report: US to push for Ukraine elections in ceasefire deal with Russia
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Remember: Ukraine cancels elections. Zelensky is dictator.
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New USA administration, slags Zelensky.
It's theater...but still, first time that USA has admitted
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Zelensky is dictator, no legitimacy
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war is retarded, unnecessary, & Europe's problem
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war effort has been corrupt / looted
VP Vance statements:
President Trump statements:
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Lib media plays their "Without Evidence" card.
From them, it means: TONS of evidence.
Here is evidence, that Zelensky is dictator.
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In year 6 of his 5 year term
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rules by martial law since 2022 & anti-constitutionally since 2024, when he lost office due to expired term (& no re-election)
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He cancels required elections
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Banned 11 political parties
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Banned all media except 1 government channel
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Pics where Zelensky bro-hugs leaders of Nazi Azov Brigade
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Any journalist he doesn't like, get thrown on front lines to die (if Ukrainian) or thrown in jail to die (Gonzalo Lira, American)
That's tons of evidence. SO, lib media claims absurd opposite
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Newsweek: "There are concerns Zelensky could be voted out."
So, votes are anti-democratic. Now.
https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-could-ousted-trump-demands-ukraine-election-2033083
concern that Russia could...install a pro-Kremlin leader
Nope!
It's an election. Only Ukraine peeps, could install new leader - whether pro-peace or pro-war.
War support has plunged - it's true. Ukraine people want peace.
But either way: It's for Ukraine people, to decide.
Democracy use to mean: Consult them, by vote.
Now it's twisted to mean: Don't let them vote.
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The Economist: "Europe's worst nightmare...bleakest week since the fall of the Iron Curtain".
Not the war!
And not Zelensky dictatorship, where his best buds are Nazi Azov Brigade.
You'd think war, vast casualties since 2022, & dictator who bro-hugs with literal actual Hitlerists, would be Europe's bleakest nightmare.
You'd think. But no. The Economist is OK with that stuff.
But PEACE & ELECTIONS....... Trump who wants peace, democratic elections & financial accountability (clean up the war money-laundering ops)....
THAT
is EU & The Economist worst nightmare.They are beyond "fucked up"
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Denmark PM, Mette Frankenstein - sorry, Frederiksen - will fight to the last Ukrainian.
"Peace in Ukraine may be more dangerous than ongoing war, says Danish PM"
Not enough blood yet, for her.
Team Bloodthirsty
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Trump to Zelensky: "You're gambling with World War 3, and what you're doing is very disrespectful".
video - https://x.com/i/status/1895532887325462926
But I laughed, when even Zelensky gave people careful history lesson, that Russia invaded him under Obama & Biden whose guarantees were weak & worthless.
As Trump says: Zelensky position is terrible. Poor guy.
His people hate him.
Early in 2022 - many deaths ago - he could have had peace deal, where he gives up Crimea & NATO membership, but, keeps other big territories that Russia has taken since.
Criminals Bojo (UK), Nuland, Blinken & Biden vetoed it. They told Zelensky, don't take any deal. But he should have.
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Trump after-comment. "I have determined that President Zelenskyy is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations. I don’t want advantage, I want PEACE. He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready for Peace."
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@blablarg18 A few personal thoughts on this whole thing... (not arguing against you, just sharing my views in general)
war is retarded, unnecessary, & Europe's problem
That's an incredibly short-sighted position to take (even from a purely selfish national point of view). It's also ironic that this is the exact opposite of what many in the US consider to be their finest hour enacted by "the greatest generation".
Zelenskyy is a dictator
Not going to argue with that, but scolding him as one while not treating Putin the same way (even though he is arguably a much bigger dictator) makes the US look like massive hypocrites (and makes Trump look like all the libdem slander about him being BFF's with Russia was actually true).
His position is terrible
Undeniably true, but the same could've been said for every European country that was overrun by the Nazis.
His people hate him.
Not the ones I've spoken to (both currently living in Ukraine and in other European countries). This seems to be one of those media narratives.
"You're gambling with World War 3"
How ridiculous would it have been if the US had told European countries & the UK in the 1940's: stop fighting back and just make a deal with Hitler, you're risking world war 2! If you can't defend yourself for fear of war then that just means signaling to every aggressor that it's open season and that they will get away with it, which encourages more war. Case in point: Russia took Crimea in 2014 and was allowed to get away with it. Did they stop there? Of course not, why would they... Drawing firm lines with overwhelming consequences is what actually stop wars from happening. Weakness only invites them.
He was being disrespectful
Maybe, but not nearly as disrespectful as Vance and Trump were being to him. Oval office or not, treating foreign leaders with respect is a two-way street and Zelenskyy wasn't the one shouting at his counterpart.
I like Trump a lot on most things.
I can respect his position of putting America first.
I can respect his business-oriented view of who has the weaker hand in this conflict.
But the way he appears to give zero consideration to right & wrong, to which side is trying to invade and annex the other and which side is fighting to protect their homeland from being conquered... That really makes me lose a lot of respect for him. If the shoe was on the other foot and the US was being invaded I'm sure he would advocate for fighting back with everything they have instead of capitulating, but if it's another country then they're the bad guy for not simply taking the loss? Ridiculous. -
@Rapsey-0 We disagree. It's cool.
Except your analogies are strained, your info looks incomplete & that means you get "info firehose".
"the greatest generation"
Oh please. Another WW2 analogy
Japan bombed USA territory & kids, Pearl Harbor. Germany, allied to Japan officially, declared war on USA (first) & sank USA ships.
Russia isn't even slightly like that. Meanwhile, in WW2, Ukraine helped Germany.
Let that sink in.
Ukraine & Russia were both in Soviet Union.
One of them (Russia, plus Russians of what is now called "eastern Ukraine") spent 25 million lives fighting Hitler.
The other (western Ukraine, today beloved by Germany & EU) rose up in Hitler's favor & formed "Waffen SS" military units to help Hitler.
Today in 2025, their spiritual (& sometimes physical) desendants are Ukraine's Azov Brigade & other Banderist, pro-Nazi units.
Shall I re-post photos of Ukraine troops who modeled their signs on Nazi-SS?
scolding [Zelensky] as [dictator] while not treating Putin the same way
Fact check: USA has massive sanctions on Putin and Russia........... many put in place -by Trump- 45.
& I condemn all dictators. Putin, Zelensky, China, you name it
& Putin at least holds scheduled elections. Why won't Zelensky? Because he'd lose.
Yes, his people hate him - Zelensky cancels elections & Free Speech, for no other reason than, he fears elections & Free Speech.
Zelenskyy wasn't the one shouting at his counterpart.
Yes he was. Plus, he called JD Vance "bitch" in Russian.
How ridiculous would it have been if the US had told European countries & the UK in the 1940's: stop fighting back and just make a deal with Hitler
Again, Ukraine is in bed with Nazi.
So............Under Biden, -USA ALREADY DID- "tell UK & Europe, just make a deal with Hitler". Trump wants to un-do that, yay!
Ukraine really needs to change. I am pro-Ukraine person here, because
- I want them to stop dying
- I want them to stop being Nazi
I guess we do need some pictures.
a little here: https://community.gaytorrent.ru/topic/65351/u-s-lifts-weapons-and-training-ban-on-ukraine-s-azov-nazi-brigade
More.
typical Azov soldier:
Zelenksy bro-hugs known, Nazi Azov commanders & calls them heroes:
video - https://twitter.com/i/status/1677675010985435137
Denis Prokopenko, Sviatoslav Palamar, Sergey Volynsky, Oleg Khomenko, and Denis Shlega
still more
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![1682957103972-media-ukraine-nazi[1].jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1711650511507-1682957103972-media-ukraine-nazi-1.jpg)
& I've posted even more, that I just can't find quickly.
They don't model themselves after SS by accident.
Their great-grandfathers fought in WW2 literally for "Waffen SS".
ps. Don't you dare say, now, that I mention WW2 too much. because YOU, brought up WW2 here
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Yes he was disrespectful.
It appears Zelenskyy said “suka/cyka blyat” while Vance was speaking.
This has a range of interpretations from a “fuck” meant to vent frustration, but not targeted at anyone, to a targeted “fuck you” or “bitch”.
It's worth it to bring up this
on separate page to see notes/timestamps.
@Rapsey-0 One more thing: In 2024, Zelensky came to USA & campaigned for opposition.
If that isn't election interference........................ and disrespect of USA people.....................
what ever would be?
Zelensky in PA with Gov. Shapiro. They sign weapons......... as if war & death are good?
& I won't even get into -WHETHER- Zelensky, GRU or Azov sponsored Ryan Routh in some way.
Ryan Routh is Trump assassin who, btw, has pedophile son & openly preached nuclear war.
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Libs.
Does that
exaggerate?Not much.
"Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)."
Dems think it's 2022, when USA peeps liked Zelensky.
But it isn't & they don't.
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Why does this post literally feel like desperate Russian propaganda? Chill tf out dude
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Ah, so someone can not call out the bad things about Ukraine, without being "Russia Propaganda".
I do find it interesting that you are willing to ignore Ukraine's nazi connections of the last 80+ years, as well as other evils so you can demonize Russia.
