@jaroonn said in Trump Supporter vs Liberal - debate:

@raphjd So in other words: white people=good, conservatives=good. LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVES=BAD!!!!!!

It's always a joy having intelligent discussions with you. I'm sure you are hit at dinner parties.

Maybe you should watch the video from the recent Chicago city council meetings, especially the public speaking section.

Plenty of racism being thrown around there, but none of it came from the evil honkeys.

BTW, I don't know a single conservative who won't invite a non-violent liberal, but I know plenty of liberals who absolutely refuse to invite even mildly conservative people to parties, family gatherings, etc. There's a member of staff here who recently said he wouldn't invite conservatives to anything on our private Discord.

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Remember, according to the left, the only good honkey are ones that panders to non-whites' hatred of crackers.

I do find it funny that a bunch of "victims" are allowing themselves to be led around by their noses by their oppressor. The sheer fucking irony.

@blablarg18

The left loves violence to get their way.

@raphjd Timing of this... wonder if it relates to piece that OMG (aka James OKeefe) just did, on Aidan Grey (aka Jason Beck) ?

OKeefe went on gay dates with this Pentagon middle manager... got him to blab his lib-extremist views........ plus fact that he'd had "bottom surgery....[now] the plumbing is different".

Guy was proverbial "dummy with a security clearance."

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3rd suspect charged in Superbowl mass shooting of kids.

https://thepostmillennial.com/just-in-third-suspect-charged-with-murder-in-kansas-city-super-bowl-parade-mass-shooting

@raphjd In mid 2021 I told a lib "Just wait till boosters come out - they'll make you vaxx forever, endless updates."

Person said "That's nuts! It's a lifetime vaxx. Only wingnuts could think otherwise."

2 months later person said "Of course it will need frequent updates! That's good. Only wingnuts could think otherwise."

As to Russia's result - a native pundit who I've slowly come to respect as accurate, said what's below.
[my additions in brackets]

Putin winning 87% of the vote triggers a few funny but incorrect conclusions.

"The numbers are made up" - there was no significant voter fraud detected neither by liberal opposition nor by international observers.

[ed. however,] None of the people he was "competing" against were even known to a wider public. Yes, it was done on purpose and that would be a legitimate argument.
[ed. that is: election was rigged by having only minor, unrealistic alternatives on ballot - exactly what Criminal Biden has done in Dem primaries, & would like to do for November also - if only he can jail Trump in time]

"The numbers are real and it proves that Russians are Z-ombified Putlerists". This is also wrong. The general attitude to Putin is not one of worship of the glorious leader. Far from it.

Most politically-involved people who vote Putin criticize him on daily basis. So much so that i expected them not to vote for him at all.

Yet they still do. Why? As Putin put it himself, "i'm working like a slave on a galley". Presidential post is considered to be a horrible job that only a uniquely capable individual can handle.

Ultimately, it's not about the political program or any major achievements, but "stability". Russians want politics to not interfere in their day to day life. They want all the news about the Ukrainian war and the Western economic/military onslaught to remain just that - news that you can easily turn off.

This is exactly the strategy that Putin and co are pursuing. They don't want Russians to care about politics too much or at all, and they do everything in their power to stop reality from penetrating this protective shell. Personally, i don't like it and regard it as a kind of an unhealthy hibernation but it's clearly working in their favor so far.
[ed. here, it's different from Criminal Biden whose strategy is to lie nonstop & demonize half of USA, to fake-justify jailing that half's leaders & influencers]