When are lines drawn?
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What is it about rape and violent bloody fight vids on this site. I'm all for a good perv' and I have many kinks I'm no shrinking wall flower and have never been but there is something about these Rape videos on this site and now today there is a violent cage fighting video described as 'bloody'. Surly the fight video can be found on any cable network if that is what gets you off and do we really need up-loads depicting violent rape under the heading 'Fetish'? Personally I don't think GT should be providing a platform for violence, there are the 'Best Gore' sites and a-like for that.
When are lines drawn - discuss!
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I wonder if this should not be better placed in the "Discussions" section to have a more prominent place.GayTorrent.ru tries to regulate that with the banned content list:
"… The following TYPES OF PORN are not allowed, if real or claimed/appears to be real:
Child Exploitation or Underage Porn
Shota (aka: shouta, shotacon, shotakon)
Rape
Snuff (Murder)
Necrophilia (Sex with dead people)
Cannibalism
Bestiality (sex with or using animals)
Mutilation & Blood Consumption
Non-Sexual Bondage & TortureIf you find material that seems to cross the line of basic common decency, please contact a moderator so it can be evaluated. Also, if you are unsure about material you want to upload, ask the Helpdesk. …"
and the following Uploading Rules:
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6. All non-porn material must have LGBTQ THEMED CONTENT (Plot / Characters) or involve VOYEURISM of the ADULT MALE PHYSIQUE.
…"It is to noted that in view of teenage boy physiques movies reported recently, the rules has been amended to precise "ADULT". Of course that doesn't prohibit LGBTQ Themed Movies with teenage models, e.g. coming out or coming of age movies.
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I have no problem with relocating this post.
I hear you and understand, however with a simple search using the word 'Rape' this is what I pulled up:
I understand the premise of 'one persons kink is another man hell' and I am usually in the front row when telling others not to down load something they object to it (as long as its all between consenting adults), however a depiction of a violent crime showing an act that is not between consenting adults (regardless if its being acted or not) is to me a line crossing moment. The S&M material on this site is not a crime in the real world, rape is and therefore I believe such material should not be allowed on this site along with 'blood' sports.
Its just my opinion.
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Murder is a crime in the real world so you would ban https://www.gaytorrent.ru/details.php?id=35000ae6e03f0d6da603fff48cef247cda88e01d02d7580e&hit=1 ?
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I would no more ban this than any other murder mystery movie on TV, but then on TV or at the movies you do not get films that solely depict graphic and violent depictions of rape for the sole purpose of rape. There is a world of difference between the movie you linked me to and the vids on this site that act out (if in deed that is what is happening) violent rape scenes to satisfy some blokes sexual kink.
Also the other up-load I mentioned was the real cage fighting vid that was described as 'bloody', no sex no nudity no reference to LGBT community what-so-ever, I object to that as well.
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In the hope to get more members involved in this interesting topic, I've moved it to the "Discussions' board.
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Shouldn't been prohibited not consented spy cam stuff, rather than fantasy rape scene porn?
For example OurGTN.org got quite explicit rules regarding spy cam content …
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I'm talking about violence.
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If you find material that seems to cross the line of basic common decency, please contact a moderator so it can be evaluated.
When I wrote that line in the rules, I meant exactly that.
We have a small number of staff compared to the work load. This means that we need our members to help us keep GayTorrent.ru a decent place to come/cum to.
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I do agree that there are a lot of non physique based wrestling on here and wonder how people can get off on it.
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I would like to add my two-cents worth. I believe it is entirely appropriate for GTRU to remove any post that includes blood, especially when used as entertainment. That would include dog-fighting, bear-baiting, MMA, wrestling, etc. Of course, it is up to the users to report the matter.
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Any animal cruelty automatically falls under our "crosses the line of basic decency". The same applies to blood being used in sex acts. The only possible exception in theme movies.
I do tend to agree that we should possibly/probably ban blood in "sport" torrents. We aren't a sports site, so I'm see no reason to have non physique wrestling.
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I would like to add my two-cents worth. I believe it is entirely appropriate for GTRU to remove any post that includes blood, especially when used as entertainment. That would include dog-fighting, bear-baiting, MMA, wrestling, etc. Of course, it is up to the users to report the matter.
dog-fighting and bear-bating already don't fit, because it isn't neither porn, nor LGBTQ themed, nor a free torrent or media application. So it doen't even need blood or cruelty been shown.
I've seen some "catching" (in opposite to wrestling) with violence, which to me appeared as acted/played and not real. Simply bad taste theatre, but not crossing the line (e.g. to fall under "Mutilation & Blood Consumption" or "Non-Sexual Bondage & Torture"). There was no blood involved though. Up to everyone to decide on its own if he/she wants to watch that.
We allow not porn, not LGBTQ themed content for the attraction of the adult male physics and the examples given as "bodybuilding, wrestling and underwear/swimwear" have a quite important following with our membership. Common is the half naked body, respectively tight sportswear and/or athletic or muscular bodies.
Personally I hope that blood sport question regulates itself by not finding a follow-ship. The recent torrent (and as I know only) has not been reported as "seems to cross the line of basic common decency", so it seems not be very bloody or of cruel violence, or those who don't like such content were efficiently scared away by the description.
What means MMA?
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Mixed Martial Arts
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It's an interesting point.
In the UK illegal pornography is generally defined in terms of:
Possession and distribution
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Extreme content or able to corrupt the audienceThe descriptors are vague and really address a pre-internet era reality.
Extreme pornography in relation to harm to others is very specific though. Judgement is made as to the degree of harm the physical body is perceived to receive because of the acts depicted. This can range from possession of fisting porn (recently an attempted prosecution based on this was thrown out of a UK court) to rape and violence where blood and actual bodily harm can be seen.
I've wondered if technically speaking possession of gay rape genre videos downloaded from the internet would be illegal in the UK. Certainly in the UK there is concern about the rape porn websites that exist to cater for those who are turned on by that genre. But the driving force is generally concerned about rape against women and not gay fetish as such. Personally i think some of the gay rape enactment vids which pop up on the gay torrent sites have nothing to do with the extreme s&m fetish videos and are specifically rape focused in nature judging by the screen caps.
Enactment (consensual) vs actual (non consensual) is a key to the legality and it's tricky ground at least in the UK. However cases have been tried in the UK where the enactments were consensual but the level of injury to the body was deemed illegal. ( A famous s&m trial some years back.) The recent case of a bestiality trial where the animal in question was proved to be a person in costume overturned the attempt to convict on the basis of possession of bestial pornography. So the consensual issue is important and needs to be proven. Therefore consensual enactment of rape could be legal if the level of harm to the physical body is negligible and legal notices indicating consensual can be verified.
Where in the UK the prosecution fails to secure a successful trial on the basis of possession, distribution, depiction of extreme content or non consensual activity, they can turn to the issue of 'liable to corrupt the audience'. Of course as soon as one tries to interpret the issue of 'liable to corrupt' things become ambiguous and there is a lot of misunderstanding about what at the fringe end of pornography is illegal because of the loose terms which define the law in the UK .
For example both consensual rape enactment and scat porn are flagged up as both illegal and legal in the UK. On the one hand they are consensual (where known to be provable) and do not depict actual bodily harm but on the other both can appear extreme by definition and could corrupt if possession is within the vicinity of children for example in a family home or the defendant appears to have an unnecessarily unhealthy interest in the fetish indicated by large collections of material and extensive social networks orientated around the fetish. There are mixed indications regarding the number of prosecutions in the UK with some sources indicating success in certain cases whilst other sources site these as entirely legal. It appears that each case does to a a degree get considered within it's own context and is subject to the views of the judge or jury overseeing the interpretation and application of the law upon it's own situation.
So one suspects the mods here must make decisions about content in the same way, on a case by case basis. I've been curious as to which country's laws the mods apply taking that no international agreement exists for regulation of some of the extreme porn available such as rape porn - but famously child pornography has generally been the notable exception to the otherwise lack of consistency in international law.
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