WTF snuff films now?
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How the hell is this allowed here www.gaytorrent.ru/details.php?id=f6d398fab8135e9ae05301ca76bdf3fc7765fc4b2d03d660 with all the shit going on against the community we're glamourizing killing as sex now?
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If it's simulated it's okay… but if it's real that's another story.....
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I'm a little concerned seeing references to Gacy in the files list. Gacy was a child molestor that was sentenced to death in the United States…. We have a strict under age policy here, which is a part of what concerns me.
I think the studio that they're trying to refer to is BestDeaths.com, which is completely simulated and not real. That being said however, I'm kind of troubled by the references to Gacy in the files list.
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Simulated or not, why are we allowing this to turn into eroticism? Don't we have enough problems already with people being killed for real, now we are allowing it to be eroticized? Don't you see how banalization of violence is our worst enemy?
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I do agree that snuff should not be classified as porn…. I will have no other option but to bring this torrent to my superiors to see what we're going to do with this.
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No-one to my knowledge has ever documented a real snuff movie.
What this is about we mortals probably won't know as access to that torrent is denied.
BestDeaths is a legitimate website so they are in the right. Posting their material here is probably not legitimate …for the poster.
I don't find BDSM erotic but it is usually simulated and portrays violence. Do you want that banned too?
There are enough people in the world wanting to ban things, let's not make it a policy here.
PS The reference to Gacy is to a movie listed on IMDB. He was not just a child molester, he was a murderer and most of his victims were over the age of consent.
Let's ban Mary Poppins too - at least there were real children in that, the Gacy movie isn't about children. And he wasn't just sentenced to death, he was executed. Deatails of that and his last meal can be found here
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The torrent is currently showing as access denied because of how I changed it in the system. I want to make sure that all the staff are on the same page with torrents from this studio. The way the rules are written, this could be taken either way… More specifically, where the forbidden content rules state:
The following TYPES OF PORN are not allowed, if real or claimed/appears to be real:
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Child Exploitation or Underage Porn
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Shota (aka: shouta, shotacon, shotakon)
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Rape
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Snuff (Murder)
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Necrophilia (Sex with dead people)
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Cannibalism
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Bestiality (sex with or using animals)
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Mutilation & Blood Consumption
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Non-Sexual Bondage & Torture
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Intravenous Drug Use/Slamming/Shooting
I totally understand where you're coming from there cannonmc, my only hang up with this torrent is that some of the videos can be classified as fitting into one of the categories that I have bolded in red. This is why I have currently disabled access to it, without completely removing it. There is a chance that the staff as a whole may not agree that it fits the criteria to be classified as such. It's a matter of where the line is drawn with this type of content. While BestDeaths.com does have a very clear s.2257 compliance policy, including naming a custodian of records, the part that concerns me is that there seems to be a lack of a sexual element to these videos. I'm waiting on a staff decision collectively among everyone before deciding how exactly to handle this particular torrent.
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Best Deaths creative works were discussed upon and found not to be real or looking real.
They are that bad acted, that they are more what I'd call a bad taste parody of snuff. Much less violent than a good horror, crime, thriller of fantasy movie …
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…there seems to be a lack of a sexual element to these videos...
To me there is a lack of sexual element in tickling or feet videos but some people like them.
I've never seen a BestDeaths video but from the stills I don't think anyone would take them for real.
For realism have you seen the deaths in a movie like Hellbent…
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Best Deaths creative works were discussed upon and found not to be real or looking real.
They are that bad acted, that they are more what I'd call a bad taste parody of snuff. Much less violent than a good horror, crime, thriller of fantasy movie …
Thank you Popper… I didn't want to remove it completely just on the off-chance that I was mistaken in how it is classified.
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A couple of bestdeaths videos I downloaded DID have sex in them, I am 100% sure there was oral, and I think fucking in at least one.. But there are hard dicks and sexual contact in most of the ones I've downloaded.
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I agree that this is in the same category as s&m since it's fake… There is similar necro depiction in tv show and horror movies where hot guys get killed. So clearly, there is a bigger public than what we think. Allowing fake stuff avoid real stuff happening in my opinion. Banning them is like banning a violent videogames because SOME people went too far and actually kill people.
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This was the more bullshit answer I EVER HAD in this forum yes, not sexual right… masturbating while strangling someone? I can see the point in saying that it's fiction, but you are already having idiots going around doing this in russia and other places, so let's feed the stereotype that it's ok and gays are subhuman and can be killed like that... it's just a big joke.
YEAH I can see how many say that we are our worst enemies, get a grip people it's a bit odd and creepy to masturbate to that, there is no beating around that bush, it's creepy to have so litle respect for life and others.
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I don't know but there is something unbalanced about the glorification of death designed to beat off to. Yer yer I know its not real but does that make it any less glorifying. Why would any site want to host fake rape or fake death for the purpose of sexual titilation.
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What does it matter if it's real or simulated? for me the worying fact is that the thought of killing someone is a turn on. How long before their fantasies are acted out.There are a lot of unhinged people in our society, just visit any gay chat room. I'm sure Dennis Nilson would love that site. I have never seen any of the vids in question but if there is little or no sex involved the only stimulation can be from the act of murder itself. Come on guys get a grip.
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who the BEEP are you to judge what turns on someone?!! are you aware that homophobic people use the same arguments to say homosexuality is immoral and should be "banned" ?..!!
So why not ban all scat videos?! it's not sex, it's just guys shitting on themselves, why masturbating watching that? let's push it further, fisting, same thing, but hey why not ban all straight porn as well after all it's a gay tracker right?… same goes to fight videos (no sex at all just random guys pretending to fight), feet worshiping.. you don't like BDSM, that's your right, don't impose your moral views on others, nobody force you to watch it.
Sure people watching that are going to kill anyone in the street . Sure breath control, or strangulation are very new and are solely used among gays. Even prepubescent kids plays at the dangerous "foulard game" which consist of strangulating your friend in order to get " high ". That's the same sick arguments about horror movies, so called ' satanic ' metal , video games.. What's revolting me it that is comes from " gays" !! gays wanting to forbid some sexual behavior !! this site is for adults only, therefore humans with a minimum judgment. Thinking you know better in order to protect people, that's called totalitarianism and fascism. that's just insane.
"Why would any site want to host fake rape " .. right... seriously, your sexual life must be soooo boring... ! -
Wow Praha2 this is a u turn for you(will explain at the end)
My sex life is far from boring and judging by your comments nothing should be banned,so what are your views on child porn or beastiallity?
You seem to have completely missed my point that videos can influence people 2 cases are:-
1 A guy sat telling us about a video he had watched the night before don't know if it was child porn he just said a young lad. The lad was being raped screaming and crying,but I have never forgotton the look in the guys eyes or the fact he was groping his cock when he said screaming and CRYING, it was the crying bit that turned him on most. This guy is now in jail for raping a school boy.
I am not taking a moral stance on this I was 14 when I first started having sex with older men, but it was what I wanted I wasn't forced.2 When I was a teenager there was a young guy going around cutting cocks. He would go into a cottage(toilet) and when a cock came through the hole he would cut it with a craft knife [ I was one of his victims ] in one case he stuck a knitting kneedle through the cock so they couldn't get it out of the hole. He picked up a drunk student and went back to his house when the student had passed out he almost cut the poor lads cock off,luckilly the lad woke up and managed to fight him off. In court the guy said he had been influenced by some horror movie.[this was in the 70s and because it was only gays he was attacking he got 18 months]
I am not into BDSM or scat but they are not harming anyone but themselves, so its not for me to say they shouldn't do it.
What worried me about the bestdeaths videos was the fact that anyone could find the thought of killing a turn on simulated or not.your u turn: was from your answer to my video request:-
my request
Hi guys can anyone help to find this video I saw in a club in Prague about 10yrs ago.
In one scene there were 3 or 4 young guys laid on a bench with legs in the air and at the same time they all squirted water from their arses. In another scene a guy had a large bunch of bananas he peeled and stuck up his arse and then pushed them back out. I know its a big ask but someone may remember thisyour reply
been cruising in many clubs in praha, yet , thank god, never saw such a thing :afr2:BUT you think its ok to wank over killing somebody?!!!
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Simulated or not, why are we allowing this to turn into eroticism? Don't we have enough problems already with people being killed for real, now we are allowing it to be eroticized? Don't you see how banalization of violence is our worst enemy?
Uhh. If you don't like it, don't download it. How hard is that? Why do you want to prevent someone else from doing it? Are you their parent?
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my dear bendonn you just dont get it do you…
you act like those who are against homosexuality and you just dont even realize it.
I was sure of it : immediately it comes to pedophilia.. like Poutine, saying all gays are pedophile and goes to the monstrosity of saying in public very seriously to gays " please don't approach our kids"... what's pedophilia have to do with "role playing" made by consenting adults that are sexually aroused by that..
As you said you never watched any of the video we are talking about, therefore why the hell are you talking about criminal snuff videos??!! not the subject at all..
Then again you point 2 or 3 crazy guys who supposedly act upon seeing things on videos.. same arguments used by crazy radicals to forbid video games because some nut job killed kids in school. Yes they are crazy guys in our societies, we can't restrict the liberties of the majority because of 0.1% of crazy who would have been killers, rapist or terrorist anyway.
"What worried me about the bestdeaths videos was the fact that anyone could find the thought of killing a turn on simulated or not.
" then we must ban all horror movies : we all watch that because it's so fun and we enjoy watching poor bitch dying in atrocious ways.
Are you a kid to not understand the difference between acting and reality?
concerning your last point.. I dont see what "U turn" you are talking about... Did I asked for the ban of guys putting what the hell they want in their ass? No.. I just said I'm glad I didnt saw that, my personal opinion and taste, and I would certainly not deny to others the joy they have to see that kind of stuff if they like it.
If here someone would complain about scat videos and asking to ban them all, I would react the same even though I never watched any nor will ever watch one. I'm sorry in my country Liberty is the base of it all. Kids at 5 play cowboys and pretend to kill each other. should we forbid that too?... -
With all the fetishes…. i mean your not wrong but your not right either i mean we have video games, movies, books.... music that glorifies death. But yeah this is humanity, some of these fetishes gross me out too, is their a censor system?
