Owner of TheGuySite Murdered
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So it seems in the past week the owner of TheGuySite was murdered by one of his models "Ludwig" (who from what I can work out lived with him). Seems the model got charged in the past few days... Been following the story today, some links below for those who want the background...
The Breaking of the News:
https://str8upgayporn.com/exclusive-william-futral-owner-of-gay-porn-studio-theguysite-com-murdered-in-florida/&
https://avn.com/business/articles/gay/theguysite-com-owner-william-futral-murdered-918439.html
The Followup charge of the model:
https://str8upgayporn.com/exclusive-theguysite-gay-porn-star-richard-lam-a-k-a-ludvig-arrested-in-florida-following-murder-of-studio-owner/From what I have read elsewhere he was a lone wolf producer and so I assume the site will go down in time as the bills for hosting ect don't get paid... Sad news I always enjoyed that site too...
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Can't wait for James Franco to star in a biopic about this
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Here is the killer. One of his own models Richard Lam aka "Ludvig".
https://theguysite.com/tour/models/ludvig.htmlThat site is pretty much all beefy, muscular bears.
Richard Lam is 28, and had assault charges in 2021 for strangulation in Orange County, Florida.
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@ianfontinell said in Owner of TheGuySite Murdered:
Can't wait for James Franco to star in a biopic about this
Me too
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@lololulu19 Do you know if the strangulation charge is against the same victim or not?
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This reminds me of what happened to the owner of the RudeJam website in 2009 that featured Jamaican men and their large cocks, presumedly murdered by one of his models, but the killer was never caught.
At one time, I considered starting a website of my own featuring handsome muscular men of all varieties. I decided against it when I noticed how often media from most gay sites winds up on torrent sites before owners can even see much of a return on their productions. That, and the whole getting murdered by your models thing.
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@RectalTemp What is piracy other than free publicity?? I encourage you to go on and open your independent studio and try your best to be featured on GT's homepage!
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@ianfontinell said in Owner of TheGuySite Murdered:
@RectalTemp I encourage you to go on and open your independent studio...
While the encouragement is appreciated, my dreams of operating a gay porn website were mostly the aspirations of a much younger man. I assume the models would want to be paid for their work, and with how the consumption of porn has evolved over the years, I don't see how there's any money to be made by a producer through traditional websites as we have known them.
It was a hot idea though, for a time.
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Damn, damn damn. This story is being kinda hushed about all over LGBTQ sex online media. Just found out about this today. Shit. I wondered why the theguysite went down, when I was browsing it a few weeks ago (I kinda liked the beefy guys he featured on there and was curious). I just figured maybe they were having hosting issues, or I don't know what.
I mean, I don't want to say history repeats itself, no. But I do remember similar situations/occurrences in the gay porn world. There was a guy who ran a similar site featuring DL guys doing Gay porn, and was killed by one of the guys on the site, and the case is still ongoing, and yeah.
I know handful of years ago, there were rumors that Buddy (he was the camereman/sitemaster/owner) who did Workinmenbuddies/Hobofoot/Workin Men Movies/Workin Men XXX) was accosted by one of the guys he filmed. But it turns out that I believe he's still living, but he ended up having health problems/he had a really bad stroke, which is why workinmenxxx and it's related projects/series ended, and the site was bought by another company.
But man. I always thought theguysite camerman was kinda creepy, just his voice/how he was kinda demeaning to the guys, and how yeah he would ocassionally feature household names in the gay porn world, but 99 percent of tgs guys were guys that you didn't see, and weren't gonna see in other realms of gay porn; and he just used his powers of persuasion to get these guys to model for him. etc. But just his tone to them was kinda interesting etc. "Strip right now", "Take your clothes off", "Get in the shower" "Take off your shirt" "Open those jeans so I can see your balls" etc. But man, I didn't want this to happen to him. Smh.
He was doing tgs for shit, like close to damn near 20 years believe it or not smh. Mostly solo/jerk off/masturbation scenes, but he has had some group scenes as well. He has probably had over a thousand guys on there, in the bear/otter/scruffy/guy next door/average guys/unconventional guys you never, if rarely ever see in gay male porn etc. category. So I figured he had it made/he had a system. etc.
A lot of the guys were from the South Florida area, (they would introduce themselves at the start of every clip) etc. so things are adding up.
I don't know the circumstances, as I don't know what happened, and still finding more sites that are talking about this, as I'm super late as this story came out earlier this year, and just now hearing about this. As far as updates, other than the guy pleading Not Guilty, and in a very creepy/ironic/unnerving way, it seems his lawyer is none other than the same guy who repped George Zimmerman. Oh dear. Smh.
RIP to the site owner of tgs, and I guess that's that, and man. RIP to him.
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@Domosuke said in Owner of TheGuySite Murdered:
I always thought theguysite camerman was kinda creepy, just his voice/how he was kinda demeaning to the guys... But just his tone to them was kinda interesting etc.
I can often be hyper-sensetive to micro-aggressions, but I never got that impression from the owner/cameraman of TheGuySite.
It always seemed to me like he was just being very clear and concise with his directions to the models, to get the shots he was looking for, and I assumed that the parts we heard him speak on camera came after what I presumed would have been friendlier banter between the men off camera.
Then aside from that, anything I've read from some of the people who actually knew him all said he was really low-key, mellow, and soft-spoken. But, who knows? I suspect jealousy probably played a major part in his murder. And of course, money often seems to be involved somehow.
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@RectalTemp said in Owner of TheGuySite Murdered:
I can often be hyper-sensetive to micro-aggressions, but I never got that impression from the owner/cameraman of TheGuySite.
It always seemed to me like he was just being very clear and concise with his directions to the models, to get the shots he was looking for, and I assumed that the parts we heard him speak on camera came after what I presumed would have been friendlier banter between the men off camera.
Then aside from that, anything I've read from some of the people who actually knew him all said he was really low-key, mellow, and soft-spoken. But, who knows? I suspect jealousy probably played a major part in his murder. And of course, money often seems to be involved somehow.I agree with you. The cameraman/owner barked out directions as to how he wanted the models to pose for the cameras, both still and video. Was always respectful. Most people don't know how to pose to get the best angles so clear instructions helped get the best results in the shortest amount of time.
Had a couple sex positive exhibitionistic buddies pose for TGS over the years and they loved the experience They were positive exhibitionists. The biggest demand the owner would give models is to not shave their pubic hair for the next video shoot since the main demographic of the viewers tended to like body and facial hair (myself included).
Anybody know how many videos were produced? Anybody have the whole collection? TGS will be sadly missed.
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@hhh415 The one most infamous for incessantly barking orders during porn shoots is ChiChi Larue aka Larry David Paciotti, who lost nearly 200 pounds.
He used to look like a fatter version of Divine.
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I would not want to be a porn producer whose "production company" consisted of a few lights, a camera, and myself. At the very least some legal infrastructure and background checking is essential.
We know that one of the evils of under-age porn is the regret, guilt, and lasting dysphoria that models have as they get older. The same is true for 18+, or even 30+ guys. I wouldn't want these guys pissed off at me, especially if they are muscular and/or have troubled pasts. The TGS owner is one of a series of "producers" who met untimely ends--remember the guy who did the "Swell80" videos? Don't expect any new productions from him.
I would be concerned for the guy who made the Club1821 series some years back. He took nude videos of 20ish guys, saying they were audition tapes for a modeling career. That might have been part of the ruse, although some of the guys seemed too clueless to be in on that.
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@eobox91103 Nobody comes close to being as much of an exploitative, douchebag as ChiChi Larue. When Larry had his "Live and Raw" streaming video service, he was famous for being extremely cheap and abusive to the performers, and when they quit working for him, Larry would dox them and insult them on the site.
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The 2 producers with the best reputation was/are Brian Kocis aka Brian Phillips of Cobra and George Duroy of Bel AMi.
Chi Chi has the reputation of the meanest to work for.
I've never met any of them, so I don't have any personal experience. It's what I see in the internet from interviews and whatnot..
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@raphjd I think William HIggins was a nice guy.. despite the rumors involving Morgan's "accident"
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Almost a year to this incident, there are zero updates. Odd. But I just wanted to leave my theory as to what happened, as in my last post, I kinda just explained how I just found out about the news/shocked. Also being that the investigation or any updates or lack thereof is being publicized, I guess it's time to Unsolved Mysteries everything, and theorize etc.
Although I was unable to find any confirmed information on the guysite owner. Other than his legal/real name, no social media, not even his pictures, other than some pictures pop up, but I can't confirm/don't think it's him. I do know (or at least I believe, as maybe the cameraman was a seperate guy but I doubt?) he's the camerman as well, and when you look at the TGS clips, you could hear his voice/him interviewing/interacting with the tgs guys/and acting as director telling him how he wants his content done etc. So yeah.
What I believe, being that I was an on again/off again subscriber of the theguysite, is that the owner for whatever reason, favored/had a really strange bias towards "Ludwig" which he had his reasons, and those reasons we will never know as the site operator is sadly no longer with us.
But I do know, that theguysite since like 2004, was living up to it's name as "a guy site", to where he just featured normal/guy next door/dad bod/beer drinking dorky normal guys. He probably mainly recruited possibly drunk/under the influence straight guys. Made them sign a contract saying that he's gonna post pictures of them modelling on a pay per view site and yeah. (Although he has removed hundreds of guys [usually guys who were on the site in earlier/older years] off the site, most likely due to request of the guys no longer wanting to be on there, and he obliged and honored that.) It was a done deal, and you never saw that guy again, and rinse and repeat x1000 of these straight guys who were drunk/the site owner had damn good persuasion skills/were exhibitionists/had no idea what they were doing or getting into/dared by their girlfriends to go in a hotel room and do a solo session. Bob's your uncle, that was it. No emotional strings attached.
But it wasn't until the site got really popular, and people got bored of him having thousands of dad bod/average/standing outside a bar haggard looking straight guys jerk off in a motel room, that he started to change his content, and he now started to feature like overtly conventional appearing muscle hunks, and there were more recurring guys, and also actual sex content, group scenes, anal, action scenes etc. and even got some famous names/award winning gay porn stars on his site, which didn't hurt, and was good for his site.
During this new phase/rebranding, one of the models as I said the site owner was biased to, was "Ludwig", to where Ludwig was featured in way more scenes/content/appeared on the site at a more exorbitant rate, compared to the other guys.
Now this is where theories come in. It's also possible some of these theories could intertwine as well. So yeah.
Theory 1:Ludwig was not being properly paid. Ludwig confronted the site owner at his home, and whatever they argued/griped about, lead to what happened, happening. Doesn't mean the guy had to die/be murdered, but yeah.
Theory 2:(this theory seems to be rumored online more), Ludwig was having financial issues, and the tgs sitemaster offered to let him stay with him. Ludwig probably only saw the victim as a friend/buddy, and maybe he tried to do something sexual to him, and Ludwig snapped, and "gay panic" mode possible. Leading to what happened to have happened.
Theory 3:Ludwig regretted doing pictures/videos for tgs, and asked the siteowner to take down anything with him on it. There was a argument related to this, and what happened, ended up happening.
So I am slightly upset there have been zero new updates, or any new motions.
However. Ludwig, very gross and sickening to say, has a damn good laywer (Mark O'Hara/Zimmerman laywer) so his counsel is good, but it doesn't excuse what happened, and we have zero information or new reports.
But I feel if this goes to jury trial, anything could happen.
If a plea bargain is made, or if the case goes forward, if he pleads any self defense Florida statues, it could also make things complicated.
I really wish we could be updated in this case, but we have nothing, and that's the American legal system for ya. Smh. But the only people who know the true story as to what happened is theguysite owner, who is no longer here, and Ludwig so yeah.
Again, it's a shame theguysite owner is dead, and this is just an interesting and unfortunate case all around. But hopefully we do get more pieces of this story. Really unfortunate.
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UPDATE/EDIT:So apparently LPSG (which I hate this fucking forum so much. I guess it's a gay porn gossip site? I know of it, and yeah smh.) this entire time had some secret information. I swore I googled until the cows came home, and couldn't find this. Next court/trial docket is March 5, which is a few days from now.
So Ludwig apparently is skipping court dates (although his counsel is successfully filing motions for this for whatever reason) and it turns out he recently had a felony bench warrant for assaulting a roommate a week before this all happened, so due to that, he was transferred to another facility.
It is looking like his lawyers are trying to get "Ludwig" out on bond in the interim, and meanwhile before trial starts, on ankle monitor/gps tether. But there are other reports saying the incident wasn't premeditated, and they are talking with the district attorney to alter details about the case.
All in all, we still don't have much answers, other than a nice court update for March 5th. This entire time, you can argue which no news is good news. But it's something, and we shall see, with this case.
