Anti-ICE leftists wreck ICE vehicles, loot rifles, dox federal agents on livestream in Minneapolis

WikiDude

Riddle me this, batman:
People are busy, living their lives in Minneapolis - relatively peacefully. Very little public unrest, save for being unhappy with the strong-arm tactics of their own police force (ala George Floyd).

While the locals are still trying to tamp down that level of unrest, you add a new "evil" - ICE ... to rile them back up - one who comes in like Derek Chauvin & pals on PCP! And you expected exactly WHAT response?

I'm not excusing the violent response -neither the one to the
Floyd killing, nor this. Civil disobedience is one thing, even civil unrest is OK in my book - but when it gets to the point of lighting cars and buildings on fire, you're WAY over the line.

But again, I ask you: in the same city that went CRAZY after George Floyd, what kind of MORON expects these same people to "sit quietly and do what you're told."

The desire to "clean out" illegal aliens is not a bad one... our immigration policies in teh US are - and have been for decades, not just under Biden - extremely broken... but the tactics being used are NOT helping, and it's likely to cost the GOP both the House and Senate later this year.

In summary: you can spout off all you want about how bad these people are behaving - but these Nazi-SS-esque tactics are overkill, and are causing more problems than they're solving - and if you couldn't PREDICT this response from Americans, then you are just ignorant of US culture (or possibly completely stupid, and I'm not discounting BOTH possibly being true).

WD

PS: Talking about DOXing ICE agents - a leaked roster of new ICE recruits (new as-in the past year or so, not as-in the last few weeks) looks like a who's-who of Proud Boys - many of which have criminal backgrounds that should have excluded them from ANY Federal Law Enforcement position, much less ICE.
Not saying they can't possibly be good agents, but I am saying that it's adding fuel to the fire. More people will be hurt, if not killed... its NOT going to die down until ICE changes tactics.

blablarg18

@WikiDude said in Anti-ICE leftists wreck ICE vehicles, loot rifles, dox federal agents on livestream in Minneapolis:

Riddle me this, batman...MORON...you are just ignorant of US culture (or possibly completely stupid

Ugh, the inter-commenter name-calling begins

I won argument

Derek Chauvin

....is, btw, innocent of murder.

MUCH evidence was excluded, at his baboon-level show trial.

Medical report showed, George Floyd died of all that fentanyl & meth George Floyd took, & his congenital heart condition.
Floyd said "I can't breathe" already while standing up, like drama or telling officers to ignore him.
Other evidence woulda showed, Derek Chauvin followed training with that knee-on-neck, no way he intended to kill.

They shoulda called ambulance sooner. U could go with negligent-involuntary type manslaughter.

But murder? absurd

blablarg18

As to this - "its NOT going to die down until ICE changes tactics."

GOOD. More Antifa-terrorist arrests. Very good!!
ICE has no prob, in normal USA states. Probs r unique to "Sanctuary State".

In normal USA State, ICE works with local courts, picks up criminal migrants at courthouse as they process thru criminal system, no probs.

But "Sanctuary State" means, State has decided to negate USA immigration law, thus rebel against USA & protect worst criminal migrants.

ONLY in "Sanctuary State" are ICE raids normal.

ICE picks up many more horrific criminals, at courthouses of normal USA States. Tens of thousands.

WikiDude

@blablarg18 said in Anti-ICE leftists wreck ICE vehicles, loot rifles, dox federal agents on livestream in Minneapolis:

@WikiDude said in Anti-ICE leftists wreck ICE vehicles, loot rifles, dox federal agents on livestream in Minneapolis:
Riddle me this, batman...MORON...you are just ignorant of US culture (or possibly completely stupid
Ugh, the inter-commenter name-calling begins

You incorrectly assume I'm trying to have or start an argument. I was simply making a factual observation: if the expectation of this kind of militaristic ATTACK in US Cities was that US citizens would just lay down "and take it" - then you're a moron!

Not unlike expecting to take a rocket to the moon & not packing enough food, assuming you'll just load up on cheese while you're there!

I won argument

OK - you win. I let my 3 year old grandson win at games too... a very similar situation, wouldn't you agree?

Derek Chauvin

....is, btw, innocent of murder.

MUCH evidence was excluded, at his baboon-level show trial.

Medical report showed, George Floyd died of all that fentanyl & meth George Floyd took, & his congenital heart condition.

Floyd said "I can't breathe" already while standing up, like drama or telling officers to ignore him.

Other evidence woulda showed, Derek Chauvin followed training with that knee-on-neck, no way he intended to kill.

They shoulda called ambulance sooner. U could go with negligent-involuntary type manslaughter.

But murder? absurd

I didn't comment on Derek Chauvin's crimes - a jury made a determination, and barring some legal misdoings that get him a new trial, he's been found guilty. Wouldn't be the first innocent found guilty, nor would he be the last. But, for now, the FACT is he's been found guilty of murder. My own opinion (as with yours) is irrelevant to his case.

But also, its irrelevant to my point: the citizens of Minneapolis RIOTED in the streets after that level of police violence. If you expected them to just sit back and accept an escalation - especially to the level ICE is operation at these days - then you're just plain stupid! ("Read the room")

You should also read the part where I said that the GOAL of deporting illegals is 100% spot on... it's not the goal that's got Minnesota (and 1/2 the rest of the country) protesting ICE - it's the TACTICS! Even my new hometown in western NC has had ICE protests!

This is America - and these people are ARMED! On both sides!

The only part of this that wasn't predictable is that more people haven't been killed already (again - on both sides). This isn't Russia or Iran or North Korea - where the populace is going to be forced - even by litary might - into compliance!

This is why the GOP is going to suffer so badly in Nov. I fear it'll be catastrophic and may take a long time for us to recover. (Yes, I'm a GOP voter, even if I despise the authoritarian and self-aggrandizing of our POTUS).

WD