Workers in Ivankas factories are beaten with high heel shoes!
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So you don't care about the people in China. I thought not. Look man, I've heard you guys make these arguments for almost two years now, and I'm just tired of having to go over it again and again. You're just wrong. You're not looking at all the facts, and you're not listening to both sides. What you are doing, is looking at the facts you want to look at, and listening to the mouthpieces that you want to hear. Anything that doesn't fit the narrative that you want to believe, goes in one ear and out the other. You are not capable of comprehending the information. You're just not. You act like the hundreds of millions he put into charity was unethical and fraudulent, and you base it off of this totally ridiculous nonsense that you heard from your fake news. You don't know what you're talking about. There is blatant evidence of Hillary's charity scams that you completely ignore, and there is no evidence of Trump's. There is only your imagination. The idea that he had multiple bankruptcies is stupid. He has over 500 companies and what 5? 5 went bankrupt? Do you know how many people failed 100 times before succeeding once? That's a stellar record. You just don't make any sense. Your perception of reality is distorted.
You have crammed so many howlers into one paragraph, it is swirling into a black hole of false claims about your hero, as well as assumptions about me of which you own no knowledge. But since you reference the next point specifically, I need you to produce, as verification, some detailed data on the "hundreds of millions he put into charity."
Yeah, I really need you to prove that claim, and not in generalities. To own that high ground for Trump, you better pony up some published, line-item research that supports that charitable claim, or I'm calling total BS on you. And I am talking HIS OWN money. Too bad you don't have his tax forms to rely on. (Well, those might be a tad disappointing.)
Good luck.
I was going to take the time to reply to Flozen, but since he has less than zero credibility, and nobody takes him seriously, I'm not going to waste my time.
I will mention one thing though. Trump has always been very charitable. Just the fact that he doesn't sit back in an office and revel in his money shows that he is charitable. He puts his resources to work, and doesn't mind losing money if the cause is worth it. Contrast that to someone like Bill Gates or Mark Fuckaburger who have sucked 10's of billions of $$$ out of everybody, and rather that do anything useful with their money, they do silly things like process sewage into drinking water in countries where they value the lives of animals more than they do human beings. Bill has a habit of talking big.. pledging money, and then pulling out leaving the agencies he was supposed to be helping in the lurch, and doing more harm than good. Fuckaburger never gives a dime to anybody unless he has a massive film crew with him to capture it. I was stunned to find out that Zuckerberg has a dozen full time employees who do nothing but maintain his own personal Facebook page. He's got the world's most expensive team of PR morons blowing smoke up his own ass. -
I'll spare readers the re-quoting of your message, Fred – it's right above.
In any case, congratulations on responding to the Trump/charity issue by offering the most empty, generic platitudes about his giving. No specific, major charitable causes identified (and thanks for not attempting to pawn off his loathsome, self-dealing Foundation); not a single clinic or school built; just hoarding his money and hiding all-but-one of his janky tax returns.
Political debate is built upon information and rebuttal, yet you offered nothing in Trump's defense for the recent media report I cited (and there were many) re: his children's cancer charity scamming. So, this all amounts to a total fail on you. And you can try to deflect with Zuck or Gates, but it makes your lack of Trump information even more obvious and a source for embarrassment -- if you were capable of that emotion.
As for the shade you threw on my credibility, Fred, you should know that's one area where you ought to tread lightly. Why? Because I've already pointed out your self-admission on another thread, related to your hacking an office computer system, stealing photos and personal info from the e-mail of a former coworker, and bringing them home. You're talking about credibility, but I'm talking about criminality. You wrote about the coworker, as quoted below, in
https://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=50094.0 (reply #17)
"He despised me, because I was the only one in the office that saw right through his façade. In fact, I knew many things about him, because I knew how to access other people's email accounts, etc. Here is a short list of what I found out about this guy. He was screwing his wife's best friend in the clubhouse of his son's little league baseball team that he coached. He regularly beat his wife. He had a fetish for elderly fat women. The older and fatter they were, the better. I'm sure that some of you don't believe me. Somewhere on one of 50 hard drives laying around here..."
So as far as credibility gaps and overall untrustworthiness, I would venture that it's more... like... you.
This thread has meandered away from its intended discussion of Ivanka's migrating sweatshops of horror, and I'm glad there was some useful discussion of these abuses further up the thread. So, play safely with your fireworks, if you're on this side of the pond. I am out of here.
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http://www.trump.com/charities/
You should be ashamed of yourself.
