Straight guys in gay porn; are the really straight?
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A lot of kinds of gay 4 pay videos like Czech Hunter talked with some "straight" guy and wait, I have seen this guy in other video!
I know exactly what you mean. Years ago, I watched a Straight College Men clip that excited the hell out of me. It was about a straight guy named Jon who was being paid to touch and be touched by another straight guy (Brian). Jon claimed that he'd never done anything with a guy before, and that he was only doing it for the money. I believed him, too, because Jon appeared very nervous and uncomfortable (major turn on 4 me), especially when Brian slid his hand down the front of Jon's underwear and started fiddling around with Jon's junk. While Brian did this to him, Jon's face kept changing between visible discomfort, confusion, panic, anger, and a strange "gotta-go-to-my-happy-place" blank stare. It excited the fuck out of me, and I must've blown my load to it about a hundred times.
…..then, years later, I saw him in Club 1821 Screen Test #1. There he was, naked in a chair, looking all nervous and claiming that no guy had ever touched him before. And when Brad Posey stroked Jon, Jon responded by making the very same faces he'd made in the 2SCM video. I spat at my television and screamed: "YOU LYING WHORE!!!!!!" (Okay, I didn't. I hate to clean. However, the rest of my story is true.
The point is: There are no innocent, fresh-faced, first (and only) time, straight guys in gay porn. It's all a mirage. The kind of straight guy we want to do gay porn.......would never DO gay porn. I wasted gigabites of bandwidth figuring this out.
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I think the Gay Porn industry is full of a mismatch of Gay for pay models especially in the US, excepting the extreme TIM productions with hardcore bareback which are obviously committed gay men. Years ago if a guy bottomed he was considered the "gay" guy but now with sexual attitudes changing so much, also in RL where many claim to be bisexual, that has changed. Paddy O'Brien is a good case in question who almost "reeked" of heterosexuality until the pay was good enough to try being a bottom which I enjoyed as that has often mirrored my own experienced with so called straight or married men hat one day wanted to try being a bottom. Chaosmen I think has a sexy group of of all orientations present with good Flip flops scenes. Sean Cody has a great set of models that soon to be all versatile but I would suspect all are bisexual gay there. Jess and Jarec (yes him that went to jail) are super hot and that new cub Manny. WE have to remember porn is entertainment and these guys do a show and some are fastasy shows with horrendous actin, particularly when a a guy with a high pitched feminine voice says "Don´t touch me I am straight". I think most of us can overlook that if the model is hot and the action as well.
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I think saying Straight is just a way to fulfill gay guys fantasies but I will write what I think may be the reasons why even straight guys may do gay or bi porn:
1. Quick money
2. Fun (trying some new territories) -
Only fags "do not believe" there are straight men in gay porn, actually straight men are most of them because they are handsome, strong, masculine and do anything when they really need money.
Gay man handsome, strong and masculine is one in a million.
Bel Ami, Sean Cody, MEN, Corbin Fisher… stars are most straight. No matter what you say, no matter how you force to deny... they are not in your circle, they only do it for money.
If you have money and know some straight guy who needs/wants money you'll see how easy it is... but I doubt you have any straight friend or the courage to do it... because you are fag.
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Straight guys do gay porn all the time. It's for the $$$$. I've known straight guys that have been strippers for gay clubs, worked at gay bars, and yes jumped into the gay pool because it was to make money. Granted, there are men who have sex with other men and identify as straight, which I suppose could be thing because there have been gay guys that sleep with women and they're still gay. (Ie. the ones that get married because they've been pressured into being "normal' and have children and either live a lie, or think they're doing what they should be doing.)
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Personally I prefer the guys in Gay Porn to be gay. Saves a lot of heartache when you find out that they have also done fish.
Also I find that Porn now has a fixed scenario, mostly because so many of the guys are straight. Fixed roles of top and Bottom. The Top rarely kisses the Bottom, if at all; there is one way cock-sucking; no 69ing, one way rimming, the top only eats ass; no 69 rimming; and the top fucks the bottom with no eye contact or kissing, or even dirty talk between the participants. The bottom usually cannot keep an erection, and when the guys have been making out before stripping, their dicks are usually not hard. Damn it, If I had been getting ready for sex, when my dick was exposed when my underwear was removed my dick would be pointing to the ceiling and dripping pre-cum like crazy.
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money is the first :cheers:
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Years ago, I had sex fairly regularly with women. I could perform very well, but repeated experiences proved to me that being straight wasnt really me. So in a way, it took sex with women to convince me without a doubt that I was gay - gay as in my emotional and physical orientation was entirely towards other men.
I suspect a lot of "gay-for-pay" performers are similar - they can perform adequately with guys, but doing so just proves to themselves without a doubt that they are straight. Rod Daily is a fine example of this - he performs very well in gay porn, but in real life he had a girlfriend - whom he got AIDs from.
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Money is the most important reason, but there are also many straight guys who are exhibitionists. The love to show themselve and they are looking for attention no matter whom. Money lowers their scruples of working in the gay adult industry.
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No man that has sex with men in porn for bisexual and gay men is heterosexual/straight.
This is just marketing based on homophobic/biphobia, and the bad stereotype that gay and bisexual men want heterosexual/straight men or want every man we see.
Now if it's a solo jack off scene where the man does not have sex with any men that's different, there are some heterosexual/straight men who have done this; but they don't do scenes where they have sex with men.
Contrary to the popular myth, you do not make a lot of money from being in porn.
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" Yuck it's making my skin itch just thinking of it."
Great gay guys are still very intolerant and biphobic towards bi guys .. funny how most of them are very crazy about their right and demand respect but act like guys from the kukuxklan when it comes to bi guys….
anyway.. I supposed the question from the OP was ask to get bonus point and no answer or maybe he's a troll..
That would be like believing things like " czech hunter" are "real"... sexuality is not this or that. it's a graduation from "total gay " to "total straight" which 2 extremes dont exist and are representation of an archetype. "straight guys" sucking dicks arent straight but to the least bi.
Now of course like the biphobic guy said, he doesnt feel like a bi even if he did a girl as a teen: it's not because you had sex with a guy when you were a teen ( or a girl) that you are bi. But here the subject is different : it's about an entertainment product therefore you can't compare to real private sexual life experimentation you might have as a teen with a production involving money. Guys on porn doing other guys are either gay and pretend to be str8 or bisexual and that's it.That's very true.
If when they have sex with men in porn they claim to be "straight" they are either in denial, closeted, or are just being marketed as this way as it will attract more queens who actually believe the myth that hetero/straight men have sex with men and do bisexual and gay porn.
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I don't think any of those guys are straight, I think porn industry just named this "Straight guys with gay guys" because then guys who fantasize about this will buy and watch such porn, I think that's all there is…
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I think all people are bisexual on some level, and these "straight" guys are just tapping into that side of them, even if they don't believe it themselves.
This is just my opinion.
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I forgot whether I've replied here or not, but I'll gladly share my opinion all over again.
IMHO, and this is subjective, eventhough a guy identify himself as straight, the moment he has sex with another guy and enjoys the experience so much he wants to do it again and again, then he's technically a bisexual. Nuff said.
I think all people are bisexual on some level, and these "straight" guys are just tapping into that side of them, even if they don't believe it themselves.
This is just my opinion.THIS! I couldn't agree more.
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If it is about the $$$$, and not a preference of theirs…...
Well, 'nuff said.
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You're all arguing over different definitions of what gay and straight are without acknowledging that there are different definitions.
Functional: if you can have sex with a man you are gay. If you can have sex with a woman you are straight. If you can have sex with both you are bisexual.
Attraction: If someone has sex with a man ony for a pay check but persues sex with women he's not gay. (One of my favorite performers from Sean Cody came out as bisexual and had an uncomfortable scene with a guy who was only there for the money and refused to try to have any fun.)
Identity: People get to name themselves. I've known Gay guys in monogamous heterosexual relationships. Straight guys in same-sex relationships. People who don't ever have sex who identify with gay or straight or bisexual. And people who do have sex who identify as Asexual.
Myself, I notice that guys can have sex with people or objects that they are not attracted to. I'm not going to call a guy who sticks a dildo up his butt a dildo-sexual no matter who many times he does it on camera.
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You're all arguing over different definitions of what gay and straight are without acknowledging that there are different definitions.
Functional: if you can have sex with a man you are gay. If you can have sex with a woman you are straight. If you can have sex with both you are bisexual.
Attraction: If someone has sex with a man ony for a pay check but persues sex with women he's not gay. (One of my favorite performers from Sean Cody came out as bisexual and had an uncomfortable scene with a guy who was only there for the money and refused to try to have any fun.)
Identity: People get to name themselves. I've known Gay guys in monogamous heterosexual relationships. Straight guys in same-sex relationships. People who don't ever have sex who identify with gay or straight or bisexual. And people who do have sex who identify as Asexual.
Myself, I notice that guys can have sex with people or objects that they are not attracted to. I'm not going to call a guy who sticks a dildo up his butt a dildo-sexual no matter who many times he does it on camera.
Yep, this is really good.
I think what most people are saying when they call themselves straight was more about 'straight in attraction', as in they leaned more towards women. Changing times does make some men willing to try sex with other men without labeling themselves as gay or bisexual– which is where MSM as a term is based on, I think.
This is both interesting and frustrating at the same time because it implies that being gay is a matter of culture / behavior / attitude, or at worst the old idea that being gay means you have to be a drag queen swishy femme, and I think this is the same root to so many femmephobia in gay community these days.
Not to mention the difference in romantic attraction and sexual attraction.
So I cannot help but wonder if the amount of the so-called gay4pay or straight guys doing gay sex would decrease if the labels gay / bisexual / pansexual / demisexual / queer are not as stigmatized as they still are these days.
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No man that has sex with men in porn for bisexual and gay men is heterosexual/straight.
This is just marketing based on homophobic/biphobia, and the bad stereotype that gay and bisexual men want heterosexual/straight men or want every man we see.
Now if it's a solo jack off scene where the man does not have sex with any men that's different, there are some heterosexual/straight men who have done this; but they don't do scenes where they have sex with men.
Contrary to the popular myth, you do not make a lot of money from being in porn.I can guess why people involved in the porn industry, don't make a lot of money..
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Just for clarity, are we talking the Gay-for-pay fellas?
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I think all people are bisexual on some level, and these "straight" guys are just tapping into that side of them, even if they don't believe it themselves.
This is just my opinion.
I'd like to know where my bi-sexuality is. Never come across my straight side at all, if it exists. Even when, and I do admit it, I watch straight porn, it's the guys I get off on. I have to say I prefer straight gang bangs a number of guys with one piece of fish.