Israel study: natural immunity (covid) is at least 6 times better, maybe 12 to 27 times better, than vaxx
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This study from Israel compared natural immunity alone (no vaxx) to vaxx immunity alone (no natural immunity).
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/75/1/e545/6563799?login=false
Results
SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% confidence interval [CI], 8.08–21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to unvaccinated-previously-infected individuals, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time between March 2020 and February 2021, evidence of waning naturally acquired immunity was demonstrated, although SARS-CoV-2 naive vaccinees still had a 5.96-fold (95% CI: 4.85–7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI: 5.51–9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease.
Depending on time frame & exactly what outcome, natural immunity alone was anywhere from 6 to 27 times better than vaxx alone, at preventing covid infection, symptoms & hospitalization.
"Hybrid immunity" (having both) was not studied here.
Similar results were reached by previous studies eg, USA "Cleveland Clinic" studies.
So the result in general is not new - but it will be new to some people, plus study itself is new, making it "news".
It looked at 2021, "Delta variant" era - does not address today - except, the immunology principles carry over & it would be amazing if today's situation were different.
Study found that both natural & vaxx immunity wane over time. Except vaxx wanes faster & more, so again, natural immunity wins a point.
This is info not advice. Everyone's situation is different.
And some people - perhaps younger men (cough) at risk for vaxx-related heart damage - may well find that further covid vaxx is medically unnecessary & bad, for them.
Other studies have found that natural immunity is good across variants ie. against new variants.
One possible reason is that the vaxx focus (too) narrowly on the covid "spike protein" which always changes in new covid variants - while natural immunity tends to cover the entire virus. In technical terms, natural immunity gives much broader epitope/paratope coverage including "conserved" parts of the virus, parts unchanged in new variants.
In layman's terms: If you are technically "unvaccinated" but you had covid before & recovered, nature has given you a good vaccine.
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@blablarg18 Why does this not surprise me? I've said from the beginning that something wasn't right about that vaxx. I normally strongly encourage them, it's just that everything about that particular vaxx seemed rather sketchy and suspicious right from the very beginning.
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@MrMazda Same.
The covid vaxx offer weak protection, with injury rates 100x greater than injury rates that got other vaccines pulled from the market.
In the past, a vaccine was pulled from the market if it injured 1 in 100,000 people.
Covid vaxx offer weak protection if any, while injuring 1 in 800 or 1 in 1000 which is as bad as covid disease these days - and they aren't pulled from the market. Why not?
The 1 in 800 injury rate still sounds small - until it happens to you, or until you realize it's 125x greater than we've tolerated before.
Vaxx defenders are a joke. They say in a GENERAL or GENERIC way, "Vaccines have been proven safe & effective". It's true - for market products OTHER THAN these shit covid vaxxes.
In other words, defenders try to shove these shit covid products in with the other good vaccines of the past, that really did work & were safe. A form of lying.
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@blablarg18 Yeah.... OTHER vaccines are fine as they had a long track record of proven results before being mandated in any way.
THIS vaccine on the other hand went through far less checks and balances and had no proven data for short or long term of results before being mandated. It just didn't make any sense to me.
What also didn't make sense to me is that these other vaccines that have been mandated took YEARS of development and multiple trials before being deemed safe and effective, with some even going on further to be mandated for some things.
THIS vaccine on the other hand seemed to have been developed in a matter of months for a disease we barely seemed to know anything about, then was pushed and mandated before any sensible data could be collected. The rushed nature of it among other things just seemed highly unusual to me.
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@MrMazda One more thing: Biden has called for a new covid vaccine "that works":
video clip - https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1695167661645386129
As people say: His comment implies (admits?) existing covid vaxx don't work.
I'll leave it there, lest this turn into politics.
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