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      yeahyeahoh last edited by

      Was the COVID-19 controlled in your country? Do you think that the Chinese government released the virus on purpose?

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        raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

        I doubt it was intentional but they did lie about it, as did the WHO.

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          andergarcia last edited by

          In the "Topic" line, maybe you should add "government" to "Chinese" because someone may understand that you are talking about Chinese people and not the government… and it may sound a bit racist...

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            yeahyeahoh last edited by

            That's true, the COVID-19 makes the relationship between China and other countries intenser, I'm not sure if China will disintegrate like the Soviet Union.

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              yeahyeahoh last edited by

              @andergarcia:

              In the "Topic" line, maybe you should add "government" to "Chinese" because someone may understand that you are talking about Chinese people and not the government… and it may sound a bit racist...

              You're right, I should change it. But you're not answering the question.

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                andergarcia last edited by

                I don't think the Chinese government released the virus on purpose. What I do think is that they didn't know how to control it, once the virus was released. And that happened in most of the countries in the world: no government could imagine (I want to think so) how terrible the pandemic was going to be.

                Europe, for example, was not ready for this situation and didn't think it was going to be so dramatic. My country, neither. And Spain has been one of the European countries with more cases and more deaths due to the covid-19.

                And I do not think that Europe or my country didn't "want" to control the pandemic on purpose.

                @yeahyeahoh:

                Was the COVID-19 controlled in your country? Do you think that the Chinese government released the virus on purpose?

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                  yeahyeahoh last edited by

                  @andergarcia:

                  I don't think the Chinese government released the virus on purpose. What I do think is that they didn't know how to control it, once the virus was released. And that happened in most of the countries in the world: no government could imagine (I want to think so) how terrible the pandemic was going to be.

                  Europe, for example, was not ready for this situation and didn't think it was going to be so dramatic. My country, neither. And Spain has been one of the European countries with more cases and more deaths due to the covid-19.

                  And I do not think that Europe or my country didn't "want" to control the pandemic on purpose.

                  I'm not saying China didn't want to control the virus on purpose, I'm saying they wanted the virus to spread around the world on purpose. Maybe you can't imagine how evil the Chinese government is. Though I'm not sure, it's very possible that Chinese government released the virus which they won't admit of course because of the trade war with the US. Now Americans don't have enough energy to fight with China, but that won't take much time for the US to recover. I'm wondering if China will disintegrate like the Soviet Union in the future.

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                    heartrick last edited by

                    @yeahyeahoh:

                    @andergarcia:

                    I don't think the Chinese government released the virus on purpose. What I do think is that they didn't know how to control it, once the virus was released. And that happened in most of the countries in the world: no government could imagine (I want to think so) how terrible the pandemic was going to be.

                    Europe, for example, was not ready for this situation and didn't think it was going to be so dramatic. My country, neither. And Spain has been one of the European countries with more cases and more deaths due to the covid-19.

                    And I do not think that Europe or my country didn't "want" to control the pandemic on purpose.

                    I'm not saying China didn't want to control the virus on purpose, I'm saying they wanted the virus to spread around the world on purpose. Maybe you can't imagine how evil the Chinese government is. Though I'm not sure, it's very possible that Chinese government released the virus which they won't admit of course because of the trade war with the US. Now Americans don't have enough energy to fight with China, but that won't take much time for the US to recover. I'm wondering if China will disintegrate like the Soviet Union in the future.

                    How stupid is it to actually think that China want other countries to have this virus, you know when other countries are suffering from the Covid19, China's economy is also going to be worse OK?

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                      yeahyeahoh last edited by

                      @heartrick:

                      @yeahyeahoh:

                      @andergarcia:

                      I don't think the Chinese government released the virus on purpose. What I do think is that they didn't know how to control it, once the virus was released. And that happened in most of the countries in the world: no government could imagine (I want to think so) how terrible the pandemic was going to be.

                      Europe, for example, was not ready for this situation and didn't think it was going to be so dramatic. My country, neither. And Spain has been one of the European countries with more cases and more deaths due to the covid-19.

                      And I do not think that Europe or my country didn't "want" to control the pandemic on purpose.

                      I'm not saying China didn't want to control the virus on purpose, I'm saying they wanted the virus to spread around the world on purpose. Maybe you can't imagine how evil the Chinese government is. Though I'm not sure, it's very possible that Chinese government released the virus which they won't admit of course because of the trade war with the US. Now Americans don't have enough energy to fight with China, but that won't take much time for the US to recover. I'm wondering if China will disintegrate like the Soviet Union in the future.

                      How stupid is it to actually think that China want other countries to have this virus, you know when other countries are suffering from the Covid19, China's economy is also going to be worse OK?

                      How silly you think the Chinese government is innocent! They always put the stability of their power into the first place, the economy and the lives of people are less important to them. You should know how happy they are when the number of the infected increase in other countries, it's disgusting!

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                        herbert967 last edited by

                        The government of China should be held responsible to a degree because they lied about it.

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                          yeahyeahoh last edited by

                          @herbert967:

                          The government of China should be held responsible to a degree because they lied about it.

                          And they didn't stop the flight from Wuhan to other countries immediately, that is also a reason the virus spread around the world.

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                            redzebra02 last edited by

                            China is a communist dictatorship. This fact governed their response to the outbreak of the disease, which basically amounted to initial attempts at cover-up and denial. However, you cannot expect anything else from a country where there are no check and balances, and where there is no viable political opposition. Moreover, the ensuing disruptions in Europe, North America and elsewhere have only been bad news for the Chinese export industry. With global economy in chaos, China cannot stop its economy from slowing down. And when its economy has problems, the Chinese communist party faces increased pressure. So, I don't think they plotted to have this unleashed on the world.

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                              yeahyeahoh last edited by

                              @redzebra02:

                              China is a communist dictatorship. This fact governed their response to the outbreak of the disease, which basically amounted to initial attempts at cover-up and denial. However, you cannot expect anything else from a country where there are no check and balances, and where there is no viable political opposition. Moreover, the ensuing disruptions in Europe, North America and elsewhere have only been bad news for the Chinese export industry. With global economy in chaos, China cannot stop its economy from slowing down. And when its economy has problems, the Chinese communist party faces increased pressure. So, I don't think they plotted to have this unleashed on the world.

                              If there is no trade war, you're probably right. But the fact is China was losing the battle with the US, which also will threaten to the economy of China. Then the virus spread around the world, it's just coincidence or a causal link? I think China want to punish the US government and trump, and of course, prevent trump Re-electing president by releasing the disease, they always think no trump, no trade war. They really like Hilary and Biden.

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                                pckhs2004 last edited by

                                Probably.. cause they want to be the most powerful country in the world  ;D

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                                  yeahyeahoh last edited by

                                  @pckhs2004:

                                  Probably.. cause they want to be the most powerful country in the world  ;D

                                  Finally someone agree with me! If CCP is annihilated, trump will be a legend 🙂

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                                    scratcher71 last edited by

                                    Possibly, since they keep alot of things quiet, however, I'm not really sure.

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                                      yeahyeahoh last edited by

                                      @scratcher71:

                                      Possibly, since they keep alot of things quiet, however, I'm not really sure.

                                      Nobody can be sure, but it's very possible.

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                                        pengkuang last edited by

                                        CCP should be blamed.

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                                          yeahyeahoh last edited by

                                          @pengkuang:

                                          CCP should be blamed.

                                          Of course, even not this time, they will be punished eventually, just waiting.

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                                            eobox91103 last edited by

                                            @herbert967:

                                            The government of China should be held responsible to a degree because they lied about it.

                                            In general I agree, but at a basic level it's people who lie, not large institutions.  That said, people in an autocratic government who will tow the party line to preserve their jobs and, in dire cases, their lives.  We saw this with Hitler, very likely with Xi, and definitely with Trump.

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