Libs in 2024 still think they fight Putin - unbelievable
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Russia took Crimea 2014 under OBAMA-BIDEN (D).
Russia took Ukraine 2022 under BIDEN-HARRIS (D). (which many think is Obama 3)
What happens in Ukraine now is: Mere slaughter, except, it lines pockets of weapons companies & their politicians - ON BOTH SIDES.
War is a racket, & libs have Inner Party - Outer Party hierarchy.
People who know stuff, Lib Inner Party, tell Lib Outer Party what to think & say in daily Two Minutes' Hate.
If Lib Inner Party isn't allied to Putin, in some fashion....... it may be..... but at very least, Lib Inner Party is allied to weapons companies - OF BOTH SIDES.
Meanwhile, Lib Outer Party is retarded.
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Fake or real? Going around today.
"Ukrainian Border Control catch 34 Men fleeing the Zelensky Regime & its mandatory conscription into the Front Line Meat Grinder. Ukrainians know it means certain death & no longer wish to participate in the US Deep State proxy war with Russia"
vid - https://twitter.com/i/status/1766117287134683283
screenshot:
@jaroonn You volunteered, correct? How u doin?
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"The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance...The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory...but to keep the very structure of society intact.”
Best description of Russia-Ukraine war ever.......... from George Orwell.
Remember, UK-USA-NATO vetoed peace deal of April 2022.
"War is the health of the State. It automatically sets in motion throughout society those irresistible forces for uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the Government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense." - Randolph Bourne saying it 30 years ahead of Orwell.
"Follow the money" - shortest way to say it.
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@blablarg18 There are a lot of Russian performers on Chaturbate. They all seem very nice.
I found one who is Ukrainian, and I tried to be nice to him.
I basically told him that if Trump wins, the war in Ukraine will end in weeks if not sooner. The guy got extremely angry. -
@blablarg18 I can't think of any war in US history that was not instigated by democrats. Democrats love war, because it allows them to pervert reality and sieze more power and make people more dependant upon government.
Even the Gulf Wars were caused by Bill Clinton kicking the muslim hornets nest.
When Republicans employ military power, they have a goal, and accomplish it very quickly. -
Why aren't the liberals screeching about the sexism of male only conscription?
They should be demanding gender equality and the total defense of Ukraine at any cost.
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@raphjd not just conscription.. but everytime there is a risk of facing battle - females in the military suddenly get pregnant. amazing.
peacetime parasites
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@blablarg18 The was in Ukraine is only a liberal vs conservative issue in the minds of the American far-right. There are many conservatives in the US and even more (most) in Europe who are intelligent enough to see what is really happening. Your people's need to politicize and polarize everything is beyond absurd.
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@jaroonn said in Libs in 2024 still think they fight Putin - unbelievable:
Your people's need to politicize and polarize everything is beyond absurd.
LOL
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@raphjd indeed
he's Soooooooo far beyond pot - kettle - black
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@blablarg18 said in Libs in 2024 still think they fight Putin - unbelievable:
he's Soooooooo far beyond pot - kettle - black
You do realize that is an admission of guilt, right? lol
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@jaroonn You sound vaxxed
Point of pot - kettle - black, is never that kettle is black -for real-, but only that desperate retarded pot - ie. you - needs self-awareness before making shit up.
"Glass houses" is another - whether the stone-throwing is deserved or not, is always different question.
HAHAHAHAHahahahahaha
only you are dumb enough to need basic shit explained
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@blablarg18 Ok. So I am an English professor, and I'm guessing (I hope) that English is not your first language. But don't take my word for it:
From the Oxford Dictionary:
"the pot calling the kettle black"
used to convey that the criticisms a person is aiming at someone else could equally well apply to themselves.
"the Council is complaining that the post office is slow at communication—talk about pot calling the kettle black!"Enjoy that clown mask. It suits you to a tee.
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"could" & "person aiming" - Do I have to explain subjunctive mood to you?
Or concept of subjectivity (person's view not need to be true - separate question)?
It's right there.
It's RIGHT. THERE.
OMG @jaroonn you are so so retarded!!!
That you think u have English degree, ADDS. TO. HILARITY.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahahhahahahah
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@blablarg18
Please do explain the subjunctive to us since you have it confused with modals of probability.Since you unable to understand English grammar, let's go with Cambridge.
the pot calling the kettle black
idiom
something you say that means people should not criticize someone else for a fault that they have themselves.You are an idiot. Truly. I've failed students smarter than you.
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@jaroonn You do realize that is an admission of guilt, right? lol
Switching definitions - since you blew it so badly, with first. Covered yourself in disgrace.
AND, still same problem there - "People criticize" & "you say" - ie. subjectivity - one of literature's most basic ideas - RIGHT. THERE.
If you do have an English degree, you need $$ back
RETARD.
& meanwhile you still support
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Azov Nazis
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weapons companies
while failing to show up yourself, for what you preach
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@blablarg18 said in Libs in 2024 still think they fight Putin - unbelievable:
Switching definitions - since you blew it so badly, with first
I didn't change the definition. I just chose one that I thought, given your linguistic limitations, would be easier for you to understand.
Let me try this: if one insults another, and he/she has the same fault, that is the pot calling the kettle black because they are both black. If one insults another and they are not both "black," that is just an insult. And there is no need for an idiom.
Capisce?
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@jaroonn said in Libs in 2024 still think they fight Putin - unbelievable:
Ok. So I am an English professor
I didn't realize that "English professor" was the name given to "expert in everything".
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@raphjd said in Libs in 2024 still think they fight Putin - unbelievable:
I didn't realize that "English professor" was the name given to "expert in everything"
It doesn't. That is why I try not to argue about things I do not know or care about. Unlike your buddy blabla who needs to learn that it is better to remain silent and appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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@blablarg18
To look at Ukraine, Russia, and Putin through the lens of Dems vs Republicans or Libs vs Conservatives is ridiculous.Russia took BACK Crimea, which (along with the Donbas and and Eastern Ukraine) was part of RUSSIA until the Soviet Era (Lenin was concerned about Russian chauvinism, so Ukraine's administrative borders were expanded). Russia's only warm-water naval base is in Crimea, and the idea of Russia letting a US-allied Ukraine control Crimea is similar to the USA letting China take Hawaii or Guam.
The war in Ukraine didn't start a year and a half ago. It started in 2014, after Democratic and Republican senators, bipartisan neocon Victoria Nulan, and staff from the (CIA/State Dept cutout ) Natl Endowment for Democracy showed up to what had been a peaceful protest against a democratically elected president with less than a year left in his term. The US meets up with actual Hitler loving and Jew hating nazis and ultranationalist militants and gets them to do what fascists do, and create chaos and violence that concludes with a coup where the Nazis and ultranationalists have taken most of the positions of power. After they passed laws banning Russian-speaking children from being taught in their native language, outlaw many pro-Russian and socialist/communist political parties, and takes away Crimea's special autonomous status, people in Eastern Ukraine declare independence. So Kiev lets Azov
Bat (Nazi paramilitary group) shoot missles at Eastern Ukraine. Putin then sends arms to the separatists. Eastern Ukraine has been a war zone for ten years.Now, if Trump had won re-election Putin might not have invaded Ukraine. But this isn't because Trump is a Putin puppet or because Republican foreign policy is superior to Democratic policy. I would be because Trump didn't include many of the key neocon and regime-change goons in his administration.
I do agree that there is a large hardcore Dem base, that has totally embraced Bill Kristol, George Bush, the CIA, FBI, and pretty much anyone or anything that is anti-Trump. And the Dem Party is more hawkish now than the Republican Party. Even Senator Barbara Lee voted to send weapons to Ukraine. In California's all party primary, Adam Schiff (financed by US weapons makers) received more votes than (rhetorically) populist Katie Porter and (previously) anti-war Barbara Lee combined.
If you are against arming Ukraine or meddling in their affairs, your views are represented by a handful of Republicans in Washington.
But if you are against arming and giving aid to Israel, you certainly won't find any Republicans who agree with you. And that is because a large minority of the base believe the Bible should determine our Middle Eastern foreign policy.And on both Ukraine and Israel/Palestine, the US and Europe are isolated from the rest of the world. Brazil, most of South and Central America, Africa, China, India, most of Asia, Russia, Mexico--most of the world--have formal diplomatic relations with Palestine, believe Israel is illegally occupying the
West Bank and Gaza (if not all of Israel-Palestine), and abstained or voted "no" to condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine in a UN General Assembly vote.I think both "libs" and conservatives should stop worrying about the other party, and take a step back and look at their own party bullshit. Both parties serve overlapping corporate interests, and party loyalty is much more about self-dealing and personal power than any ideological belief. Both parties use race, gender, and sociocultural issues in their rhetoric to fire up their bases, while doing very little policy wise. And if you thought Republicans were successful with their long game with the Supreme Court and abortion, then you missed the bipartisan long game to pack the court with pro-corporate, pro-war, pro-banks, anti-worker judges without anyone noticing because confirmation hearings are now culture-war theater (distraction, spectacle, scandal).
When it comes to policy (legislation, administrative rules, foreign policy) is see very little difference between Dems and Republicans--at least on most the major issues affecting people's material lives. The only differences are how many bombs to drop on poor countries, how big should the tax cuts for the wealthy be, how big should we let monopolies grow, how big should the big banks get,how many democratically elected governments should we undermine.
