Vanishing torrents ...
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@eobox91103 I am so happy and really appreciate your reply.
Oh I love to share more of course. I do it to share and spread the love for boys to those who does not have access to them in their region or does not have the funds because they are still starting out with their young adult lives and someday they'll be paying subscribers like me. I make copies on my hard drive for my own collection of the ones I like so why not share?
As for the take down process, yes it's quite baffling to me but how or why only here? Where is the leak coming from? It makes me feel uncomfortable like someone is already looking over my shoulder as to what I am posting next.
I'm only active in 2 gay torrent sites. I guess you'd already know which is the other one as there has been so many here looking to get there. I've been a member there since 2004 and here since 2013. I also do get hundreds or even more than 2000 completed downloads per title there but there is already a lot of competition and there seems to be a race to who gets to upload first.
This has been my reason to get more active here. Why bother sticking myself in a tight place and compete with others to get something up to get most of the download credits. LOL, I find it so funny. They are also without their issues. 2 weeks worth of uploads wiped out. Including the credits earned! I didn't bother re-upping what was wiped, only for those requested in the forum. Speaking of forum, it's overwhelming there. And most notably, the search engine there is so confusing. Here in GayTor, you get a straight-forward search result. But what makes their site works is the transparency and their stern and detailed rules, ban list and guidelines etc.
So when I saw the difference of the categories I'm interested in here from there; I jumped in and decided to stop posting there and work on here. I may not get as many downloads compared to there but I'm satisfied and hoping that it will grow someday. Plus, I do get to upload some uncut titles here that does not get to be uploaded there. There are some people here who do appreciate it that I have been sharing what they like and they would either comment or send me a chat. Also, I'm one of the very few who uses the GayTor Upload Utility made by Vander. We get to chat using the chat utility here as I usually report if a problem arises in his updates and provide input and feature request. I think he prefers to use the chat function compared to forum posting.
You are right on the well-constructed part. It takes time and effort to do those. Even the screenshots, I don't use a utility for them. I manually scan the video for shots that may spark interest for would-be downloaders and save them one by one but I also use the screenshots for making videos and posting them on my Tumblr or Tik-Tok. I just find it fun getting subscribers daily or just by getting a like.
I am glad that you have enjoyed some of my uploads. They may not be my work but I am happy to have shared their work that made you happy.
So . . . . . we'll see.
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@john32123666 Yes, thank you for the answer and also grateful for you advise.
TC & Have A Great Day too!
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Hi. Update: New DMCA record: I received it within 3 minutes from upload. The torrent had a generic name, thumbnails created by me so I am tempted to think that we are taking about a user here who reports them. Anybody else experiencing similar issues ? I understand details cannot be shared but maybe if you noticed any patterns.
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@mihaig110 said in Vanishing torrents ...:
I am tempted to think that we are taking about a user here who reports them.
It does sound that way. Admins could probably look to see if the IP address from which the DMCA complaint was sent matches that of an active user (although they can't confirm doing this as such would be a confidential internal process).
If they find a match, perhaps some system glitch would occur that deletes that user's account. We all know that software can do weird things sometimes.
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If your torrent is report, please check to see if people are still downloading. Continue to seed please!!
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@dilemmax
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@dilemmax said in Vanishing torrents ...:
If your torrent is report [taken down], please check to see if people are still downloading. Continue to seed please!!
I would underscore this. Even if the tracker software doesn't give upload credit for this seeding, we've all had the frustration of not being able to complete a download because other seeders have evaporated. If you're connected to another peer when the torrent is deleted, the connection with that other user will stay active (at least that's been my experience).
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I had a bunch but I updated utorrent and it's cleared. Im bad at using this type of thing
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@eobox91103 Yikes. Apologies for not proofreading my last post. So it looks like we do have an "agent" that is actively looking for torrents to takedown. There was a torrent with a coded name that only lasted for two hours (so glad I caught it) before it was removed.
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@MrMazda I would agree that it is not possible to know that it was not due to a DMCA request.. except for the fact that I have been paying close attention to patterns, and tested it myself with a recent upload. There are instances in which a new torrent appears on the site, but is removed from the site within one hour of it being posted. It is not conceivable that someone uploaded a torrent, and within one hour, someone found that torrent, downloaded that torrent, reported that torrent, and got a moderator to review that torrent. So, there was no request made to begin with.. which means... ?
There IS one legitimate explanation. the moderator could have mistakenly thought that the newly posted torrent was a duplicate of files already on the site. But the problem with that is.. they were not duplicates, and the message sent said it was a DMCA request, and not because it was a duplicate. But.. again, it's impossible that the torrent was found, DMCA request was made and received and reviewed all within one hour.
Perhaps there needs to be a new section...we have ACTIVE, and DEAD.. we should have a DMCA section which lists the torrents which have been removed, and those links are not downloadable. That is what pornolab does (only they have very very VERY few torrents which are not downloadable). That way, people won't make the mistake of uploading the same DMCA violation files again - because they are listed in the DMCA section. Perhaps some unscrupulous users make massive posts - to get download credits, they report their own torrents to get them removed, and then they re-post the same files again to get more credit for them - over and over again.
One other problem could be that the torrents on this site and the comments of this forum can be viewed WITHOUT having a membership. One cannot download any torrents without a membership, nor can one REPLY to messages in this forum without a membership, but they ARE viewable without a membership - which I don't understand.
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@dilemmax the problem with that theory is... let's say there is a scene starring "Freddy Phuk" from "Bentkok Studios". Why is it that ONE scene of "Freddy Phuk" from Bentkok is removed, while several other scenes of Freddy Phuk from Bentkok remain on the site?
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@VGC I really don't think this site needs to advertise by having it listed on Google. Yet the contents of this site ARE found on Google searches.
This problem of "vanishing torrents" has come and gone many times over the past 20 years or so.. and right now it is becoming epidemic.
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@MrMazda I just remembered something. About a year ago, a moderator of this site posted some content of THEMSELVES that they made, and it got removed for being a DMCA violation! Obviously that was a mistake. I don't even recall which moderator it was.
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Like many users, including myself have explained, there are agents using software to comb the internet constantly looking for content. They have a database of content against which they are looking for matches. One photo or a few seconds of video or audio are enough to hit a content match, and a takedown request is sent out automatically. There are also video and image files embedded with a "digital fingerprint" which are automatically identified by the bots looking for content (this goes for a lot of fansite videos and photos). A studio or content creator using these agents will upload the content they want protected to the agent's database. Whether the torrents you upload hit a content match or not depends entirely on whether the videos or images you are sharing here are in the agent's database. Newer content is far more likely to hit a match than older content.
I am sure there are also copyright owners manually searching for content, one I know of in particular
, but they are a minority and must be wasting a considerable amount of time and effort fighting a battle that they will never win.One issue with these agents is that they cannot differentiate between legally and illegally shared content. For example, I may upload a video to my OF page and also to the copyright agent's database to protect it from illegal distribution. Some time later I may decide to share the video as a promo on my Twitter account. The agent's software will find this video and issue a takedown request, because that is ultimately what they are supposed to do.
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@drekkin I don't disagree with you..
but i would point out that a bot is NOT a legitimate entity to be filing DMCA complaints - not that any of the DMCA complaints are legitimate.BUT it goes beyond that.. because as I mentioned, a moderator of this site created his own original content and posted it here.. and it got taken down with a DMCA violation.. so.. something is gagootz with the system of DMCA reviews.
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It seems like we all know the issue at this point. Its not the first time it's happened. It's more aggressive than it's ever been in the past.
I don't know that this is the case of people being paid for specific creators, bots are intelligent but not foolproof, some of the content taken down are also on other torrent engines. Even some of the notoriously aggressive sites (like the european one with guys who barely touch eachother, the wrestling ones that are rarely even actually porn and the photographer that takes super high def pics of european dudes that are pretty softcore) don't 24/7 check and confirm for take down reports lol and I'm seeing some torrents up for about 10 minutes and just grabbing because I'm like "well I guess I can decide if I'll keep it later my ratio is good" and most are deleted well before they finish.
Some of the videos taken down are even available on some tube sites.
Whoever is making this many requests isn't being selective but just massively reporting incredibly quickly but more actively during certain hours of the day.
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Proof is usually right in looking by upload dates at the fansite category. It goes from like 1 day to 1 week.
The straight category has more recent torrents than the fansite category on its first page and I see new torrents on fansite every few hours.
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@lololulu19 Nobody is saying that "a bot" is a legal entity. The legal entities are the agencies who protect the copyrighted content of their clients, They are paid by their clients and act on their behalf. This is all allowed under the DMCA.
You are not the one being wronged here so I don't understand why you are playing the role of victim.
We shouldn't miss the point here too that a lot of torrents are taken down by the mods because they break the upload rules. There's plenty of torrents uploaded here that disappear within hours, not because of DMCA takedowns but because they are garbage.
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@drekkin I think you're missing that some are being deleted before the quality can be verified.
I have my doubts that the last week of OF files are mysteriously that much lower quality than the previous dumps.
Typically the moderators here yes do delete torrents that need to be, poor quality, viruses etc but when duplicates are deleted the older version is usually bumped.
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