@fancydude:
#16 I typed a whole ramble on comparing Christianity with other religions and I think it would be misinterpreted. And I don't even know if I'm right 100% or have all the facts. As with everything, the exremists are the only ones who make the news - do they really represent the whole or majority of a given group? I don't know. Another example people don't vote for the most part in Islamic countries, Saudi Arabia is a monarchy right? I would find that a difficult place to live. But I certainly acquiesce that I was raised Christian and people obviously tend to find reasons to continue to live the way they were raised. Then again, if you watched that movie "not without my daughter" with Sally Field, it was interesting to see how the husband behaved in America and how he changed when he returned to Iran/Iraq, I forget. And certainly the children born in USA of immigrants originating from those countries seem to be Americanized or Britainized for the most part. It is a mystery still though when you read about a suicide bomber that was born in Britain, went to school there and was highly educated - his name escapes me now. Comparing him to a Timothy McVeigh who was not educated and maybe just crazy doesn't seem helpful or enlightening does it? Christian countries overall though seem to be much more tolerant of other religions in their midst - possibly to their detriment - we'll see as time goes on but the reverse doesn't seem true does it? To go back to the very beginning of your #16 though, you said " no we can't" and "the Bible says' doesn't wash" yeah probably, but I will also point out if your head is cut off, you can't say anything! So, if you want to dscuss this further, you can PM me and I'll give you my home email.
I really have to quote that… I'm sorry but if you refer to history it is false. "The Crusades" for exemple... Search who really was St Patrick and who were the snake he forced into the sea. (The who really is on purpose, here...)
There will always be what we call the majority (which force us to based our judgment on something) and the special cases (doesn't matter their numbers as long as they aren't the majority). Well if you look at the Christians' majority... well we obviously wouldn't be talking on this site if they had something to say about it.
Lately the actual Pope try to ease the war between Christians and Gays but let's face it : it didn't change a thing for 90% of the planet. Cause when you spend your entire life being told, by your Church and your family, that you should hate what is different that you teach it to your kids you just don't have the balls to say otherwise...
Trying to be the nice and good Christians between 2013 and 2015 will never be enough to redeem all the wrong they've done... (that's my idea, everyone can think differently)
And let's head back to homosexuality (I think it's the most interesting part :hapgay: ) they're a lot of religions (pre-christianism) that actually promoted same-gender sexe! Like a lot! We all know about the Romans that loved between men sexe (The Theban Legion is a good exemple for those who know about it) but there were also the japonese deities that enjoyed it themselves and, according to the folklore, teached it to the humans :cheers:
When you look at the before J.C and the after J.C we lost a lot... Too much, maybe if I dare say.