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    • Frederick
      Frederick last edited by

      In the military, the women always want the right to hold any office or position.. including having millions spent on them for air force training - and they want the same pay.. but when a military conflict or war breaks out.. quite a lot of them magically get pregnant making them exempt from battle.  If they can't fulfill their military obligation because of the pregnancy.. do they lose the benefits that they would have gotten if they completed their tour of duty?

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        flozen last edited by

        I can't speak to all of the points, but I did find two interesting articles that slightly broaden the theme:

        There's a lot of pregnancy in the Navy!

        http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/01/exclusive-deployed-us-navy-has-a-pregnancy-problem-and-its-getting-worse/

        …and maternity leave provisions in the Army have been expanded:

        https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/03/01/army-s-new-maternity-leave-policy-is-now-official/

        (One could ask, how to address the first?  And second, are the expanded provisions overdue – or overly generous?)


        As far as a specific connection between enlisted women, and increased pregnancy rates during wartime as an "escape clause," I'd ask to see the solid research on that, before going further.

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        • Frederick
          Frederick last edited by

          @flozen:

          I can't speak to all of the points, but I did find two interesting articles that slightly broaden the theme:

          There's a lot of pregnancy in the Navy!

          http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/01/exclusive-deployed-us-navy-has-a-pregnancy-problem-and-its-getting-worse/

          …and maternity leave provisions in the Army have been expanded:

          https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/03/01/army-s-new-maternity-leave-policy-is-now-official/

          (One could ask, how to address the first?  And second, are the expanded provisions overdue – or overly generous?)


          As far as a specific connection between enlisted women, and increased pregnancy rates during wartime as an "escape clause," I'd ask to see the solid research on that, before going further.

          When you said the word NAVY, that sparked a thought in my head.  I'm pretty sure that there has historically been a very high proportion of women in the Navy who are lesbians.  I wonder how the military handled/handles that.  I bet the rules about homosexuality in the military only apply to gay men.. and not lesbians.

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          • raphjd
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            Lesbians only became a thing with Bill Clinton's Don't Ask, Don't Tell.  Prior to that it wasn't an issue and as far as I know it wasn't a "crime" like being gay.

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            If a woman gets pregnant, she's treated like someone who broke their leg or some other serious injury that makes them unable to fulfill all of their duties.

            Oddly, if a guy admits to purposely breaking his leg to avoid duty and a girl admits to purposely getting pregnant to avoid duty, only one will get thrown out with a dishonorable discharge.    For the clueless, it ain't the one with the vag.

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