ino wot u mean i live in manchester uk, and most of the gay guys seem to fit into this clone of bitchiness, going gay bars, etc, and it is hard to find a gay guy who is after a bit more then that here, esp ones who wanna have a decent convo, though wild sex is good too ;D but i find to that its a very ethnic exclusive thing to cos im not white im a mix of pakistani kenyan indian and british and its hard to make friends and meet guys with a lot of gay guys here who just dont seem to be interested