Do dead people feel any pain?
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I recently read a twitter comment that was quite poignant.
The person pointed out that dead people feel no pain, so executing criminals is actually doing the criminal a favor. (assuming they are guilty of a crime worth of being executed for).
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Dead people might feel no pain. But in your example, as applied to the executed person, his brain might know he's dead for a short time:
(This, of course, allows his malevolent "brain force" to take over the body of a nearby living person, then gain murderous revenge on everyone who took him down. At least, in the movies.)
And we're already revisiting the topic of executing criminals and the whole sureness of guilt thing? It was quite the divisive flashpoint only a few days ago.
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Dead people might feel no pain. But in your example, as applied to the executed person, his brain might know he's dead for a short time:
(This, of course, allows his malevolent "brain force" to take over the body of a nearby living person, then gain murderous revenge on everyone who took him down. At least, in the movies.)
And we're already revisiting the topic of executing criminals and the whole sureness of guilt thing? It was quite the divisive flashpoint only a few days ago.
That topic will not go away completely.. because I know of a guy who was convicted of 1st degree murder who is not guilty, pled not guilty, was not proven guilty.. all the evidence points to his neighbor being guilty.. and the jury was lied to consistently throughout the trial. The only reason he was convicted is because he was forced to take enough medications to kill a horse.. and after 20 months after the crime decided to take his defense attorneys advice to go for an insanity plea and be put in a mental hospital for 2 or 3 years. To pursue an insanity plea, you can't DENY doing the crime - so they didn't have to prove him guilty. It looked to everyone including the media that he would be found insane. All 5 psychiatrists that interviewed the defendant testified that the defendant was insane (interestingly, the 5 defense psychiatrists were all working for the prosecution's psychiatrist who did not interview the defendant but said he was faking to get an insanity plea). That same prosecution psychiatrist was originally chosen by the defense attorney, but the defendant refused to talk to him and did not want to pursue an insanity plea at the time. At the very last second of the trial when it all was in the defendant's favor to get the insanity plea.. the defendant's own defense attorney told the jury to IGNORE the diagnoses of the five psychiatrists.. essentially dropping the insanity plea which was the entire defense at the last possible moment before the jury went out to deliberate! The father of the murder victim thanked the DEFENSE attorney right after the 1st degree murder conviction was issued, and said he wished the man could be EXECUTED! The father of the victim who was 60 years old at the time then had the balls to set up a website where people could send HIM money as "compensation" for his loss!
But I digress..
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I recently read a twitter comment that was quite poignant.
The person pointed out that dead people feel no pain, so executing criminals is actually doing the criminal a favor. (assuming they are guilty of a crime worth of being executed for).
I get that point of view.. it is giving them the easy way out. I don't think the pain of knowing you are about to die (no matter the criminal's bravado up to that point) is something to factor in, the terror/pain etc you'd feel knowing you were about to die would be a punishment but short lived.. but I think a - genuine non parole doing proper non cushy hard labour etc - life time sentence is more hell.. i'd think so anyway.
Plus there are more than a "few" cases of "oops" we got it wrong.. in fact in Australia part of the reason it was abolished was due to some very flimsy trials with some being shown as total messes of injustice.
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I recently read a twitter comment that was quite poignant.
The person pointed out that dead people feel no pain, so executing criminals is actually doing the criminal a favor. (assuming they are guilty of a crime worth of being executed for).
I get that point of view.. it is giving them the easy way out. I don't think the pain of knowing you are about to die (no matter the criminal's bravado up to that point) is something to factor in, the terror/pain etc you'd feel knowing you were about to die would be a punishment but short lived.. but I think a - genuine non parole doing proper non cushy hard labour etc - life time sentence is more hell.. i'd think so anyway.
Plus there are more than a "few" cases of "oops" we got it wrong.. in fact in Australia part of the reason it was abolished was due to some very flimsy trials with some being shown as total messes of injustice.
So few of the people on Death Row are ever executed that I doubt any of them seriously think they will be executed until the day of the execution. In fact, I think the opposite happens frequently.. the people on death row get tired of waiting and just WANT the execution to be done and over with to put an end to their suffering.
People can argue about the death penalty all they want, but when it comes right down to it, the judicial system and humans in general are not credible, competent, nor fair enough to be executing anybody.I thought you said you were RED? I see that you are GREEN! Like a little green sprout! HO HO HO!
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For this thread, let's just focus on the main point; do dead people feel pain.
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The reason only a few are put on death-row, is because until they get to a certain point in their appeals process, they are kept in "Gen Pop" if it's safe for them to be there.
Texas, for example, executes 5 to 6 times more men each year than they have death-row cells.
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For this thread, let's just focus on the main point; do dead people feel pain.
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The reason only a few are put on death-row, is because until they get to a certain point in their appeals process, they are kept in "Gen Pop" if it's safe for them to be there.
Texas, for example, executes 5 to 6 times more men each year than they have death-row cells.
Yes, but even being put on death row doesn't mean much. Only a small fraction of people on death row are ever executed.
"Take 2013, for example, the latest year for which BJS published capital punishment data. Of the 2,979 people on death row in that year, 39 were executed, and 31 died of natural causes, suicide or murder by another inmate, according to BJS numbers."
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Ok, you are using "death-row" as sentenced to death. I'm using it to mean the actual death-row.
I think Florida has the most women sentenced to death, but they rarely execute women.
Not all states with the death penalty are as eager to kill as Texas.
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Ok, you are using "death-row" as sentenced to death. I'm using it to mean the actual death-row.
I think Florida has the most women sentenced to death, but they rarely execute women.
Not all states with the death penalty are as eager to kill as Texas.
I'm not sure what you mean. I think you mean "death-row" as being inmates who have had their death warrants signed by the governor and a date has been set for their execution. I couldn't find any explanation of how they delineate between the two… and they don't define what "actual death-row" is. There are mountains of information out there.. but most of it is irrelevant, misleading, inaccurate, ambiguous, or false. That is why moonbats are able to monopolize the media.
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Death-row is a specific part of the prison that they are sent to when their execution date nears.
