anti-semitic racist Keith Ellison as their DNC chair, and NOBODY condemned his hateful speech which emboldened anti-semitic "liberal" racists. Or the fact that the left supports openly racist policies such as BDS movement which has emboldened anti-semites everywhere. The left in America will go the same way as Corbyn's party if they continue to refuse to condemn racism on their OWN side.The left deals with their troublemakers by removing them or keeping them from getting into positions of power, the right doesn't.
Riiiight… Which is why the organizers of the leftist "Women's march" against Donald Trump was organized by a woman that advocates for Female genital mutilation and is vehemently anti-semitic (Linda Sarsour) and by a woman that tortured, kidnapped and killed a gay man (Donna Hylton) and when asked why she sodomized the gay man with a stool before killing him she replied "he was a homo anyway". Or that Democrats were literally ready to prop up well known anti-semitic racist Keith Ellison as DNC chair despite his hateful rhetoric. The left have never denounced Keith Ellison's hateful and racist comments, or Al Sharpton's racist comments as well, Or denounced when Obama made fun of the mentally handicapped, Or when Hillary Clinton mocked disabled children and called them "fucking retards" Or the fact that the most racist institutionalized policy in America today (The BDS movement) originates from the left and is supported by Democrats such as Keith Ellison etc.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264848/could-radical-israel-basher-soon-head-democratic-joseph-klein
Not to mention that Omar Mateen (who was a registered democrat as well) and his father both supported Hillary Clinton, as well as countless other radicals. Seddique Mateen (father of Orlando shooter and radical taliban supporter) was invited to Hillary's rally. Hillary NEVER denounced Mateen's support, she even dodged questions about Mateen at a Miami event, it wasn't until media pressure was so great that her CAMPAIGN denounced Mateen. She herself never denounced him. Syed Farook's dating profile listed himself as "very liberal" as well. We could go and on in circles about hate on both sides. Don't get me wrong there are hateful people on the right as well, but the worst thing a radical Republican is going to do to me is read a Bible to me and tell me I'm going to hell. While the worst thing a radical liberal will do is bring in millions of people that want to kill gays. I left a muslim country to come to America to get away from that. No thanks. -
Admissions to sights such as stormfront and other supremacist sites increased tenfold with the rise of Trump. Their has been a rise of racial antagonism and the federal hate map has seen an increase in hate groups. More hate groups are parading in the streets and holding more announced gatherings they otherwise would have been more discreet about. They have indeed been more embolden by Trumps rhetoric and their desire to "get their country back".
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THis, their loss, race is fiction.
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Admissions to sights such as stormfront and other supremacist sites increased tenfold with the rise of Trump. Their has been a rise of racial antagonism and the federal hate map has seen an increase in hate groups. More hate groups are parading in the streets and holding more announced gatherings they otherwise would have been more discreet about. They have indeed been more embolden by Trumps rhetoric and their desire to "get their country back".
Do you not see the connection between BLM and other bullshit like "white people go around" forcing white students to walk through a creek to get to class and the rise in whites pushing back?
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This is like arguing with somebody who's been on twitter for more than 24/7 :-, I'm not even surprised.
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NOPE. You do not get to control this topic.
You said anyone who voted for or supported Trump is guilty by extension. Of course I'm not surprised at all that you're butt hurt because I use that same logic against you.
Since that is your claim, then it applies in all cases. Or are you just doing this to scream "racism" again?
AND AGAIN, you don't get to dictate what is and is not allowed in this thread.
If you want to apply my logic to me, that's fine.
That's not what I'm arguing against. I am arguing that the election of #45 has inspired white nationalists and white supremacists to come out of hiding and take pride in their racism, and I used Rep. Steve King (R-IA) and his recent white nationalist and white supremacist language as an example. Instead of refuting my claims, which you must agree with, you've made attempts to equalize things that Hillary Clinton has allegedly supported (without any substantial proof to back up those claims by the way). Why are you trying to minimize the effects of white nationalism and white supremacy instead of refuting that they actually exist and they have damaging effects on society? Is it because Steve King's words are so well-known? Is it because the Republican party in Congress has given him chairmanship of committees and subcommittees despite his support for white nationalism and white supremacy? There has to be a reason why you do not take white nationalism and white supremacy speech coming from an elected official seriously. Is it because you yourself support it?
I condemn the things you accuse Hillary Clinton of yet I have not heard you condemn the hate speech from white nationalists like Steve Bannon, Steve King and #45 himself. Where is your condemnation? Where are your sources that prove what I'm saying about King, Bannon and #45 are wrong?
Accusing Steve Bannon of being a "white nationalist" is just delusional and detached from reality at this point. The only people that think Steve Bannon is some kind of anti-semite or racist are the uninformed that are insulated from facts. Even the ADL walked back their accusations of Steve Bannon being anti-semitic or racists. Literally the ONLY "proof" they could come up with is that the comment section on some articles had some racist trolls in them, which by that logic would also mean Youtube is responsible for racist trolls commenting on youtube videos, and would also mean youtube endorses racism.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/stephen-bannon-five-things-to-know
Trump has condemned racism, white nationalism, etc more times than any of us can count. I certainly condemn racism, in ALL forms, but the left has yet to condemn their own racist anti-white, anti-semitic people. The left was getting ready to prop up well known anti-semitic racist Keith Ellison as their DNC chair, and NOBODY condemned his hateful speech which emboldened anti-semitic "liberal" racists. Or the fact that the left supports openly racist policies such as BDS movement which has emboldened anti-semites everywhere. The left in America will go the same way as Corbyn's party if they continue to refuse to condemn racism on their OWN side.The left deals with their troublemakers by removing them or keeping them from getting into positions of power, the right doesn't.
Riiiight… Which is why the organizers of the leftist "Women's march" against Donald Trump was organized by a woman that advocates for Female genital mutilation and is vehemently anti-semitic (Linda Sarsour) and by a woman that tortured, kidnapped and killed a gay man (Donna Hylton) and when asked why she sodomized the gay man with a stool before killing him she replied "he was a homo anyway". Or that Democrats were literally ready to prop up well known anti-semitic racist Keith Ellison as DNC chair despite his hateful rhetoric. The left have never denounced Keith Ellison's hateful and racist comments, or Al Sharpton's racist comments as well, Or denounced when Obama made fun of the mentally handicapped, Or when Hillary Clinton mocked disabled children and called them "fucking retards" Or the fact that the most racist institutionalized policy in America today (The BDS movement) originates from the left and is supported by Democrats such as Keith Ellison etc.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264848/could-radical-israel-basher-soon-head-democratic-joseph-klein
Not to mention that Omar Mateen (who was a registered democrat as well) and his father both supported Hillary Clinton, as well as countless other radicals. Seddique Mateen (father of Orlando shooter and radical taliban supporter) was invited to Hillary's rally. Hillary NEVER denounced Mateen's support, she even dodged questions about Mateen at a Miami event, it wasn't until media pressure was so great that her CAMPAIGN denounced Mateen. She herself never denounced him. Syed Farook's dating profile listed himself as "very liberal" as well. We could go and on in circles about hate on both sides. Don't get me wrong there are hateful people on the right as well, but the worst thing a radical Republican is going to do to me is read a Bible to me and tell me I'm going to hell. While the worst thing a radical liberal will do is bring in millions of people that want to kill gays. I left a muslim country to come to America to get away from that. No thanks.
