Happy Pride!
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@raphjd I am not confused about different types of viruses and different immuno-responses. You are confusing what virologist were saying as opposed to what trolls, pundits and politicians on both sides were. I don't listen to the latter.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/conversations/understanding-vacc-work.html
As I stated before, Americans seem to have decided to politicize everything. There are no rational people in charge, and there is no hope for meaningful progress until there are. I am very pessimistic.
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I'm guessing that you never saw any of the videos of Fauci and the then head of the CDC saying that getting the covid vaxx will prevent you from catching and spreading the virus.
The Mayo Clinic even said that getting the covid vaxx will prevent you from getting or spreading the covid virus. Many others said the same thing.
All of these people/groups later changed their claims. Most of them edited their claims by stealth.
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@raphjd No. I never saw any of those because they don't exist. Listen to what Fauci said, not what Hannity and Tucker said he said.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-mRNA-vaccine-fauci-387418337013
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What does that link have to do with what I said?
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@raphjd Did you read it? It talks about what Fauci actually said as opposed to what others claimed he said.
I really have nothing more to say beyond that.
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The paper referenced is from Nov 2022. That's nearly 3 years for them to change their tune.
It seems as though you are trying to claim that I'm saying that the vaccines do not work. I never said that. I said that the covid vaxx do not prevent catching and spreading the virus, as originally claimed.
Now stop attacking the strawman and argue what I actually said.
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@raphjd said in Happy Pride!:
The paper referenced is from Nov 2022. That's nearly 3 years for them to change their tune.
Changed their tune? I never heard Fauci or any other scientist say that the vaccine would definitely stop the spread of or prevent Covid, or any other kind of corona virus. In fact, they said the opposite because corona viruses are like influenza viruses; they can be mitigated not eliminated. I heard others say it, or claimed it had been said. I heard anti-vaxxers talk about "heard immunity" which also doesn't work and is why we have flu "seasons." I personally argued with people who were saying all kinds of crazy shit. But Fauci...no. If I'm wrong, just show me where he said it.
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Are you claiming that herd-immuniy was only mentioned by anti-vaxxers?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fauci-covid-omicron-variant-herd-immunity-vaccine-infection/
"Population immunity" is the same as herd immunity.
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@raphjd Edited clips from Fox Nooz? You've got be joking.
I meant that anti-vaxxers were saying the vaccine wasn't necessary because herd immunity would kick in. Fauci and others were saying it MIGHT be achievable, but in the meantime, get vaccinated to protect yourself from serious infections. That's all.
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The anti-vaxxers were correct that natural immunity (immunity from covid infection) was just as good, if not better, that the vaxx.
We were told that they were trying to get us to herd immunity levels.
We also have to remember that Fauci and Co constantly flip-flopped on their claims.
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@jaroonn Translating to English, from Bullshit your mother tongue - "How dare you cite the John Money example! Yes it exposes how awful 'Trans science' gets! Stop being effective!"
PS. As to original LGBTQaw49dsiiPP graphic - Every honest person knows at least one P in reality is MAP / Pedophiles. I'm amazed u'd promote it.
dramatic decrease in hospitalizations and deaths after people started getting vaccinated
No that was the Omicron lineages late 2021 into 2022.
The covid vaxx did INCREASE hospitalizations & deaths - for carditis, blood clots, autoimmune disorders....especially among healthy young people who never needed vaxx as u can see here: https://community.gaytorrent.ru/topic/62322/report-says-israel-had-no-covid-deaths-for-normal-people-under-50
And it was never "a lie by the left." Even Fox News had vaccine mandates
I wish you could hear yourself - how retarded you sound.
You think Fox isn't as much funded & made stupid by Big Pharma as any of them? (Also NYC based, subject to NYC mandates.)
You can take anything 'Fox' and cram it up your crusty wrinkled vagina.
So many of you idiot libs think "I are super smart! Non-libs must all be conservatives love business Fox & Jesus! Must obey when I ever mention! How smart me!"
It never works - yet you keep at it.
Science shows (even long before covid) that vaccines never, ever prevent catching and spreading viruses.
Yes if you meant RNA virus. (HIV)
DNA virus can be more stable but RNA virus evolves too much & too fast, in response to vaccination. Always will be immune escape & more people u vaxx, the more & faster vaxx escape is. & covid like HIV is RNA virus.
Immunology 101, they knew it from HIV experience, yet pushed garbage covid vaxx into general population anyway, causing thousands (nationally) or millions (worldwide) of needless deaths in younger people.
Crime against humanity, should be trials & executions for it.
Starting with Fauci. Prosecute & execute Fauci first.
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Highlight reel of Fauci, Rachel Maddow, Biden etc. lying that vaxx "stops" infection or at least make it "very very low risk" for spread.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1582364632614068226
Yes @jaroonn - Fauci, Biden under Fauci's advice, & the rest 100% said those lies.
Fauci, speaking of covid:
"When people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they're not going to get infected."
U absolute dunce.
We can see it with our own eyes.
He said it. Many times.
Bonus - Highlight reel of libs THIRSTING for discrimination & hate against the unvaxxed:
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1657021799652024324
Happy Pride!
Bonus 2 -
https://twitter.com/Brick_Suit/status/1637709505193709571
Fauci & Bowser on a door to door jab campaign. She tells voter "If you don't get vaxxed, YOU gonna let this virus continue..." - as Fauci looks on approving.
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@blablarg18 said in Happy Pride!:
I wish you could hear yourself - how retarded you sound.
You can take anything 'Fox' and cram it up your crusty wrinkled vagina.
I am not going to bother responding to you anymore. You are vile and rude and your hatred is truly disturbing. You may think your playground insults win you arguments, but they don't. Childish insults are the last resort of someone who's lost the argument.
But I try to understand you because it's not your fault.
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