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    If You Found George W. Bush’s Speech Offensive, You’re The Problem, Not Him

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      sutieday last edited by

      https://www.redstate.com/arbogast/2017/10/21/found-george-w-bush-speech-offensive-you-are-the-problem/

      Have you read Infowars lately? Have you heard about Seth Rich? Do you know about Pizzagate? Where does all that crap find a place where it is accepted without question? Among members of the Trumpaloopa lodge. They believe that crap. You’re one of them — sadly — if what Bush said offends you. Deal with your issues. Don’t whine about GWB.
      Again, unless you’re (Richard) Spencer or one of those soft, pasty-white albino orangutans who marched in Charlottesville chanting Nazi slogans, why would this bother you? And if you are one of those people and it bothers you….good. Nobody likes you. Go away.

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      Wow, I agree with this right wing site!

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        aadam101 last edited by

        I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

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          sutieday last edited by

          @aadam101:

          I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

          Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the Trump agenda is apparently a liberal. This is an insane time to be alive.

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            Frederick last edited by

            @sutieday:

            @aadam101:

            I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

            Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the Trump agenda is apparently a liberal. This is an insane time to be alive.

            A large portion of republicans consider Trump to be too liberal.

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              sutieday last edited by

              @Frederick:

              @sutieday:

              @aadam101:

              I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

              Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the Trump agenda is apparently a liberal. This is an insane time to be alive.

              A large portion of republicans consider Trump to be too liberal.

              Source? Trump has over 50% approval with Republican voters. Again, another baseless claim from Frederick.

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              • Frederick
                Frederick last edited by

                @aadam101:

                I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

                Bush was quite a bit more conservative than Trump WHILE president, but Bush hates Trump for making a fool of his brother Jeb.   Also, it's quite easy to be a liberal when not in a position of authority - because people without any authority don't have to be accountable for anything.

                On the other hand.. Jimmy Carter did the opposite.  He has become MUCH more conservative since leaving office.  He now realizes that for all his hard work and good intentions while president, he let the rest of the world take advantage of the USA.

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                  sutieday last edited by

                  @Frederick:

                  @aadam101:

                  I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

                  Bush was quite a bit more conservative than Trump WHILE president, but Bush hates Trump for making a fool of his brother Jeb.   Also, it's quite easy to be a liberal when not in a position of authority - because people without any authority don't have to be accountable for anything.

                  On the other hand.. Jimmy Carter did the opposite.  He has become MUCH more conservative since leaving office.  He now realizes that for all his hard work and good intentions while president, he let the rest of the world take advantage of the USA.

                  I thought Bush was one of the worst US presidents, then Trump happened…

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                  • Frederick
                    Frederick last edited by

                    @sutieday:

                    @Frederick:

                    @sutieday:

                    @aadam101:

                    I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

                    Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the Trump agenda is apparently a liberal. This is an insane time to be alive.

                    A large portion of republicans consider Trump to be too liberal.

                    Source? Trump has over 50% approval with Republican voters. Again, another baseless claim from Frederick.

                    You haven't learned anything in your orchestrated absence.

                    For those of you with a memory, there was a massive drive by many republican politicians to prevent Trump from becoming president.   They argued that he was not conservative enough.  Some of the more notable Trump haters.. John McCain, Paul Ryan, Lindsay Graham, John Kasich, the Bush Family, Mitt Romney,  as well as many republican commentators such as George Will and Bill Kristol.

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                      sutieday last edited by

                      @Frederick:

                      @sutieday:

                      @Frederick:

                      @sutieday:

                      @aadam101:

                      I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

                      Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the Trump agenda is apparently a liberal. This is an insane time to be alive.

                      A large portion of republicans consider Trump to be too liberal.

                      Source? Trump has over 50% approval with Republican voters. Again, another baseless claim from Frederick.

                      You haven't learned anything in your orchestrated absence.

                      For those of you with a memory, there was a massive drive by many republican politicians to prevent Trump from becoming president.   They argued that he was not conservative enough.  Some of the more notable Trump haters.. John McCain, Paul Ryan, Lindsay Graham, John Kasich, the Bush Family, Mitt Romney,  as well as many republican commentators such as George Will and Bill Kristol.

                      You said "A large portion of republicans consider Trump to be too liberal." I countered with over 50% of Republican voters approve of Trump, which is true: http://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx (2017 Oct 9-15, 79% of Republicans approve of him)

                      How then does what your saying about the Never Trump crowd constitute a "large portion of Republicans"?

                      Frederick, you need facts before you say things. I know #45 thinks otherwise, but that is not how real life works.

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                        Albino orangutans ….

                        I feel like's kinda like a vanilla-orange swirl sorbet?

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                          aadam101 last edited by

                          @Frederick:

                          @aadam101:

                          I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

                          Bush was quite a bit more conservative than Trump WHILE president, but Bush hates Trump for making a fool of his brother Jeb.  Also, it's quite easy to be a liberal when not in a position of authority - because people without any authority don't have to be accountable for anything.

                          On the other hand.. Jimmy Carter did the opposite.  He has become MUCH more conservative since leaving office.  He now realizes that for all his hard work and good intentions while president, he let the rest of the world take advantage of the USA.

                          Bush doesn't give a damn about his brother.  Bush hates Trump because Trump is destroying America.

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                            Frederick last edited by

                            @aadam101:

                            @Frederick:

                            @aadam101:

                            I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

                            Bush was quite a bit more conservative than Trump WHILE president, but Bush hates Trump for making a fool of his brother Jeb.   Also, it's quite easy to be a liberal when not in a position of authority - because people without any authority don't have to be accountable for anything.

                            On the other hand.. Jimmy Carter did the opposite.  He has become MUCH more conservative since leaving office.  He now realizes that for all his hard work and good intentions while president, he let the rest of the world take advantage of the USA.

                            Bush doesn't give a damn about his brother.  Bush hates Trump because Trump is destroying America.

                            I'll bite… in what way is Trump destroying America?

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                              cteavin last edited by

                              @sutieday:

                              I thought Bush was one of the worst US presidents, then Trump happened…

                              This I'd like to see justified.

                              Under Bush the Twin Towers fell, the Economy collapsed (Lehman Brothers), we became embroiled in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we wasted trillions of dollars not counting such winning programs like No Child Left Behind. Should I go on?

                              So tell me some facts to justify Trump is worse than Bush? I get that people don't like Trump but he is in no way worse than 43, not by a long, long country mile.

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                              • Frederick
                                Frederick last edited by

                                @cteavin:

                                @sutieday:

                                I thought Bush was one of the worst US presidents, then Trump happened…

                                This I'd like to see justified.

                                Under Bush the Twin Towers fell, the Economy collapsed (Lehman Brothers), we became embroiled in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we wasted trillions of dollars not counting such winning programs like No Child Left Behind. Should I go on?

                                So tell me some facts to justify Trump is worse than Bush? I get that people don't like Trump but he is in no way worse than 43, not by a long, long country mile.

                                You won't get a response from Sutieday about that.  Nor will he respond to my question about what it is that Trump has done that is bad.

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                                  raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                                  I never liked GWB, but Obama was far, far worse when it came to things like warrantless wiretaps and whatnot.    Obama proved he was nothing but a liar the minute he took office.

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                                    aadam101 last edited by

                                    @Frederick:

                                    @aadam101:

                                    @Frederick:

                                    @aadam101:

                                    I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

                                    Bush was quite a bit more conservative than Trump WHILE president, but Bush hates Trump for making a fool of his brother Jeb.  Also, it's quite easy to be a liberal when not in a position of authority - because people without any authority don't have to be accountable for anything.

                                    On the other hand.. Jimmy Carter did the opposite.  He has become MUCH more conservative since leaving office.  He now realizes that for all his hard work and good intentions while president, he let the rest of the world take advantage of the USA.

                                    Bush doesn't give a damn about his brother.  Bush hates Trump because Trump is destroying America.

                                    I'll bite… in what way is Trump destroying America?

                                    For starters he is going to start a war with North Korea.

                                    TrumpCare premiums are rising 24% in my state next year. TrumpCare is a total disaster!

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                                    • raphjd
                                      raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                                      So, Trump should be like every other US President and world leader and pander to North Korea when it threatens the world with nukes.

                                      Basically, Trump has to cuck to NK so he won't be deemed a bad President.

                                      Maybe he should massively explode the warrantless wiretaps so he gets as much love as Obama.  You know, how Obama promised to end the program, but did the complete opposite.    Yeah, yeah, but Obama is half black so he's allowed to get away with crap like that.

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                                        cteavin last edited by

                                        @aadam101:

                                        For starters he is going to start a war with North Korea.

                                        TrumpCare premiums are rising 24% in my state next year. TrumpCare is a total disaster!

                                        Going to is not the same as having actually started two wars, like President Cheney Bush.

                                        You can't blame Healthcare on Trump, either. Obama passed a piss poor plan expecting Clinton to enter the office and fix it, her plan she outlined during the debates. That didn't happen so they're going ahead with repeal by a different route.

                                        Bush 43 is still the top contender for worst President ever. Trump, one of the more polarizing.

                                        @rapjjd, what kind of wiretaps are you talking about with Obama? He had authority via The Patriot Act, which the American people allowed to pass unless you're talking about something else.

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                                        • Frederick
                                          Frederick last edited by

                                          @aadam101:

                                          @Frederick:

                                          @aadam101:

                                          @Frederick:

                                          @aadam101:

                                          I saw people on FB earlier calling Bush a liberal! If this isn't proof that Trump supporters are the dumbest people on earth than I don't know what is.

                                          Bush was quite a bit more conservative than Trump WHILE president, but Bush hates Trump for making a fool of his brother Jeb.   Also, it's quite easy to be a liberal when not in a position of authority - because people without any authority don't have to be accountable for anything.

                                          On the other hand.. Jimmy Carter did the opposite.  He has become MUCH more conservative since leaving office.  He now realizes that for all his hard work and good intentions while president, he let the rest of the world take advantage of the USA.

                                          Bush doesn't give a damn about his brother.  Bush hates Trump because Trump is destroying America.

                                          I'll bite… in what way is Trump destroying America?

                                          For starters he is going to start a war with North Korea.

                                          TrumpCare premiums are rising 24% in my state next year. TrumpCare is a total disaster!

                                          mmm.. when did "Trumpcare" begin?

                                          as for North Korea, what option is there to prevent North Korea from nuking the USA, Guam, South Korea, and Japan other than attacking North Korea?  65 years of negotiations have failed.  Guess who built the nuclear power plants in North Korea?  The USA!  The premise was to supply them with nuclear power in exchange for them not developing nuclear plants on their own which could be used to produce nuclear weapons.  That didn't work out very well.

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                                          • raphjd
                                            raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                                            @rapjjd, what kind of wiretaps are you talking about with Obama? He had authority via The Patriot Act, which the American people allowed to pass unless you're talking about something else.

                                            YES, those.  As well as the other bits included in the Patriot Act and done by executive order.

                                            Obama campaigned to end all that shit, if elected President.  Obama expanded those program far beyond anything GWB had.

                                            Obama campaigned against No Bid contracts, except in dire emergency.  I totally agreed with him.    Turns out that was a fucking lie.  He used them for things like routine and scheduled mothballing of ships.    GWB used them for oil fires in Iraq, despite Schlumberger being the best company to do oil fires, giving the contracts to Halliburton.

                                            The people from what I remember were against most parts of the Patriot Act, as were Obama and Clinton.

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