'…because only peers who got all files can be count as seeder...'
So does seeding unfinished torrents doesn't count into the amount of uploaded data?
The be clear: Rationator says I have uploaded 803.07GB. If I now seed for 10GB, but from an unfinished torrent, my uploads will still be 803.07 instead of 813.07?
Or is it just for determining whether a torrents status will be labeled as 'active' or 'seeding' for the tracker?
First - I have read the rationator page - it didn't give me any hint about my problem.
Rationator info:
Uploaded Downloaded Ratio Current minimum Ratio Download Buffer
803.07 GB 471.42 GB 1.704 0.600 Your Download Buffer is about 867.02 GB
Right now I have 10 active torrents - they are all seeding, not downloading.
But all of them are not complete downloads - I just downloaded the files I wanted.
Not, from time to time, some torrents get blocked from uploading.
Then I get the message: "Too many torrents.. your current limit is 15 at the same time" in the tracker tab.
I guess its obvious that there must be something wrong…. maybe someone can tell me, what the problem is....
PS: After a certain time they get unblocked and all is back seeding on normal.
Hi all,
with gtru I have a very low upload rate all times. I am using utorrent. Upload rates for a torrent hardly exceed 3kb/s and they are not constant. So I hardly reach the downloaded amount of MB in upload, even if I leave the respective torrents active really long (several months at least).
The strange thing is that it is completely different with gaytorrents.net or gaytorrent.org - there I get very good upload rates and mostly even exceed the downloaded filesize in the respective upload.
Has anyone any idea what the reason for this could be? Maybe not enough leechers per torrent in here??? On the other hand I have the same thing with every torrent - even if there is a decent amount of leechers. So I suspect it must have to do something with a setting the ru tracker requires, which I may not have set correctly…
I mean, if it was the same with any site, I would accept - but why is just gtru so slow for me and the others aren't?
Any hints would be very much appreciated.
Sorry to say, your sugguestion to indicate a time is not practicable with the current staffing.
It is a good proposal for a professional site which puts the necessary resources to assure a stable quality of service.
I repeat, you should never been given a time, which was the error leading you to create this topic.
Excuse me very much - I have not planned to post anymore in here but I can't prevent myself from doing so again.
Because what you write is simply not true. I still consider it right that I have been given a time guideline - though I admit that the timeframe may have been a bit optimistic…
BUT
It was not just the time thingy - although the topic title says so - but more the feeling, that I repeatedly ran into problems and made mistakes due to the fact that important information is not present or not acessable enough easily.
This is still my opinion and this was the main goal of this thread. I made a suggestion to improve this (regardess if you name a time for approval or not - that was just a detail in my suggestion and NOT my main goal) and you made me understand that you don't share my opinion and don't this consider improvement necessary.
On the other hand I still do consider it necessary and don't share your opinion.
So this is the point where it gets pointless to discuss any further - that was what I meant with my last posting.
Thanks again and best regards - and this will be my last posting in this topic - I promise. More would be a waste of your and my time.
Dear Brandon and Uwe,
I guess I have understood that going on in this thread will not get anyone any further. From my side it was just a suggestion which I would consider an approvement based on my personal experience in here (probably I am one of the less intelligent users by being the only one running into these problems :)) - do with that suggestion as you like.
Many thanks for your opinions and best regards 
Uwe,
I really can't understand that you don't want to commit yourself. Then make the time long enough - 12 hrs - just a time the staff would say: Thats too long, thats not ok. But then users will have a guideline instead of hanging in the air and having to guess.
About Auto Approval - would it be really that hard to tell: Do this and that and you will get it??? So people could work towards it. I would probably never have applied for it. When I look at the hitlist I read terrabytes of upload and stuff - if i compare myself to that I would never have dared to apply for auto approval.
What bad could happen if the rules would e a bit clearer???
besides of that these two points only would be a minor change to my suggestion in my last posting.
Best regards
Dear Uwe and Brandon,
I am not sure if I made myself understood well.
I am not complaining if there is a "sign" somewhere that says: Average waiting time X hours, please don't get nervous before that time. If you don't have approval after X hours ask a Mod" (or go to the helpdesk etc.).
YOU make the call - you can tell how many hours, you can tell what to do - but then the user will be informed.
When I am told average would be 1 hour I get nevous after two and angry after 4.
When I am told average is 4 this would not happen.
What I am asking for - again - is a clear policy with granted information in an obivous place. Instead of "just wait how long it will take".
We treat all torrents pending for approval, first those seed, then those not seed. A PM to a moderator who works on approval will just make him slow down the approval. Even if you get an answer, it will most likely say be patient or give you the thing to improve, which you would have got anyway when it is yours being reviewed in the queue.
Yes - but 24 hours without notice is a LONG time! Annoying but understandable IF you would prepare the users to expect waiting times up to that.
Uploaders can help more and speed up the approval, by checking themselves if everything is OK:
- no duplicate
- seeding it in their Profile page
- pictures not lost
- respecting the amount of active torrents allowed
And here it is again: What the heck does mean: seeding it in profile page?? I thought pp ist just for info - I can only seed wit my torrent client - or am I wrong again?
What means: pictures not lost? Where shall they go after having uploaded them??
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While I am writing this I got Brandons reply.
And here ist the difference:
…a god row....
…10...
Nothing could illustrate better what I mean. Be specific! I really tried my best to gather all the information from various places and do everything right - but I failed.
I don't just want to critizise over and over without offering solutions.
Why not create the X golden rules of uploading?
0. get information about how to produce torrents here: http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?board=2.0
1. Don't upload duplicates. Check here:http://tracker.gaytorrent.ru/browse.php?showsearch=1
2. Don't upload stuff listed here http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=3592.0
3. Don't use uploads smaller than 50MB (if you have smaller clips - use more of them together in ONE upload)
4. Check here: http://tracker.gaytorrent.ru/userdetails.php?id=userid for the number of active torrents you are supposed to have when uploading a new torrent
5. ALWAYS re-download your uploaded torrent and ONLY seed the re-downloaded version, not the originally created one.
6. In case you won't receive approval within the next X (you staff will have to tell if it will be 2, 5, 10 or more hours) hours check points 1-4 first.
7. If you are sure 1-4 are not violated use the helpdesk and provide the link to your not approved torrent
8. After having uploaded 10 clean and up to the standards torrents you may ask for auto approval (more info here: http://forum.gaytorrents.ru/post explaining auto approval and requesting process)
For a more detailed explanation od upload rules look here http://tracker.gaytorrent.ru/uploadguide.php#467
In case I have missed some points - the list can be expanded probably (BTW - 10 would be nice…greetings from Moses)
I really had to click a lot to collect the stuff above.
Then take that stuff and link it on top of the page instead of "browse" in golden letters (as "browse" is not different from "search" anyway) and also put it on the upload page (replacing/ expanding the current text).
At least this would have been an incredible help for me avoiding MUCH hassle and question marks floating above my head.
best regards.
BTW - I think I have the 10 requested torrents - though connected to many PMs to Mods - too many maybe. 
Dear team of GTru, dear fellow uploaders, dear leechers and lurkers,
since a few days I am in a personal conversation with a Moderator of GTru. This conversation is very civilized but the issue we are talking about is not a plesant one - at least in my opinion. This is the reason I post here to find out if it is just me of if other people may share my opinion.
Before the discussion I want to give a short overview about the goings:
When I first uploaded I could't find any information about how long it would take for torrents to get approved.
So for my first torrent I waited for about three hours and everything was fine.
My second torrent only took 25 minutes.
My third torrent did not get approved. 24 hours later I PMd a Mod and got the message that I have too many other torrents active to get approval. Maybe the information, that I will find the number of active torrents I am supposed to have, when uploading a new torrent, by clicking on my username top left can be found somewhere - I just have never seen it. So I would have appreciated a message of some kind instead of just letting me wait until my impatience would drive me getting active after 24 hours. But anyway - I was aware it was my fault as I did something wrong.
My fourth torrent took 3.5 hours when I got the approval message. But it was not there - I couldn't see it. So again I PMd a Mod and found out that it has been moved to another category. Again my fault - I did look in the wrong place.
My fifth torrent took 45 minutes.
My sixth torrent took 8 minutes.
My seventh torrent took 6 minutes.
My eigth torrent took a bit less than two hours.
My ninth torrent was not approved after 1.5 hours - so I suspected myself to have done anything wrong again an PMd Brandon. It turned out that I did do everything right - just no Mod has had time.
By this time I had become somewhat irritated. What of a time would be normal to wait for approval - my experience went from 6 minutes to 24 hours, by clearly tending to less than an hour. From when on, the probability that it would hang for my own mistakes would be high?
So - after having searched the forums - I asked the Mod how long of a waiting time would be normal.
I got the advice to PM an online Mod after one hour of waiting time to ask for approval. I was very grateful because that sounded like a clear guideline.
From there on after 1.5 to 2 hours I PMd a Mod and everything was fine. Just that I used the ones in the forums instead of the staff list - my fault again. Nevertheless it went well for a few times.
But then - with my last torrent after 1.5 or 2 hours (I dont exacly remember this time span) I wrote one but nothing happend - the mod went offline again, then I wrote to another one - same game. Then - meanwhile after 4 hours I wrote a third PM - and this time I luckily found an approval Mod despite still bothering the forum mods.
This was the pre-story.
[box title=Statement:] I have made a lot of mistakes, sometimes due to my own fault, in other aspects I feel underinformed, in other aspects the information was present somewhere and I just missed it - what can be considered my fault again - although I feel it could have been presented in a more obvious place. Definately after 10 torrents uploaded I feel as unconfident as in the beginning. After an hour of waiting time I start checking everything in utorrent, on the site, with the torrent, checking PMs if there might be a message about anything that went wrong. [/box]
Then I got a message not to spam Mods with PMs assuring me that this will never speed up the process.
As I did nothing what I have not been told to do I was a bit upset and so a discussion went on.
After a few ups and downs I was finally told that I would have to wait how long it ever would take and stop trying to do anything to speed up the process (underlined by a quote from the upload guidelies). It was written in a very polite way and not offending at all but the message still was: Just shut up, wait and don't bother us.
And also I was told that the one MOd who told me to PM after an hour would be trying to be helpful to everyone…
To me this implied, that the others might see that differently.
Which left me very disappointed, seen that GTru lives from uploaders and their efforts. Without uploaders soon there would be probably not much left to moderate.
To me it seems worth considering if the "one-hour-PM"-Mod might be the one with the right attitude towards us uploaders.
[box title=I am very well aware of the following facts:]
All Staff does what they do in their spare time, out of enthusiasm, without getting payment.
If you do a Mod or Admin job right, its whole lot of work.
Despite their effort it may still happen that they are not treated well by users.
Everything they do is taken for granted.
This site can not live without the staffs enthusiasm.[/box]
[box title=But there are also these facts:]
That this site can not live without the uploaders.
Uploading much and frequently, preparing good well illustrated torrents is a lot of work as well.
Many uploaders do it out of enthusiasm and not for leeching benefits.
I am sure many uploaders would on request be willing to help the staff in various means.[/box]
Both groups have chosen what they do voluntarily. An uploader is supposed to upload (obviously). And the staff is supposed to help. These are the roles.
So what's wrong in "trying to help everyone"? What would have been wrong in telling something like "We are trying to approve as quickly as possible and if someone PMs after X hours waiting time it would be ok" instead of "Just wait etc" (like quoted above)?
At least my enthusiasm has suffered a severe drawback I must admit. Its not any more the fun it was before.
I am really considering just to download what I want and to upload whats necessary for my ratio.
I would like to hear everyones opinion who would be interested to take part in this discussion.
Best regards
PS: I have tried to tell the story as impartial as I could. Should anyone of the persons involved see it differently please correct me.
PPS: Excuse my long posting 
Hi mgr,
erstmal vielen Dank für Deine ausführlichen Antworten.
Jetzt ist mir einiges klarer.
Nur noch eine Anmerkung zu Punkt 3:
Selbstverständlich habe ich den torrent natürlich nur hier hochgeladen.
Die Ursache im diesem Fall scheint aber eher zu sein, dass der torrent wohl tatsächlich innerhalb von ein paar Minuten approved war und ich das nicht bemerkt habe, bevor ich hier gepostet habe.
Nch dem es gestern fast zwei Stunden gedauert hatte, habe ich damit auch nicht gerechnet - meine Schuld 
Danke nochmal
VG
Hi,
ich habe drei Fragen:
1. Ich uploade zu .net und zu .ru - aber die upload Raten bei .net sind immer viel höher - bei gleichen Präferenzen und Zuweisungen.
Im Moment uploade ich parallel - aber das Phänomen habe ich schon vorher bemerkt - wenn es nur EINEN aktiven torrent gab, der eigentlich die ganze Bandbreite für sich haben konnte.
Heute ein torrent zu .net 40-60k
Morgen ein torent zu .ru 0-15k
Hat jemand eine Idee, woran das liegen könnte (Lt. Provider habe ih 512 upload - aber das kann sich ja nicht auswirken, wenn es nur einen torrent gibt)
2. Siehe hier: http://tracker.gaytorrent.ru/details.php?id=79836&dllist=1#seeders
Ich habe lt. meinem utorrent bei diesem torrent 984MB hochgeladen. Wie können so viele seeders den torrent komplett haben?
Und wieso steht bei mir bei "uploaded" 2,75MB anstatt 984MB?
3. Ich habe einen zweiten torrent hochgeladen, der noch nicht approved ist. Trotzdem sehe ich in utorrent, dass er schon zwei leecher hat. Wo kommen die denn her???
VG
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