Posts made by erikiwi

but do you even understand how democracy works? why would the people in low populated states have a relative voting power of four times the voting power of the people in california? that's just not how a democracy should work in my opinion. then again, i know alt right people have trouble understanding why EQUALITY is actually beneficial for all.

this video isnt directly related to equality but its in the same neighborhood:

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@raphjd:

You must be totally clueless that you can't understand how a couple of major cities and California (southern 1/3rd) would rule the US in a popular vote for the President.

Do you really think people living in cities care about farmers and those living in small town America?    I have lived in a small town and major cities.  City people are greedy and only think about themselves.

We already see people in non-city areas being forgotten, under the current system.   It would be far worse if the President was only chosen by the major cities.

The US is 228 bigger than Denmark and is far more mixed than.    350+ million people vs 5.6 million people.

dont blame me for your own inability to meet my arguments.

@raphjd:

Since you refuse to have an honest discussion, in these various threads, I'm done with you.

in case you feel better soon and feel you can actually handle this debate, this is what we have been talking about:

when you say "incident" do you mean the armed occupation? funny way to refer to an extreme measure of alt right madness. date raping and beating trans people comes from joe biggs, dont think he was involved with the armed occupation other than probably spreading lies and fake news about it at his job at infowars.

the proud gays might have a weak cover story of why human trash such as themselves have organized into a pro-violence organisation. however, together with the mass shootings and that guy who drove his car into a crowd and killed a woman are just a few specific examples of how much the at right loves violence.

uhm do you have a source for chris cuomo, don lemon, rachel maddow defending the violence by antifa? sorry but this seems like another alt right lie.

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Why do you insist on calling the Proud Boys the "proud gays"?!

I never heard that the Malheur Wildlife Refuge incident was all about being pro date rape and beating trans people.

The proud boys came about as a response due to the violence from antifa.   Check your timeline.

Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow and countless others from the left defended the violence by antifa.  So that's a lie.

So you have 2 people who were convicted of violence, from the right.  I wonder how that compared to your side.

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Why do you insist on calling the Proud Boys the "proud gays"?!

I never heard that the Malheur Wildlife Refuge incident was all about being pro date rape and beating trans people.

The proud boys came about as a response due to the violence from antifa.   Check your timeline.

Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow and countless others from the left defended the violence by antifa.  So that's a lie.

So you have 2 people who were convicted of violence, from the right.  I wonder how that compared to your side.

Posted on: Yesterday at 08:38:50 pm
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anyway, the point i was trying to make with "you people tried to have a little armed revolution with the occupation of the malheur national wildlife refuge and that guy joe biggs wants people to date rape and punch trans people. we also have gavin mcinnes from the proud gays that thinks theres not enough violennce these days. don't really hear that kind of rhetoric from the left. and also from the proud gays we have maxwell hare and john kinsman who both have been convicted for assault and attempted riot, there would probably be at least 8 more convicted proud gays if the victims had cooperated with the prosecution." is that it seems that the alt right and neo nazis are for more attracted to violence than the left. not sure what the lying alt right media has spun for this but im sure its colorful lies, if they even acknowledge these facts at all…......

Quote from: : raphjd on September 15, 2019, 03:56:43 pm

LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.

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but like racism is the definition of making baseless assumptions of other people...

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Ok, you are just wasting my time now.

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Ok, you are just wasting my time now.

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ok since we are making baseless assumtions about eachother: you people are as susceptible to fake news and lies as you are willing to make baseless assumtions of other people. and i mean that as super susceptible and very willing.

and even if rachel maddows has been dishonest, thats just one media personality. doesnt really compare to all the alt right media that lies frequently and often.

Quote from: : raphjd on September 15, 2019, 05:54:39 pm

Sure, that was your intent.  I call BS.   "Peer friendly context" whatever.

Mueller's report showed she lied for 2 years and she's still carrying on with the same lies.

Chris Cuomo famously said that it was illegal for us to read the leaked documents and that we could only know what they said from legit news journos like him.   That was and is a total fucking lie.

Any news you don't like is "alt-right".   That's how you people are.

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Sure, that was your intent.  I call BS.   "Peer friendly context" whatever.

Mueller's report showed she lied for 2 years and she's still carrying on with the same lies.

Chris Cuomo famously said that it was illegal for us to read the leaked documents and that we could only know what they said from legit news journos like him.   That was and is a total fucking lie.

Any news you don't like is "alt-right".   That's how you people are.

Posted on: September 15, 2019, 04:11:03 pm
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oh noooooo whats way more funny is that you think "proud gays" is a slur. i was only wanting to put the boys in a peer-friendly context.

and absolutely, alt-right media lies often and frequently. as for rachel maddows, her thing is taking controversial facts (legal documents, emails, transcripts etc) and hypothesize what the mean or why they exist. its not really lying as far as i know, but yes its definitely a form of propaganda. and lets not be naive here, all ideologically based media (alt-right media not excluded) perform propaganda.

Quote from: : raphjd on September 15, 2019, 03:56:43 pm

LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.

Posted on: September 15, 2019, 03:56:43 pm
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LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.

Posted on: September 15, 2019, 12:44:00 pm
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yeah no all that together still doesnt compare to the alt-right motivated mass shootings.

also, you people even tried to have a little armed revolution with the occupation of the malheur national wildlife refuge and that guy joe biggs wants people to date rape and punch trans people. we also have gavin mcinnes from the proud gays that thinks theres not enough violennce these days. don't really hear that kind of rhetoric from the left. and also from the proud gays we have maxwell hare and john kinsman who both have been convicted for assault and attempted riot, there would probably be at least 8 more convicted proud gays if the victims had cooperated with the prosecution.

theres nothings dishonest with saying that racists are bad at understanding other people, it's basically a universal fact and the fundamental basis for racism.
@raphjd:

And there it is.  I'm done with you.

Like all liberals, you can't have an honest discussion.

your unfounded conspiracy theories aside, this just doesnt make any sense. why would you think anyone would do that? i would have to assume the alt right realise that would be ridiculous.
@raphjd:

I'm curious, do you actively promote your country surrendering its sovereignty to the EU?  It would save you guys a lot of money if you got rid of your national government and let your beloved EU have direct rule.

lol, i dont call you alt right as a slur meant to provoce you, is use it because its a it is a good description for how your opinions lean.

if you dont like my reference to wikipedia for the electoral college its easy to fact check the sources in the article. again, im not surprised someone from the alt right would try fact checking.

and what was this weird theory that large cities will have total say in every election? do you support less democratic elections?

@raphjd:

You really need to read up on Wikipedia and its biases.

Feminist "editathons" is a good one, where they go through pages and make them have a feminist slant.

I think it was the Danish royal family that edited out their scandals.

Wikipedia has too many problems to be trusted.

SNOPES is supposed to be a fact checker, but they now are heavily biased toward the left.   They have been caught in proven lies.

Instead of doing a bit of fact checking on your own, you just call me "alt-right" as if that offends me anymore.   You people just screech whatever names you can think of at your enemies.

that doesnt say anything of your ability to understand other people. racist arent really known for their ability to understand other people.

@raphjd:

I'm a dual national; US/UK.  I live in Scotland and have done so for the last 14 years.

The rabidly anti-English are the same ones that are pro-EU.

when you say "incident" do you mean the armed occupation? funny way to refer to an extreme measure of alt right madness. date raping and beating trans people comes from joe biggs, dont think he was involved with the armed occupation other than probably spreading lies and fake news about it at his job at infowars.

the proud gays might have a weak cover story of why human trash such as themselves have organized into a pro-violence organisation. however, together with the mass shootings and that guy who drove his car into a crowd and killed a woman are just a few specific examples of how much the at right loves violence.

uhm do you have a source for chris cuomo, don lemon, rachel maddow defending the violence by antifa? sorry but this seems like another alt right lie.

@raphjd:

Why do you insist on calling the Proud Boys the "proud gays"?!

I never heard that the Malheur Wildlife Refuge incident was all about being pro date rape and beating trans people.

The proud boys came about as a response due to the violence from antifa.   Check your timeline.

Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow and countless others from the left defended the violence by antifa.  So that's a lie.

So you have 2 people who were convicted of violence, from the right.  I wonder how that compared to your side.

i still want to know why you think popular vote would give large cities "total say in every election". i cant really understand your statement except if it would be to reduce democracy in usa. which would be bad regardless if it would be a leftist or rightist skewing.

@raphjd:

YEP, you're a blind liberal who gets his "news" from MSM liars.

The Electoral College was created to prevent cities from having total say in every election.    Of course, every white person not living in a US city owned at least 10,000 slaves.  Illinois is a well known slavery state, didnt'cha know.

anyway, the point i was trying to make with "you people tried to have a little armed revolution with the occupation of the malheur national wildlife refuge and that guy joe biggs wants people to date rape and punch trans people. we also have gavin mcinnes from the proud gays that thinks theres not enough violennce these days. don't really hear that kind of rhetoric from the left. and also from the proud gays we have maxwell hare and john kinsman who both have been convicted for assault and attempted riot, there would probably be at least 8 more convicted proud gays if the victims had cooperated with the prosecution." is that it seems that the alt right and neo nazis are for more attracted to violence than the left. not sure what the lying alt right media has spun for this but im sure its colorful lies, if they even acknowledge these facts at all…......

@raphjd:

LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.

no idea what snopes is but i do read bellingcat.

wikipedia is a great source of peer-reviewed information. if any fact lacks a citation it is shown and controversial pages are being fact checked continuously. but oh yeah, "fact checking" isnt really that popular with alt right media, i can see why someone from the alt right could be confused about fact checking.

@raphjd:

Wikipedia isn't trustworthy.  Only an idiot believes that it is.   Maybe you should look into the history and problems of Wikipedia before you blindly believe what it tells you.

I bet you also believe SNOPES, despite being proven to have lied.

not really, i was theorizing that the scottish people might not think the same way you say they think like. being smart about it is just an example of a plausible reason.

@raphjd:

"If you don't agree with me, you're stupid".    Yep, that sounds exactly like a liberal.

but like racism is the definition of making baseless assumptions of other people…

@raphjd:

Ok, you are just wasting my time now.

how do you mean its the least democratic body in europe?

and also, how can you support the electoral college but not eu? the only difference is that the eu parliment is chosen by the peoples popular vote, whereas the electoral college is distorted by states with "winner takes all" and less populated states having four times larger voting power than states with a large population.

@raphjd:

Are you on drugs?!

The EU is the least democratic body in Europe.

You must be posting for the looney bin.   Its liberals that hate free speech.   That's part of why they set that building at Berkley on fire.   Seriously, you have no clue.

so are the lives of the people in major cities and california worth less than other peoples lives? dont see why some peoples political opinion should be worth more than others…

@raphjd:

Being from a tiny country, I can see why you don't understand the issues that only supporting major cities and California would cause the US.

why would it not be ok?

lol do you people consider wikipedia "msm"? i mean im not really surprised, but still….

how exactly would cities have total say in every election? do you not know what the popular vote is or how democracy is supposed to work?

@raphjd:

YEP, you're a blind liberal who gets his "news" from MSM liars.

The Electoral College was created to prevent cities from having total say in every election.    Of course, every white person not living in a US city owned at least 10,000 slaves.  Illinois is a well known slavery state, didnt'cha know.

maybe they dont see it as being ruled by eu but as having support and benefits from the eu membership? kinda like most sensible and smart people would think about it i guess?

@raphjd:

All EU worshippers think that way.

If Scotland wants to be independent, then its idiotic to want to be ruled by the EU.  If they must be ruled by the EU, why try to force rUK to stay as well?   It's a totally hypocritical stance.

im not sure what you mean by uk being lied to, but yeah, the eu is considered a democratic institution so the uk wouldnt be free to do whatever they please as a eu member. kinda like how citizens are supposed to follow the law if they want to be part of society?

and i think the only recent threat to democracy in the west is the growing popularity of alt-right and neo nazi movements. neither of those are very big fans of things like free speech and equality, both free speech and equality being fundamental in a democracy…

@raphjd:

Whatever you want to believe.

I mean, the UK was lied to by remainer about a lot of things, such as the EU military.

The vast majority of the EU has ZERO democracy, but I know you socio-communists love that.

how is big cities treated favorably with popular voting? as i see it popular voting is about recognizing the will of the majority, kinda like how democracy is supposed to work?

@raphjd:

It's in the Constitution, so it's not likely to change.

Getting rid of it only benefits the major cities and California.

I do love how a person from a country with very little diversity thinks the same system his country uses will work everywhere.

ok since we are making baseless assumtions about eachother: you people are as susceptible to fake news and lies as you are willing to make baseless assumtions of other people. and i mean that as super susceptible and very willing.

and even if rachel maddows has been dishonest, thats just one media personality. doesnt really compare to all the alt right media that lies frequently and often.

@raphjd:

Sure, that was your intent.  I call BS.   "Peer friendly context" whatever.

Mueller's report showed she lied for 2 years and she's still carrying on with the same lies.

Chris Cuomo famously said that it was illegal for us to read the leaked documents and that we could only know what they said from legit news journos like him.   That was and is a total fucking lie.

Any news you don't like is "alt-right".   That's how you people are.