The problem with Schwarzenegger is that he lives in two worlds: the progressive Hollywood world and the Republican politician world. I think personally he probably supports gay marriage, but he's a Republican. If he wants to advance his political career (as a Republican at least) he has to oppose gay marriage or at least not actively promote it. This is why the Republican party needs to divorce itself from the social conservatives. Arnold is really a Barry Goldwater style Republican, but he has to carry water for the social conservatives in order to stay respected in Republican circles.

Actually I don't think he supported Prop 8 (see hxxp://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=50304). I seem to remember after the court decision came down allowing gay marriage, that he said he would not support or get involved with any attempts to amend the California constitution to outlaw gay marriage. I think he figured since the court made the decision he was home free: his fellow Republicans couldn't blame him for allowing gay marriage in California, but he also got to take credit among supporters of gay rights for not opposing the court decision. Prop 8 passing is probably a bit of a nightmare for him actually. A lot of angry people are going to remember his inaction and lukewarm support for the gay marriage efforts and vote accordingly next time he's up for reelection. That's why he wants the Supreme Court to overturn it.

Yeah you're probably right, like I said I mostly think it could be Sam just because I don't like him, lol. It is probably someone obscure. I was actually thinking it might be the red haired waitresses husband. He's kind of strange. In that scene where he came to Sookie's defense when one of the rednecks grabbed her ass, he put his hand on her hair and said something like "you remind me of my baby sister". But it just didn't have a brotherly vibe to it, you know? Maybe it was just poor acting.  :laugh:

Yes, I like Lafayette's character too. He's sort of flaming but he's got a cool kind of dangerous edge to him. I just hope he's not the serial killer, that would make me sad.  I read the other day on TV Guide that the serial killer is "one of the good guys". I think we can eliminate a few people as the killer, especially Jason because a) the police think it might be him which means he probably isn't and b) he's too dumb to kill that many people and get away with it. I think it might be Sam. But maybe that's because I just don't like him.  :laugh:

I've really been enjoying this show. It's very interesting. And may I add that not only are two of the characters gay, but that the show is obviously (in my opinion) drawing a parallel between how the vampires are perceived/treated by the southern (U.S.)/conservative/white/patriarchal society depicted in the show and how homosexuals are perceived/treated by the real southern (U.S.)/conservative/white/patriarchal society. The show was created by Alan Ball (although they are based on the books by Charlaine Harris) an openly gay man.

Oh and how hot is Jason Stackhouse?!?! It's too bad his character is such a dumbass, lol. Every scene he's in, I don't know whether I want to smack him or fuck him. 

Saw the trailer for Milk, a biopic about Harvey Milk, over at the Apple trailers site today. It looks really good. See the trailer here: hxxp://www.apple.com/trailers/focus_features/milk/

(Not sure where this belongs but this seemed like the fitting place. If not, mods can move it.)

via Valleywag hxxp://valleywag.com/5042796/veoh-wins-dmca-case-against-gay-porn-producer-titan-media

In a summary judgement issued today, Judge Howard Lloyd of the Northern California Federal District Court declared that online video site Veoh can not be held liable for copyright infringement in a case brought by the Io Group, an adult content producer better known as Titan Media. Users had uploaded clips of steamy man-on-man action to Veoh, including one clip which ran 40 minutes. Rather than issue takedown notices to Veoh, the Io Group sued immediately for infringement. The judge found that Veoh's policies and practices in terms of policing the site — both at the time and currently — were "reasonable." Such practices include fingerprinting video files in order to block identical copies from being uploaded in the future and disabling the accounts of repeat infringers, which the site has done 1,096 times since it's launch, according to the company. The precedent it sets could very well aid YouTube in it's defense of similar allegations brought in the suit by Viacom. After the jump, highlights from Lloyd's decision.

When Veoh allowed adult material on the site, it was all about customer service:

Veoh employees occasionally “spot check” videos after publication for compliance with Veoh’s policies and to ensure accuracy in the description and categorization of the content. For example, Veoh has, on occasion, edited the video description field. And, when adult content was still permitted on veoh.com, Veoh employees sometimes reviewed files to ensure proper ratings on any file containing sexually explicit material and reviewed sexually explicit files to determine whether they should be identified as “gay” or “straight” and added tags as needed.

Lloyd also made it clear that "reasonable" steps to keeping serial infringers off the site does not have to include blocking IP addresses, since those only identify the computer, not the user:

Here, Io has presented no evidence suggesting that tracking (or verifying) users’ actual identity or that blocking their IP addresses is a more effective reasonable means of implementation. There is no material dispute that, while IP addresses identify a particular computer connected to the Internet, they do not distinguish between users (e.g., family members) who may share the same computer.

The plaintiffs also argued that Veoh, in transcoding video into Flash and pulling stills for thumbnail preview images, exempted it from the DMCA's safe harbor provisions. Again, the judge disagreed:

Essentially, the issue is whether Veoh is disqualified from Section 512’s safe harbor because of automated functions that facilitate access to user-submitted content on its website. In the context of Veoh’s business, this appears to be a matter of first impression. Based on the record presented, this court concludes that Veoh is not disqualified from Section 512(c) safe harbor on this basis.

In the end, it's a big win for Veoh and for other online video sites — users can upload all the copyrighted ass-fucking they want, but as long as they follow standard DMCA procedure, they can rest assured that they won't be held liable.

@juancho:

but even in cases where women admits liking porn, there only seem to be a very little fraction of straight women admitting to like watching gay porn.

This I concede, however it is more popular than you might think. I read somewhere that in Germany for example, gay male porn is very popular with women, so much so, that they commonly get together to watch it. Don't know if this is actually true, lol, though it wouldn't surprise me since I think that many places in Europe are much more socially/sexually liberal than the United States (where I'm from).

females are by nature bisexual. it has something to do with being very expressive, accepting, in-touch with her feelings and not restrained by societal norms to hide them (as opposed to men being afraid to show these said emotions in public for fear of being labeled gay or weak), and the whole psychological aspect of growing up as a female. i believe there's a part of the kinsey report that explains this.

bisexual in this context does not exclusively mean (only) the sexual intercourse aspect. we are also talking about feelings, acceptance, psychological aspect, etc.

I think the Kinsey report comes to the conclusion that for the most part everybody is somewhat bisexual, not just females. But I would probably agree with you that women are probably more open to that than men. But again I think that has a lot to do with social conditioning. It seems like men have a lot more fallout and consequences if they decide they are bisexual or gay than women. Everything from being seen as a potential pedophile (nobody ever seems to think that a lesbian might be a pedophile) to being told they are not real men, etc. etc.

in fact, by definition, the best sexual experience (sexual intercourse) (according to studies) happens between a female and another female.

they postulated that the act of sexual intercourse is basically just the use of our tools and its manipulation. which means, if you both have the same tools, you already know how it works and use already proven techniques to make it work. male and female homosexuals have this advantage but females, unlike males, have a very wonderful sexual response cycle in which, when properly stimulated, can give them multiple orgasms (as opposed to males who must deal with the plateau phase after ejaculation). plus, since females are generally caring, gentle, accepting, warm, verbally expressive, etc. then these qualities will enhance the sexual experience.

heterosex is far from that since they both have different equipments and they don't really know how it works, or what technique works best or how it exactly feels when those tools were being manipulated. they're just basically trying to enjoy themselves while hoping for the best that whatever it is they're doing is also making their partner happy or at least satisfied.

That's an interesting theory. Kind of depressing for a straight girl to hear, but interesting nonetheless, lol.  :laugh:

@geekguy:

I don't think it that weird that katyggls likes gay porn, just like it's not weird for straight guys to like porn with lesbian action (very feminine, like juancho says).

Thanks for not thinking I'm weird, geekguy. ;D I admit that juancho's post kind of came off like he thought that it was weird so my back got up a little. He probably didn't intend that though, I'm just defensive about the issue.

The weirdness that got people going is; why would a LESBIAN want to watch gay porn, or a gay guy watch lesbian porn? That makes no sense to me.  Juancho, you got anything that explains that?!  (Not a dis, I find your previous arguments very compelling)

Like I said before, this is even a tiny bit puzzling to me. I guess we'll never know from tamoachan's pov, since it appears she won't be returning to the thread  , but my theory is that she is a lesbian like she said, but at least some small part of her must get turned on by guys. So maybe she's mostly a lesbian but a little bit bi too? I kind of hate saying that, because who the hell am I to define someone else's sexuality, but it's just my opinion. Not that it matters, lol.

@juancho:

**there are actually conditions for a lesbian porn to work on the straight man psyche:

1. they have to beautiful and sexy
2. they have to be feminine lesbians (lipstick lesbians) and not the butch type (lumberjack lesbians)
3. they have to have a scene in that film/movie where they (or at least 1 of them) was being fucked by a guy

I agree except for number three. I'm pretty sure a lot of straight guys can enjoy a girl on girl film with no men involved. You only have to look at how many girl on girl films exclusively without men in them of any type are produced to know this. If guys didn't like it, the porn studios wouldn't produce them. And yes, I'm still talking about movies that are marketed towards men, not lesbians.

_**as for the women liking gay sex, it is actually out of the ordinary because even though females have this fantasy of being fought over by 2 or more attractive guys, this fantasy happens mostly to straight females and not lesbians (the logic being that lesbians aren't turned on sexually by guys wanting to have sex and/or relationship with her).

I think you are way over generalizing about females. While I agree it's probably not as common for women to like gay male porn than it is for men to like lesbian porn, a lot of that has to do with the fact that many females feel a lot of shame/guilt about viewing ANY porn, let alone gay porn. Women are usually afraid that if someone finds out they watch porn, people will think they're slutty/whorish/like sex too much (in the world of women, being seen as liking sex too much gets you labeled as a whore/slut and abnormal).

I can also tell you that most women do not actually fantasize about men "fighting over them". That's freaking bizarre. If two men fought over me, I'd think they were both douchebags and go find someone else.  ;D Women don't have nearly the egos that straight men do, so we don't need men to fight over us to stroke our fragile self-esteem.  :P**_**

@juancho:

no one can really say for sure if these ladies are who they really claim to be but if what they are claiming are true then let's just be thankful that our fixed notions of likes/dislikes are being re-defined and its boundaries being widened.

I suppose people do lie a lot on the internets, but usually when people lie they do so for a fairly logical reason. What gain would there be for a man saying he was female on a mostly gay male forum? Wouldn't the opposite situation be more logical (a female on a gay male forum pretending to be male)? I'm not picking over this but I am genuinely curious. Is people lying about their sex a common occurrence on this forum?

this is a good thing. it means that we have evolved. maybe one day these boundaries will disappear and we will finally be happy living our lives the way we want it to be without the confines of having to live it according to "labels" (gay, straight, bi, etc.) and according to fixed forced norm based on antiquated ideas or religiously defined rules.

I hope so. I'd love to not get weird looks whenever people find out that I'm a fan of gay porn, lol. I don't go around sharing it with everyone but occasionally someone notices my Brent Corrigan desktop wallpaper and is like "WTF! Gay porn on a girl's computer! head explodes".  ;D

these ladies like watching guys fuck each other.

it is weird but not a completely impossible idea to grasp.

It's not really that weird if you think about it. Most straight guys like to watch two girls go at it. It's kind of the same concept for girls who like gay porn. There are other factors of course. I mean, have you seen any straight porn lately? Most of it is so…misogynist. (Does my use of the word misogynist in an actual sentence prove I'm a girl yet? :P)

The only reason nobody thinks it's weird that straight guys like lesbian porn is because they're men and people expect them to be sexual. Even though it's the twenty first century, a lot of people still think women are not/or should not be sexual creatures who go out looking for what gets them off. Hopefully, that too will change eventually.