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    John Kirakou interview: Bush & Obama both horrid criminals

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      blablarg18 last edited by blablarg18

      Bush - did CIA illegal torture program, later proven by Senate report.

      Obama - did lawfare to protect torturers, punish whistleblower.

      Youtube Video

      & torture didn't get anything.

      One al Qaeda guy was waterboarded 83 times, another 147. It only trained them to confess, by reflex, to crimes they could not have done.

      USA after WW2, executed Japanese who had waterboarded USA peeps.

      FBI, despite its other faults, got more from al Qaeda prisoners by patience & building repoire.

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        Torture is BS and has always been so. It gets people to confess to things they never did in hopes of ending the torture, as you pointed out.

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          blablarg18 @raphjd last edited by blablarg18

          @raphjd & Obama droned thousands of people - even USA citizens NOT charged with crimes & NOT legally identified as terrorists or combatants.

          Talk about unconstitutional.


          btw, 1 bad name that comes up in interview - "Judge" Leonie Brinkema.

          She grabs every case of USA intel whistleblower - Kirakou, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, whatever - so she can punish them, deny their entire defense.

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