Interesting guest on Joe Rogan.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1777301113412239442
tldr; He says
Israel has killed 13,000 Hamas
messy urban warfare, since Hamas embeds with civilians like no one else
so Israel has also killed 19,000 civilians
that ratio (13:19 or about 2:3) is better, ie. less civilians, than any other country in messy urban warfare.
so Israel kinda-minimizes civilian deaths?
anyway it's not 'genocide' nor 'terrorism' (which maximize civilian deaths)
I hate the war. I hate the deaths. Just food for thought.